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April 21, 2017, 06:13 AM #1
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New Progression Stereo
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The Progression mono are the best match I heard for the Magico S5 mkII, so this one should be very nice
I reveived yesterday a Momentum Stereo (200w version) for a home demo and look forward to have some time with itSystem: Magico S1 MkII, DCS Puccini Player & Clock, Aurender N100C, SME Mod 15, SME IV, Lyra Etna, Nagra VPS
Headfi: Violectric HPA V281, Sony Z1R, Kimber Axios Cu
Cables: Transparent Premium USB, Gen5 Reference 75 Ohm, Ultra interconnects, phono and speaker cables
Power: Shunyata EU7, Alpha NR, Furutech Powerflux-18E
Accessories: Finite Elemente 600 APS, several Cerabases, Ceraballs and Cerapucs
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April 21, 2017, 12:29 PM #2
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Re: New Progression Stereo
Cool! I've been living with the Progression Monos for a while, and it's uncanny how they grip the YGs. If your room is big and/or you like listening LOUD, those are simply unreal! Besides, it's fun to watch the dials reach 400W, 500W during the loud/fast transients
I'm curious how you're going to find the Momentum Stereo compared to the GS150! We just put the order in for one of those (GS150), as the ARC REF 75SE coped with the YGs just fine, so I expect the GS150 to be even better! But the Momentum might be something else entirely
Enjoy!
cheers,
Alex
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January 22, 2018, 06:25 AM #3
Re: New Progression Stereo
Source: Technics SP10mk3 - Thales Simplicity II, TW Raven AC-3 - Graham Phantom, SME 3012-R, Exclusive P3,,Linn LP12 - Naim ARO
Cartridges: Lyra Atlas Lambda SL, Lyra Etna SL, Lyra Delos, Dynavector XV-1s,Technics EPC100mk4, Ortofon A90, GM Royal, GM Classic, Denon ESC'd 103R, DL-S1, Audio Technica AT25, OC9II, Linn ESC'd Troika
Phono Stage: Phasemation EA-1200, Accuphase C-37,TW Acustik phono
EQ: DEQX HDP-4
Preamp: D'Agostino HD, conrad johnson GAT,
Amps: conrad johnson teflon premier 8a's, D'Agostino Momentum S250
Speakers: Wilson Maxx3
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January 22, 2018, 08:51 AM #4
Re: New Progression Stereo
Looking forward to read your impressions. The Momentum Integrated and Momentum Stereo are two best amps I've tried with my old S5 mk 2.
A friend of mine drives his M3 with a pair of the mighty Momentum M400 monos. Superb combination.Adam
Speakers: Magico M3
Amp: Dagostino Momentum Stereo
Digital: Lampi Horizon + Lampi DSD Komputer
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January 22, 2018, 09:33 AM #5
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Re: New Progression Stereo
Elberoth, would you please compare the sound of the Dag Stereo, MSB 202 and Vitus SM-11 on your old S5 mk2?
Thank you!
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January 22, 2018, 09:27 PM #6
Re: New Progression Stereo
The progression is a lovely looking amp in person. Unlike the Momentum, better looking in black imo. I think the huge size has most to do with it as the black makes it look a little sleaker. too heavy for one person to move.
Its done a few hundred at the shop, but will give it a couple more days of constant CD playing before I make any comments on sound.
Compared to the Momentum, it has different speaker terminals which you can hand tighten which is pretty good and different XLR inputs of which the Momentum seem sturdier.
One thing I will say, it does not like RCA cables with adaptors and buzzes like a cheap hooker. Every other balanced amps I have had here had no noise issues with rca cables - Pass, Krell, Gryphon, Goldmund, Mark Levinson, my own Momentum Stereo.
It is silent with balanced cables.
