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January 16, 2021, 11:06 AM #1
ampCamp amp -- a surprisingly beguiling amp
good to see the recent AS interest in DIY !!
i have just built an ampCamp amp v1.8 and thought i would chime in and share my experience here for anyone that might be interested. below is a sequence of pictures that document the build process. they are pretty much self-explanatory.
i will point out here that building the amp was extraordinarily fun and satisfying. anyone with basic tinkering skills who can diligently work through the detailed instructions can easily accomplish this. the kit chassis, PCBs and electrical components are high quality (although, next time i would upgrade the speaker binding posts and RCA inputs to something a bit more substantial).
in terms of sound quality… all i can say is that i am just floored by how good this $327 DIY kit sounds. it would be hard to overstate how much the amp exceeded my admittedly low expectations … it is a tribute to its designer. the ampCamp amp is equally as enjoyable to listen to as my SET tube amp; different but just as engaging.
for audiophiles on a budget, i would have absolutely no problem recommending this amp as at least a starting point, thereby, freeing up funds for higher level speakers.
here are just a few takeaways, what i learned, or had reinforced from this project:
> nelson pass is a genius ...and, the audio ecosystem he has built and mentored is visionary and without equal.
> simple designs well executed win -- every time.
> i now fully understand why joe has so many amps !!
> after ~9 years of listening to the same amp, it was really nice to hook this amp into my system and hear an equally good but very different sound. having a few amps and rotating them periodically can certainly add to the enjoyment of one’s system.
> all your amps — or even your only amp doesn’t have to cost as much as your lamborghini. one can get terrific sound for a relatively small investment. i would love to do blind A/B listening test of the ACA with much more expensive amps.
> i have under-appreciated solid state amplification
anyway, i hope this inspires others on to DIY projects of their own. for me, the next project is probably to build a first watt f-6 clone, a somewhat more ambitious build in that it involves an on-board power supply.viking acoustics berlin r mk2 | almarro a318b + air tight atc-5 (phono) | clearaudio concept + virtuoso v2 MM | t+a dac8 dsd + diy transport + roon rock
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January 16, 2021, 11:26 AM #2
Re: ampCamp amp -- a surprisingly beguiling amp
Awesome job and photos. Thank you for posting this. I’m sure the sounds amazing. One day I’d like to give it a try. I need some soldering practice first.
Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated. Luxman L-595aSE
NAD C 658 streamer.
First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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January 16, 2021, 11:34 AM #3
Re: ampCamp amp -- a surprisingly beguiling amp
i have done a small bit of soldering in the past, but have never soldered components to PCBs. i was a little worried that my skills were not up to the task but i just watched the video recommended for beginners and then soldered away. very easy and as you can see in the pics, i was able to get surprisingly good joints, connections, etc. ...maybe, that's why it sounds so darn good!
viking acoustics berlin r mk2 | almarro a318b + air tight atc-5 (phono) | clearaudio concept + virtuoso v2 MM | t+a dac8 dsd + diy transport + roon rock
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January 16, 2021, 12:10 PM #4
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Re: ampCamp amp -- a surprisingly beguiling amp
Do you have a link to where you bought all the parts ?
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January 16, 2021, 12:26 PM #5
Re: ampCamp amp -- a surprisingly beguiling amp
i bought the diyAudio store kit. everything you need; however, you can also buy just the PCBs + chassis and then source your own parts from the bill-of-materials.
also, if you don't have a soldering iron, i highly recommend the haiko soldering ironviking acoustics berlin r mk2 | almarro a318b + air tight atc-5 (phono) | clearaudio concept + virtuoso v2 MM | t+a dac8 dsd + diy transport + roon rock
alp-tone audio analog cables | core audio designs plyKraft 3L | hifi racks ltd podium t5-iii
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January 16, 2021, 02:00 PM #6
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Re: ampCamp amp -- a surprisingly beguiling amp
Looks like a fun project. It has been a long time since I've built any projects but I have dabbled in DIY speakers and basic amps many moons ago. This may be a fun project to tackle. The amp being 8w and my Harbeth speakers 85dB efficient, it may be enough for some late night listening fun but nothing too dynamically challenging.
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January 19, 2021, 06:34 AM #7
Re: ampCamp amp -- a surprisingly beguiling amp
Way to go @aKnight! You will have a closet full of amps in no time. The ACA was my entry to the FirstWatt class A DIY audio. The early on ACA kits were monoblocks. Mine run some efficient desktop speaker in my office at work, although I use headphones most of the time when there.
