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    Re: Devialet raises $106 million

    Any names on this list jump out at you?

    "The round was led by Ginko Ventures, but also included Foxconn, Korelya Capital, Groupe Renault, Sharp Corporation, Playground Global, Naver, Roc Nation, Future French Champions, CM-CIC Investissement, and BPI France. The company noted that many of the investors were sought out not just for financial reasons, but also strategic and geographic ones."

    "With the new money, the company says it hopes it introduce its sound technology to cars, televisions, as well as Internet of Things devices. In addition, the company will continue to open smaller, immersive stores like the ones it has in Hong Kong and Singapore as well as larger flagship stores beyond the ones it currently has in Paris, London and New York City."

    Someday everyone will own Devialet.

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    Re: Devialet raises $106 million

    It will be interesting to watch how Devialet develops over the next few years. I hope its not the new "Bose", with how they seem to want to focus on marketing and having their own stores etc.
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    Re: Devialet raises $106 million

    Prof, I can only agree. This is waaaay too much financing for the size of the segment they are in. They are trying to do an "Apple", but that model works for a more disposable kind of budget (in the 100s of $$). When you get into the thousands and tens of thousands, the potential market shrinks (the inverse of) exponentially!

    Add to that real competition that exists in that space ( we all know the names: Dartzeel/Goldmund/MicroMega for cheaper, Kii audio, Lumin, Active Kefs, Spatial, etc) I cant see where the big return on investment will come from! The space is limited.

    Granted their stuff looks good and is slick/sleek and has competitive SQ, but to me they are pretty maxxed out already. Devialet is on the expensive side for what you get....people will pay only so much for WAF. LoL
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    Re: Devialet raises $106 million

    I'm biting my tongue.
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    Re: Devialet raises $106 million

    devialet imo has some potential to fill the marketspace b&o is losing.
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    Re: Devialet raises $106 million

    Yes, perhaps, but enuff to guarantee a decent return on $106, on top of the more than €50m invested already?
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    Re: Devialet raises $106 million

    Quote Originally Posted by wisnon View Post
    Yes, perhaps, but enuff to gurantee a decent return on $106, on top of the more than €50m invested already?

    +1 ... I was wondering about the same thing.
    How much do you think is the cost of money on a deal like this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil View Post
    +1 ... I was wondering about the same thing.
    How much do you think is the cost of money on a deal like this?
    These guys are equity investors not providing credit so the cost of equity is measured by how much of the company they gave up for this round and in terms of a corollary to an interest rate on debt financing, Ke (cost of equity) in finance is typically measured using CAPM model [Ke=Rf + B * (Rm -Rf)].

    B (beta) hard to measure since it's private but given risk of business I would say 2 (I.e., 2X as volatile as market(

    Rf = 2.3% on 10-yr here in US

    Rm - Rf (also known as equity risk premium) typically measured over long period and estimates range in the 4-7%

    Let's use midpoint of 5.5%

    So plugging in various estimates you get 13.3% which for a company like Devialet with it's risk profile I would say is a bit on the low side.

    If I were discounting the cash flows accruing back to equity investors in a deal like this, probably use at least 15% to compensate for risk profile

    Not sure if that helps you but that's how investors look at cost of equity
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    Re: Devialet raises $106 million

    Quote Originally Posted by wisnon View Post
    Prof, I can only agree. This is waaaay too much financing for the size of the segment they are in. They are trying to do an "Apple", but that model works for a more disposable kind of budget (in the 100s of $$). When you get into the thousands and tens of thousands, the potential market shrinks (the inverse of) exponentially!

    Add to that real competition that exists in that space ( we all know the names: Dartzeel/Goldmund/MicroMega for cheaper, Kii audio, Lumin, Active Kefs, Spatial, etc) I cant see where the big return on investment will come from! The space is limited.