Source: Technics SP10mk3 - Thales Simplicity II, TW Raven AC-3 - Graham Phantom, SME 3012-R, Exclusive P3,,Linn LP12 - Naim ARO
Cartridges: Lyra Atlas Lambda SL, Lyra Etna SL, Lyra Delos, Dynavector XV-1s,Technics EPC100mk4, Ortofon A90, GM Royal, GM Classic, Denon ESC'd 103R, DL-S1, Audio Technica AT25, OC9II, Linn ESC'd Troika
Phono Stage: Phasemation EA-1200, Accuphase C-37,TW Acustik phono
EQ: DEQX HDP-4
Preamp: D'Agostino HD, conrad johnson GAT,
Amps: conrad johnson teflon premier 8a's, D'Agostino Momentum S250
Speakers: Wilson Maxx3
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January 23, 2018, 03:48 AM #7
Re: New Progression Stereo
I have had my Progression monoblocks since December. My advice is to give the amp a few more hours before evaluating them fully. I have also discovered that once they are settled in, the amp is extremely smooth and powerful and also revealing of the upstream equipment. I have yet to exceed 300-400 watts on the meters. I need to play them louder. Looking forward to your opinion.Source component-Esoteric K-01X
Preamp-Audio Research Reference 10
Amplifier- D'Agostino Progression monoblocks
Speakers-Wilson Audio Maxx 3
Isolation stand-HRS SXR
Cables-Transparent Reference speaker and Super I/C's.
Power conditioning-Transparent Power Isolator and Transparent power cords
Room treatment-Vicoustics
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January 23, 2018, 04:50 AM #8
Re: New Progression Stereo
“Life’s too short to listen to bad audio.”
Big rig: Brinkmann Taurus DD TT + 12.1 arm + Lyra Etna Lambda SL MC + HRS M3X2/ Cardas Clear Beyond phono/ Stillpoints LPI/ Brinkmann Edison mk2 phono + RöNT II Tube PS/ Synology NAS with Roon + HD Plex linear PSU + Shunyata HD/ AQ Vodka RJ45 + Aqvox Network Switch SE + AQ Diamond RJ45 into DAC/ Brinkmann Nyquist mk2/ Audionet Humboldt/ Cardas Clear Beyond ICs/ Kharma DB9-S 1.1 LS/ Inakustik Reference LS 4004 AIR/ Audioquest Niagara 5000/ Shunyata Alpha power (HC, Analogue, Digital)/ Finite Elemente Pagode Rack/ Stillpoints Ultra SS/ Vicoustic panels + Stillpoints Aperture II.
Small rig: Naim UnitiServe/ Curious USB/ Tidal/ Linn Klimax DS3/ Shunyata Power cable/ Pass Labs INT-60/ Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II/ HiD Diamond 8/ Harbeth 30.2 40th Anniversary/ Shunyata Venom EU7 & Venom 3 HD.
HP rig: MacBookAir/ Tidal/ Auralic Gemini 2000/ Sbooster LPSU/ Audeze LCD-2 Classic + WyWires Red/ Shunyata HD/ Shunyata Hydra 2/ Shunyata Venom.
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January 23, 2018, 04:52 AM #9
New Progression Stereo
“Life’s too short to listen to bad audio.”
Big rig: Brinkmann Taurus DD TT + 12.1 arm + Lyra Etna Lambda SL MC + HRS M3X2/ Cardas Clear Beyond phono/ Stillpoints LPI/ Brinkmann Edison mk2 phono + RöNT II Tube PS/ Synology NAS with Roon + HD Plex linear PSU + Shunyata HD/ AQ Vodka RJ45 + Aqvox Network Switch SE + AQ Diamond RJ45 into DAC/ Brinkmann Nyquist mk2/ Audionet Humboldt/ Cardas Clear Beyond ICs/ Kharma DB9-S 1.1 LS/ Inakustik Reference LS 4004 AIR/ Audioquest Niagara 5000/ Shunyata Alpha power (HC, Analogue, Digital)/ Finite Elemente Pagode Rack/ Stillpoints Ultra SS/ Vicoustic panels + Stillpoints Aperture II.
Small rig: Naim UnitiServe/ Curious USB/ Tidal/ Linn Klimax DS3/ Shunyata Power cable/ Pass Labs INT-60/ Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II/ HiD Diamond 8/ Harbeth 30.2 40th Anniversary/ Shunyata Venom EU7 & Venom 3 HD.
HP rig: MacBookAir/ Tidal/ Auralic Gemini 2000/ Sbooster LPSU/ Audeze LCD-2 Classic + WyWires Red/ Shunyata HD/ Shunyata Hydra 2/ Shunyata Venom.
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April 22, 2019, 07:43 AM #10
Re: New Progression Stereo
I tried out at home for the last 6 days another Progression Stereo amp. This time it was silent when I connected my Nordost Tyr rca ic. not sure what happened first time around, but this was a big relief.