I use the M2x, in my system, with a stable of sets of input daughter cards, with 2 more daughter cards in construction.Amplification : Modwright LS300 - Atma-Sphere "Class D" monoblocks
Digital : MSB Premier DAC+Digital Director, Oppo 203, Sonos Port (W4S mod)
Analog : Technics SL1200G, Boulder 508
Speakers : Daedalus Audio Muse Studio
Headphone : BHSE + Voce
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January 19, 2021, 10:02 AM #8
Re: ampCamp amp -- a surprisingly beguiling amp
just an update for anyone following along...
after listening to the ACA in my system for a ~10 days, i swapped my SET tube amp back in for a listen... the almarro is so much more textured, rich, 3-d, detailed and a whole lot of other audiophile words. however, this in no way diminishes my enthusiasm for the ACA in terms of how enjoyable and engaging it is. there is something about its "leanness, sparseness, directness" that emphasizes other aspects of recordings that i find refreshing...
one man's different is another man's better, right?viking acoustics berlin r mk2 | almarro a318b + air tight atc-5 (phono) | clearaudio concept + virtuoso v2 MM | t+a dac8 dsd + diy transport + roon rock
alp-tone audio analog cables | core audio designs plyKraft 3L | hifi racks ltd podium t5-iii
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January 19, 2021, 11:11 AM #9
Re: ampCamp amp -- a surprisingly beguiling amp
There’s just something about tubes and especially a well done tube amp that brings magic to music. There are a lot of great solid state amps and some come really close or can be better in certain areas, but tubes rule.
Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated. Luxman L-595aSE
NAD C 658 streamer.
First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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January 19, 2021, 06:21 PM #10
Re: ampCamp amp -- a surprisingly beguiling amp
Thanks for the update, I also have the Almarro, which I swapped out during the summer with a red wine audio amp to reduce the heat. I love the red wine amps, but putting the Almarro back in service this fall was a very nice upgrade! Tubes definitely have something special going on, as Joe said.
Ron
Amplification: Sugden Signature A21SE integrated amp, LUMIN M1
Digital Source: Sonictransporter i5 Roon core, Metrum Ambre streamer, Sonnet Morpheus DAC
Analog Source: Clearaudio Concept Wood with Satisfy tonearm, nagaoka mp-200 cart, Graham Slee Reflex Gold phono pre
Speakers: Revival Audio Atalante 3, DeVore 3XL
Cabling/power: Auditorium speaker, Audience RCA, Audioquest Niagara, Shunyata, Audience PCs
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January 20, 2021, 08:53 AM #11
Re: ampCamp amp -- a surprisingly beguiling amp
viking acoustics berlin r mk2 | almarro a318b + air tight atc-5 (phono) | clearaudio concept + virtuoso v2 MM | t+a dac8 dsd + diy transport + roon rock
alp-tone audio analog cables | core audio designs plyKraft 3L | hifi racks ltd podium t5-iii
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January 20, 2021, 01:24 PM #12
Re: ampCamp amp -- a surprisingly beguiling amp
AKnyght,
Nice build! You may remember I did my ACA build last summer (July time-frame).
As nice as the stereo ACA is, it really sings when used as monoblocks. I used mine as bridged monos, and the improvement when using it in this configuration is really notable.
Your build pics look just like mine! LOL...
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January 20, 2021, 02:17 PM #13
Re: ampCamp amp -- a surprisingly beguiling amp
i think you wiring is a bit more tidy than mine!
i well remember your build thread... it was what inspired me to do this one -- so, thanks!!
after i have some more fun with this one, i am going to give it to a younger family audiophile who along with a pair of speakers. then at some point, i think i will build one of the first watt clones - probably the f6 - which looks to be decently more challenging.viking acoustics berlin r mk2 | almarro a318b + air tight atc-5 (phono) | clearaudio concept + virtuoso v2 MM | t+a dac8 dsd + diy transport + roon rock
alp-tone audio analog cables | core audio designs plyKraft 3L | hifi racks ltd podium t5-iii
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January 26, 2021, 11:58 AM #14
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Re: ampCamp amp -- a surprisingly beguiling amp
Very nice work guys. Your wiring is much neater than mine is, that's for sure. You won't be sorry if you decide to build an F6, I have put 5 amps against the F6 (including my OTL monos) and it has won every time.
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January 31, 2021, 10:36 AM #15
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