    Granted their stuff looks good and is slick/sleek and has competitive SQ, but to me they are pretty maxxed out already. Devialet is on the expensive side for what you get....people will pay only so much for WAF. LoL
    Well looks like they are going to try to get into more consumer-oriented devices if they are going after car stereo systems, IoTs, and cheaper consumer audio devices. That would expand addressable market way beyond our niche high-end audio space. So looks like they are going to take the technology in high end and roll it into more consumer-oriented mass market products. That's what attracts $106 mill in equity and why you have big consumer players like Foxconn (contract manufacturer for Apple) and others like Sharp putting money in here.
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    Re: Devialet raises $106 million

    Chris...

    That is the normal formula for an established business, no?
    I see this more as a late stage venture cap, given that the high end audi segment is no where big enough to support the return requirements they would demand for this new tranche of financing.

    Recall they got 40m euros last round and started with like 10m euros in seed funding.

    There must be a B-Plan with breakout scenarios into new, bigger market potential segments. Dunno...autos, home cinema, pro audio, computers, mobile audio....you name it. However their prices are on the high side right now and the tech is not that different/ superior...so I dont yet see why the investor hubris. Perhaps they have revolutionary tech that only the investors saw in DD?

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    Re: Devialet raises $106 million

    In summary...I dont see any indication if different tech that can steal share left right and center for these lower consumer prices. Mass market pays in the 100s not thousands or 10s of thousands. Besides Apples major advantage is owni g and controlling their ecosystem. Interesting times ahead....pass the popcorn

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    Re: Devialet raises $106 million

    Quote Originally Posted by wisnon View Post
    In summary...I dont see any indication if different tech that can steal share left right and center for these lower consumer prices. Mass market pays in the 100s not thousands or 10s of thousands. Besides Apples major advantage is owni g and controlling their ecosystem. Interesting times ahead....pass the popcorn
    After an initial buzz, I never read anything more about select Apple stores selling Phantom speakers. Has anyone seen Phantoms in their local store? I thought I read a recent blurb about their retail director (Angela Ahrendts) leaving but now I can't find it. That would be huge news so I probably remembered wrong and someone else is leaving Apple. She is the one who brought Phantoms to the stores.

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    Re: Devialet raises $106 million

    Obviously getting into car manufacturers audio they will sell loads of equipment. But, for car manufacturers to want to put your product in their car then the consumer must have some name recognition. And other than audiophiles, nobody has ever heard of Deviolet. And audiophiles is not a big enough group.

    They are going to have to market the name just like Bose did. And to do that they need a system under a grand and sell at Best Buy.
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    Re: Devialet raises $106 million

    As far as return of investment - I would say that we would be talking about 30% or higher. This is at best a high risk venture.

    Not that they can return that, but to get equity investors there has to be a way to dangle that return out to them.

    Right now mezz investors (and they are much more secure than equity investors) are demanding returns in the teens.
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    Re: Devialet raises $106 million

    Quote Originally Posted by the professor View Post
    Obviously getting into car manufacturers audio they will sell loads of equipment. But, for car manufacturers to want to put your product in their car then the consumer must have some name recognition. And other than audiophiles, nobody has ever heard of Deviolet. And audiophiles is not a big enough group.

    They are going to have to market the name just like Bose did. And to do that they need a system under a grand and sell at Best Buy.
    That will create challenges for dealers. I'm already getting too many calls asking me to compare "Bose to Phantom" and "Sonos to Phantom." I especially love the "uhhh....is that thing good for a boat?"


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    Re: Devialet raises $106 million

    Quote Originally Posted by the professor View Post
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    They are going to have to market the name just like Bose did. And to do that they need a system under a grand and sell at Best Buy.
    Then audiophiles won't buy. I am not sure it is possible to swim in two ponds at the same time.

    One option might be a second brand name. e.g. Scion/Toyota/ Lexus.

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    That will create challenges for dealers. I'm already getting too many calls asking me to compare "Bose to Phantom" and "Sonos to Phantom." I especially love the "uhhh....is that thing good for a boat?"


