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    Re: Devialet Phantom Gold

    Quote Originally Posted by bzr View Post
    Edited, shouldn't have bothered Jerry in his thread.
    Not at all, hifi is such a controversial hobby, its always nice to read different perspective and views.

    Like "Kuoppis" put it, "Potato vs Potahto".

    I have went thru some amplifiers and speakers chase and know what, I was still chasing back then. Today, I forced myself to a halt by asking myself - what sounded best to me ... and would I be moved by remarks, opinions and reviews. If the answer is yes, then I should not even buy anything at all cause I would move again. Seriously, there will always be something better coming along but is that really better? Take WP for example, 8 changes and now another further 2 in the guise of Sasha. And I'll bet there would be a III coming. Does that mean the WP7 I owned years back is really that much inferior or had I matched that with the wrong amps back then, or source ... where today it is still good? Similarly, I owned the Avantgarde Duo Mezzo G2, at that time, the greatest and newest, and today? The XD supersedes. Tomorrow, probably another new creation ....

    In the end, I come to understand the basic Economic principle, Demand has no end, Supply does. And I do have a bottom line to spend and hence, I have to put a stop to this. Plus retirement is coming ... and there are still many other things in life that I would need to support after that.

    To me, as long as there's a smile in the family when I goes back home, sit on the same table and have a meaningful meal and conversation with my family, that IS HiFi at its best. The rest? Musical enjoyment with a pinch of salt. Nick pick if I want, then move on. Not at this age now. Not having gone thru 2 big scare in life that left me wondering if my priorities in spending time and money was in the right perspective.

    Sorry for being philosophical. I do enjoy all the opinions and controversial remarks. If Gold is not good, its ok, cause I already bought them and I have liked them enough to do so. Just enjoy and let not the words be a sting to end up selling them.

    No worries guys, I am ok with any words, scathing or otherwise. Life is about peace, friendship and love. For family, friends and you guys (who are also friends). I met Jim when he came over here a few years back (or more than a few years back), Howie, where for the last couple of years, we do meet up with each other, here or in HK when I often drop by and know what? Its all happy memories. I met Rick Mak too when he was here in September this year where he helped me understand if the Raidho D-3.1 was good enough for my small abode. And in due course, realised its the talking, chatting over meals and drinks that brought the greatest of happiness. I would sure wish you guys would come over and I will always be glad to host you. HiFi? Yes, we can debate, but in the end, its all about the chats and discussions that brings out the best of the hobby.

    Well, attached a picture taken when Rick was over here. I am the shortest guy on the right. Rick is on the left and in the centre, my dealer cum friend Desmond. That was one happy memory and so shall it be, always. Now I am looking forward to you guys coming over. That would be the best HiFi experience for me.

    Cheers
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    Devialet Phantom Gold

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Seh View Post
    Not at all, hifi is such a controversial hobby, its always nice to read different perspective and views.

    Like "Kuoppis" put it, "Potato vs Potahto".

    I have went thru some amplifiers and speakers chase and know what, I was still chasing back then. Today, I forced myself to a halt by asking myself - what sounded best to me ... and would I be moved by remarks, opinions and reviews. If the answer is yes, then I should not even buy anything at all cause I would move again. Seriously;y, there is always something better coming along but is that really better? Take WP for example, 8 changes and now another further 2 in the guise of Sasha. And I'll bet there would be a III coming. Does that mean the WP7 I owned years back is really that much inferior or had I matched that with the wrong amps back then, or source ...? Similarly, I owned the Avant-garde Mezzo G2, at that time, the greatest and newest, and today? The XD supersedes.

    In the end, I come to the basic Economic principle, Demand had no end, Supply does. And I do have a bottom line to spend and hence, I have to put a stop to this. Plus retirement is coming ... and there are still many other things in life that I would need to support after that.

    To me, as long as there's a smile in the family when I goes back home, sit on the same table and have a meaningful meal and conversation with my family, that IS HiFi at its best. The rest? Musical enjoyment with a pinch of salt. Nick pick if I want, then moved on knowing I should not. Not at this age now. Not having gone thru 2 big scare in life that left me wondering id my priorities in spending time and money was in the right perspective.

    Sorry for being philosophical. I do enjoy all the opinions and controversial remarks. If Gold is not good, its ok, cause I already bought them and I have liked them enough to do so. Just enjoy and let not the words be a sting to end up selling them.

    No worries guys, I am ok with any words, scathing or otherwise. Life is about peace, friendship and love. For family, friends and you guys (who are also friends). All, I met Jim when he came over here a few years back (or more than a few years back), Howie, where for the last couple of years, we do meet up with each other, here or in HK when I often drop by and know what? I met Rick Mak too when he was here in September where he helped me understand if radio D-3.1 was good enough for my small abode. And in due course, its about talking, chatting over meals and drinks that brought the greatest of happiness. I would sure wish you guys would come over and I will always be glad to host you.