The Progression Stereo is very quiet, barely gets hot even when driving the system LOUD - unlike the Momentum Stereo which is always hot and gets hotter. Sounds wise it's very smooth, has great bass control and seems to be coasting at most volumes - It's really pleasant to listen to, but I felt like I was missing something - played the amp on repeat for a few days - no real change in sound.
In my system it seemed to be just a little too smooth up top and it struggled to make some of my exciting music, well exciting - Playing Prince is always an adventure as his music changes speed and tempo consistently and it seems that the Progression could not quite keep up with the speed of the music. Playing jazz or blues the Progression was very capable and gave a nice large sound stage and thoroughly enjoyable.
Plugging back the warmed up Momentum S200 instantly brought improvements in the upper frequencies and upper mid's with better extension, better attack, more detail with a tube like depth. Bass perhaps did not go as deep and as controlled, but it did seem faster, however that may have been the openness of the upper frequencies more than the bass that gave that impression.
Overall I am impressed with the progression Stereo and if you love the Dag sound but can't stretch to the Momentum series, it will give you great sound. The reality in this case is the higher priced item does give better performance.
for me, I am finally going to upgrade to the S250 in July when I go on holidays, so hopefully will not miss any listening time while its away. Yes, several S250 users have said the upgrade is a no brainer, but it's quite expensive to do it from Sydney as the amp has to be shipped to the USA and back again and the value of the AU peso to US$ is crap.
Bill from D'Agostino said the S250 upgrade includes greater power and audio performance improvements, but also has a bias stabilization circuit enhancement that can help with over heating. He did recommend I upgrade to a M400 and buy another M400 as the best upgrade - Unfortunately budget will not allow for that.
cheersSource: Technics SP10mk3 - Thales Simplicity II, TW Raven AC-3 - Graham Phantom, SME 3012-R, Exclusive P3,,Linn LP12 - Naim ARO
Cartridges: Lyra Atlas Lambda SL, Lyra Etna SL, Lyra Delos, Dynavector XV-1s,Technics EPC100mk4, Ortofon A90, GM Royal, GM Classic, Denon ESC'd 103R, DL-S1, Audio Technica AT25, OC9II, Linn ESC'd Troika
Phono Stage: Phasemation EA-1200, Accuphase C-37,TW Acustik phono
EQ: DEQX HDP-4
Preamp: D'Agostino HD, conrad johnson GAT,
Amps: conrad johnson teflon premier 8a's, D'Agostino Momentum S250
Speakers: Wilson Maxx3
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April 22, 2019, 08:40 AM #11
Re: New Progression Stereo
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Mike
Amplification: MBL 6010D, MBL 9008A Monos
Analog: Kuzma R, Kuzma 4Point (11”), MSL Ultra Eminent EX
Phono Pre: Pass XP-27
Digital: Esoteric N01XD Esoteric K05
Speakers: MBL 101E MKII
Subwoofers: REL Carbon Specials
Conditioner: Shunyata Triton 3
Power Cables: Shunyata Sigma 1 & 2, Alpha 2, Delta and Venom
ICs and SCs: Wireworld Platinum 8
Rack: Artesania Exoteryc
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April 22, 2019, 09:09 AM #12
Re: New Progression Stereo
Source: Technics SP10mk3 - Thales Simplicity II, TW Raven AC-3 - Graham Phantom, SME 3012-R, Exclusive P3,,Linn LP12 - Naim ARO
Cartridges: Lyra Atlas Lambda SL, Lyra Etna SL, Lyra Delos, Dynavector XV-1s,Technics EPC100mk4, Ortofon A90, GM Royal, GM Classic, Denon ESC'd 103R, DL-S1, Audio Technica AT25, OC9II, Linn ESC'd Troika
Phono Stage: Phasemation EA-1200, Accuphase C-37,TW Acustik phono
EQ: DEQX HDP-4
Preamp: D'Agostino HD, conrad johnson GAT,
Amps: conrad johnson teflon premier 8a's, D'Agostino Momentum S250
Speakers: Wilson Maxx3
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April 22, 2019, 12:43 PM #13
Re: New Progression Stereo
“Life’s too short to listen to bad audio.”