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    In Germany they are cutting at least certain dealers out of the Phantom distribution, in order to sell direct online.

    To me that sounds an awful lot like aiming for the mass market.


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    Re: Devialet raises $106 million

    Quote Originally Posted by wisnon View Post
    Chris...

    That is the normal formula for an established business, no?
    I see this more as a late stage venture cap, given that the high end audi segment is no where big enough to support the return requirements they would demand for this new tranche of financing.

    Recall they got 40m euros last round and started with like 10m euros in seed funding.

    There must be a B-Plan with breakout scenarios into new, bigger market potential segments. Dunno...autos, home cinema, pro audio, computers, mobile audio....you name it. However their prices are on the high side right now and the tech is not that different/ superior...so I dont yet see why the investor hubris. Perhaps they have revolutionary tech that only the investors saw in DD?
    Yes...that's what I meant in my comment that they must be seeking to expand beyond the niche high-end audio market to be able to "sell" investors on their prospects. There's no way you can raise $106 million (let alone $20 million) if you are going to stay focused in the high-end audio market. I also don't think players like Foxconn and Sharp would come in on the investment if there isn't a mass-market play being made here. And so, if you are going to go mass market into portable audio, the audio in your car, internet of things type products, etc...than the price points they will be charging will also have to come down. $2K+ for the Phantom for what most non-audiophiles will view as a wireless speaker is way too expensive when most of the competing products are in the $50-$300 range (never mind the difference in quality of sound which you could argue the non-audiophile will have a harder time appreciating). So the question is what is the mass-market play they will be going after.

    I agree with you, I think the investors here are taking a flyer. Now it looks like there are 11 or 12 investors in this consortium and assuming they all put an equal amount in (not likely but just for sake of assumption) that means less than $10 million per investor. For all these players this is an insignificant amount. Having said that though, no matter how much they put in, even if it was $1 million only, it's not like anyone is in the business of investing $1 million without caring whether they are going to get a return on their money and more importantly whether they are going to get their money back at all. So I am sure they have done their diligence and we are not privy to what Devialet has put in front of them as the opportunity. So I am skeptical but we are flying blind here as there is not much info from the press release.
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    Re: Devialet raises $106 million

    Quote Originally Posted by the professor View Post
    As far as return of investment - I would say that we would be talking about 30% or higher. This is at best a high risk venture.

    Not that they can return that, but to get equity investors there has to be a way to dangle that return out to them.

    Right now mezz investors (and they are much more secure than equity investors) are demanding returns in the teens.
    Totally agree. Typically VCs have 30%+ IRR thresh holds to justify investing in early stage businesses (which are all high risk by definition). Devialet has a history of operating in the high-end audio segment with interesting technology. The question is what have they "sold" investors on here in terms of their entry into the "mass market." What is untested and hence very risky is Devialet's product strategy in the mass market and whether they will know how to operate in that very different segment (distribution channels, OEM relationships, pricing, marketing, scaling of operations, etc...) all very different and hence very risky for these investors to take on.
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    Re: Devialet raises $106 million

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuoppis View Post
    In Germany they are cutting at least certain dealers out of the Phantom distribution, in order to sell direct online.

    To me that sounds an awful lot like aiming for the mass market.


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    Re: Devialet raises $106 million

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    [...] " I especially love the "uhhh....is that thing good for a boat?"

    Apparently they are. Here in Singapore Devialet speakers have been installed on boats by adventurous owners. I believe they are sealed but doubt they are IP rated.
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    Re: Devialet raises $106 million

    Quote Originally Posted by kiwi_1282001 View Post
    Apparently they are. Here in Singapore Devialet speakers have been installed on boats by adventurous owners. I believe they are sealed but doubt they are IP rated.
    The point I was trying to make is that the type of customer who's at a minimum curious about the Phantom, is more than likely not going to pony up for the Phantom. They can't bridge the gap between the $300 Bose and the $2000 Phantom. The people that can afford the Phantom, will want one for a second system, kitchen, etc.
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    Norman and I have talked off line and it will be indeed interesting to see what kind of competition the Phantom faces over the next year or two.
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    They are also used for background music at Harrods in London, scattered around the store. I kind of like the design, fits the environment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    The people that can afford the Phantom, will want one for a second system, kitchen, etc.
    Living room system for background music with guests. Good WAF.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuoppis View Post
    Living room system for background music with guests. Good WAF.