    Well, I am the shortest guy on the right. Rick is on the left and in the centre, my dealer cum friend Desmond. That was one happy memory and so shall it be, always.

    Cheers
    Jerry, I really like your response, very well said. There is the right thing at the right time in the right place. And this is also how my comments were meant. Different systems serve different purposes.

    My task from my wife when buying the Devialet was a) not to stack the living room full of some kind of boxes, b) come up with something really modern and interesting. I could not think of a thing that would fulfill the description better than the Phantom - and for that I love it. But of course it is different from your previous G2s, which again are ideal in another situation.

    And thank you very much for making the point about diversity. IMHO, this is the beauty in this kind of forum. At the days end, as we all know, the only relevant system is the one in your home, in our acoustics, for your purposes, for your ears. Anything else is noise.


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    Re: Devialet Phantom Gold

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuoppis View Post
    I do have Silver, but have heard the Gold. While there are improvements in some aspects, I did not find the difference to really change the spatial experience.

    That said, this might very well be due to personal preferences. I would personally rather not build a high-end system around Devialet amplification, also independent of device color. I find the sound too dry and lifeless - again a purely subjective view.

    Adding a bit here: My personal view and use should not mean by any means they would not be absolutely magnificent to somebody else's ears or a different use. You like potato and I like potahto, as simple as that.

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    We are not the far apart. I dont expect to find lushness in Devialet streaming tidal and I don't like dry too much either (recall I have a tube Dac...no TT, only digital). That said the bass was my biggest complaint and I think the Gold is a good deal better than Silver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wisnon View Post
    We are not the far apart. I dont expect to find lushness in Devialet streaming tidal and I don't like dry too much either (recall I have a tube Dac...no TT, only digital). That said the bass was my biggest complaint and I think the Gold is a good deal better than Silver.
    Sums it up pretty nicely I think...


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    Devialet Phantom Gold

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Seh View Post
    Not at all, hifi is such a controversial hobby, its always nice to read different perspective and views.

    Like "Kuoppis" put it, "Potato vs Potahto".

    I have went thru some amplifiers and speakers chase and know what, I was still chasing back then. Today, I forced myself to a halt by asking myself - what sounded best to me ... and would I be moved by remarks, opinions and reviews. If the answer is yes, then I should not even buy anything at all cause I would move again. Seriously, there will always be something better coming along but is that really better? Take WP for example, 8 changes and now another further 2 in the guise of Sasha. And I'll bet there would be a III coming. Does that mean the WP7 I owned years back is really that much inferior or had I matched that with the wrong amps back then, or source ... where today it is still good? Similarly, I owned the Avantgarde Duo Mezzo G2, at that time, the greatest and newest, and today? The XD supersedes. Tomorrow, probably another new creation ....

    In the end, I come to understand the basic Economic principle, Demand has no end, Supply does. And I do have a bottom line to spend and hence, I have to put a stop to this. Plus retirement is coming ... and there are still many other things in life that I would need to support after that.

    To me, as long as there's a smile in the family when I goes back home, sit on the same table and have a meaningful meal and conversation with my family, that IS HiFi at its best. The rest? Musical enjoyment with a pinch of salt. Nick pick if I want, then move on. Not at this age now. Not having gone thru 2 big scare in life that left me wondering if my priorities in spending time and money was in the right perspective.

    Sorry for being philosophical. I do enjoy all the opinions and controversial remarks. If Gold is not good, its ok, cause I already bought them and I have liked them enough to do so. Just enjoy and let not the words be a sting to end up selling them.

    No worries guys, I am ok with any words, scathing or otherwise. Life is about peace, friendship and love. For family, friends and you guys (who are also friends). I met Jim when he came over here a few years back (or more than a few years back), Howie, where for the last couple of years, we do meet up with each other, here or in HK when I often drop by and know what? Its all happy memories. I met Rick Mak too when he was here in September this year where he helped me understand if the Raidho D-3.1 was good enough for my small abode. And in due course, realised its the talking, chatting over meals and drinks that brought the greatest of happiness. I would sure wish you guys would come over and I will always be glad to host you. HiFi? Yes, we can debate, but in the end, its all about the chats and discussions that brings out the best of the hobby.

    Well, attached a picture taken when Rick was over here. I am the shortest guy on the right. Rick is on the left and in the centre, my dealer cum friend Desmond. That was one happy memory and so shall it be, always. Now I am looking forward to you guys coming over. That would be the best HiFi experience for me.

    Cheers
    This should be a stickie. Two thumbs up, Jerry.

 

 
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