Big rig: Brinkmann Taurus DD TT + 12.1 arm + Lyra Etna Lambda SL MC + HRS M3X2/ Cardas Clear Beyond phono/ Stillpoints LPI/ Brinkmann Edison mk2 phono + RöNT II Tube PS/ Synology NAS with Roon + HD Plex linear PSU + Shunyata HD/ AQ Vodka RJ45 + Aqvox Network Switch SE + AQ Diamond RJ45 into DAC/ Brinkmann Nyquist mk2/ Audionet Humboldt/ Cardas Clear Beyond ICs/ Kharma DB9-S 1.1 LS/ Inakustik Reference LS 4004 AIR/ Audioquest Niagara 5000/ Shunyata Alpha power (HC, Analogue, Digital)/ Finite Elemente Pagode Rack/ Stillpoints Ultra SS/ Vicoustic panels + Stillpoints Aperture II.
Small rig: Naim UnitiServe/ Curious USB/ Tidal/ Linn Klimax DS3/ Shunyata Power cable/ Pass Labs INT-60/ Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II/ HiD Diamond 8/ Harbeth 30.2 40th Anniversary/ Shunyata Venom EU7 & Venom 3 HD.
HP rig: MacBookAir/ Tidal/ Auralic Gemini 2000/ Sbooster LPSU/ Audeze LCD-2 Classic + WyWires Red/ Shunyata HD/ Shunyata Hydra 2/ Shunyata Venom.
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April 22, 2019, 01:27 PM #14
Re: New Progression Stereo
$7,500 plus shipping.
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Mike
Amplification: MBL 6010D, MBL 9008A Monos
Analog: Kuzma R, Kuzma 4Point (11”), MSL Ultra Eminent EX
Phono Pre: Pass XP-27
Digital: Esoteric N01XD Esoteric K05
Speakers: MBL 101E MKII
Subwoofers: REL Carbon Specials
Conditioner: Shunyata Triton 3
Power Cables: Shunyata Sigma 1 & 2, Alpha 2, Delta and Venom
ICs and SCs: Wireworld Platinum 8
Rack: Artesania Exoteryc
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April 22, 2019, 01:44 PM #15
Re: New Progression Stereo
“Life’s too short to listen to bad audio.”
Big rig: Brinkmann Taurus DD TT + 12.1 arm + Lyra Etna Lambda SL MC + HRS M3X2/ Cardas Clear Beyond phono/ Stillpoints LPI/ Brinkmann Edison mk2 phono + RöNT II Tube PS/ Synology NAS with Roon + HD Plex linear PSU + Shunyata HD/ AQ Vodka RJ45 + Aqvox Network Switch SE + AQ Diamond RJ45 into DAC/ Brinkmann Nyquist mk2/ Audionet Humboldt/ Cardas Clear Beyond ICs/ Kharma DB9-S 1.1 LS/ Inakustik Reference LS 4004 AIR/ Audioquest Niagara 5000/ Shunyata Alpha power (HC, Analogue, Digital)/ Finite Elemente Pagode Rack/ Stillpoints Ultra SS/ Vicoustic panels + Stillpoints Aperture II.
Small rig: Naim UnitiServe/ Curious USB/ Tidal/ Linn Klimax DS3/ Shunyata Power cable/ Pass Labs INT-60/ Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II/ HiD Diamond 8/ Harbeth 30.2 40th Anniversary/ Shunyata Venom EU7 & Venom 3 HD.
HP rig: MacBookAir/ Tidal/ Auralic Gemini 2000/ Sbooster LPSU/ Audeze LCD-2 Classic + WyWires Red/ Shunyata HD/ Shunyata Hydra 2/ Shunyata Venom.
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April 22, 2019, 02:47 PM #16
Re: New Progression Stereo
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Mike
Amplification: MBL 6010D, MBL 9008A Monos
Analog: Kuzma R, Kuzma 4Point (11”), MSL Ultra Eminent EX
Phono Pre: Pass XP-27
Digital: Esoteric N01XD Esoteric K05
Speakers: MBL 101E MKII
Subwoofers: REL Carbon Specials
Conditioner: Shunyata Triton 3
Power Cables: Shunyata Sigma 1 & 2, Alpha 2, Delta and Venom
ICs and SCs: Wireworld Platinum 8
Rack: Artesania Exoteryc
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April 22, 2019, 06:27 PM #17
Re: New Progression Stereo
First up I think it is great that a manufacturer is offering the upgrade to customers and very close in price to the difference in new price of an old vs new amp. Nothing worse than buying a model for it to be replaced with a better sounding more power version. I have owned the S200 for over 6 years now, so time to upgrade.