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    My wife likes our Phantom. She can quickly switch over to it from her phone and be listening to her playlist from Tidal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuoppis View Post
    Living room system for background music with guests. Good WAF.


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    True, an expensive lifestyle play for the more well heeled...or as furniture for the right decor. At 3K to $5K a pair, it is not mass market.

    Major worry for the will be the Wireless active KEF LS50 at $2200 a pair...throw on a great Magellan sub for $800 and for $3K, you have something with genuine audiophile pretentions for a bit more than half of what the Gold Phantom sells for. http://tbisound.com/dsp_products_subwmagvisu.asp


    I though that the Phantoms would be a shoe in for nightclubs, given that you can wirelessly connect up to 32 of them in the Dialog network. Silver can do max 105db (EU legal maximum) and Gold can do 108db. They would be cheaper than a Pro setup as the bulk pricing and DIYsetup ability should cut the cost in 2 or 3. HOWEVER in speaking with 2 pro-audio gurus from 2 famous companies you would all know, they said the Wireless would not be commercially stable enuff and wired would get messy (costs savings severely eaten into) and the other thing is the actual sound pressure. In a club setting they would definitely NOT pressurize the salons enuff, no matter what the dbs are in the specs. I have to defer to 2 independent voices of reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    My wife likes our Phantom. She can quickly switch over to it from her phone and be listening to her playlist from Tidal.

    I sell a few to people wanting them for their office.
    I can easily see them in a chic mod decor Manhatten penthouse, for example.
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    Yes, that's the Harrods type of setting.

    In my case my wife asked me not to stack rectangular metal boxes in the living room and to get something very modern. Fits the bill.


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    Like the Kefs, but I guess those would have been too traditional shape for the missus.


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    If you can, then get the Gold. SQ is up a notch over the Siver.
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    Re: Devialet raises $106 million

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    The point I was trying to make is that the type of customer who's at a minimum curious about the Phantom, is more than likely not going to pony up for the Phantom. They can't bridge the gap between the $300 Bose and the $2000 Phantom. The people that can afford the Phantom, will want one for a second system, kitchen, etc.



    Yes, and that is precisely the reason why Devialet has raised the money. They essentially want to do four things:


    1. Innovate. They want to take technology we are seeing in Phantom, miniaturise and de-cost it without impacting sound quality and market the resulting product(s) with a price tag which is more palatable for the common man.


    2. Double their R&D team from current 60 headcount to around 120 by mid-2017 to drive innovation and product development.


    3. Get into new markets – by delivering higher quality sound for consumer devices such as televisions, mobile phones, laptops and car audio.


    4. Significantly expand their retail presence with their own Devialet branded retail storefronts
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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwi_1282001 View Post
    Yes, and that is precisely the reason why Devialet has raised the money. They essentially want to do four things:


    1. Innovate. They want to take technology we are seeing in Phantom, miniaturise and de-cost it without impacting sound quality and market the resulting product(s) with a price tag which is more palatable for the common man.


    2. Double their R&D team from current 60 headcount to around 120 by mid-2017 to drive innovation and product development.


    3. Get into new markets – by delivering higher quality sound for consumer devices such as televisions, mobile phones, laptops and car audio.


    4. Significantly expand their retail presence with their own Devialet branded retail storefronts
    Four years later, has any of this come to pass?
    What's up with Devialet?
    They continue upgrading their 'audiophile' integrateds.

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    Re: Devialet raises $106 million

    Devialet's business has been growing in their Phantom line, and through some partnerships.
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