When you look at selling/trading the S200 / M300's and buying the S250 / M400's, the cost is a lot more than the upgrade cost.
The only PITA is that the unit has top be returned to the factory as the upgrade is substantial, so can't be done by distributors.
cheersSource: Technics SP10mk3 - Thales Simplicity II, TW Raven AC-3 - Graham Phantom, SME 3012-R, Exclusive P3,,Linn LP12 - Naim ARO
Cartridges: Lyra Atlas Lambda SL, Lyra Etna SL, Lyra Delos, Dynavector XV-1s,Technics EPC100mk4, Ortofon A90, GM Royal, GM Classic, Denon ESC'd 103R, DL-S1, Audio Technica AT25, OC9II, Linn ESC'd Troika
Phono Stage: Phasemation EA-1200, Accuphase C-37,TW Acustik phono
EQ: DEQX HDP-4
Preamp: D'Agostino HD, conrad johnson GAT,
Amps: conrad johnson teflon premier 8a's, D'Agostino Momentum S250
Speakers: Wilson Maxx3
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April 22, 2019, 06:43 PM #18
New Progression Stereo
Agree, upgradeability is a great service to customers. Nothing worse than seeing the gear you own drop 50% in value when a new generation is launched, w/o being able to do anything against it.
That’s what I also liked about the Ayres when I had them. Soulution are also offering upgrades for their products.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk“Life’s too short to listen to bad audio.”
Big rig: Brinkmann Taurus DD TT + 12.1 arm + Lyra Etna Lambda SL MC + HRS M3X2/ Cardas Clear Beyond phono/ Stillpoints LPI/ Brinkmann Edison mk2 phono + RöNT II Tube PS/ Synology NAS with Roon + HD Plex linear PSU + Shunyata HD/ AQ Vodka RJ45 + Aqvox Network Switch SE + AQ Diamond RJ45 into DAC/ Brinkmann Nyquist mk2/ Audionet Humboldt/ Cardas Clear Beyond ICs/ Kharma DB9-S 1.1 LS/ Inakustik Reference LS 4004 AIR/ Audioquest Niagara 5000/ Shunyata Alpha power (HC, Analogue, Digital)/ Finite Elemente Pagode Rack/ Stillpoints Ultra SS/ Vicoustic panels + Stillpoints Aperture II.
Small rig: Naim UnitiServe/ Curious USB/ Tidal/ Linn Klimax DS3/ Shunyata Power cable/ Pass Labs INT-60/ Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II/ HiD Diamond 8/ Harbeth 30.2 40th Anniversary/ Shunyata Venom EU7 & Venom 3 HD.
HP rig: MacBookAir/ Tidal/ Auralic Gemini 2000/ Sbooster LPSU/ Audeze LCD-2 Classic + WyWires Red/ Shunyata HD/ Shunyata Hydra 2/ Shunyata Venom.
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April 22, 2019, 07:29 PM #19
Re: New Progression Stereo
As well as CH Precision.
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Mike
Amplification: MBL 6010D, MBL 9008A Monos
Analog: Kuzma R, Kuzma 4Point (11”), MSL Ultra Eminent EX
Phono Pre: Pass XP-27
Digital: Esoteric N01XD Esoteric K05
Speakers: MBL 101E MKII
Subwoofers: REL Carbon Specials
Conditioner: Shunyata Triton 3
Power Cables: Shunyata Sigma 1 & 2, Alpha 2, Delta and Venom
ICs and SCs: Wireworld Platinum 8
Rack: Artesania Exoteryc
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April 22, 2019, 08:57 PM #20
Re: New Progression Stereo
You never know. ARC might one day offer upgrades, rather than having to buy new for V2 or SE version
Source: Technics SP10mk3 - Thales Simplicity II, TW Raven AC-3 - Graham Phantom, SME 3012-R, Exclusive P3,,Linn LP12 - Naim ARO
Cartridges: Lyra Atlas Lambda SL, Lyra Etna SL, Lyra Delos, Dynavector XV-1s,Technics EPC100mk4, Ortofon A90, GM Royal, GM Classic, Denon ESC'd 103R, DL-S1, Audio Technica AT25, OC9II, Linn ESC'd Troika
Phono Stage: Phasemation EA-1200, Accuphase C-37,TW Acustik phono
EQ: DEQX HDP-4
Preamp: D'Agostino HD, conrad johnson GAT,
Amps: conrad johnson teflon premier 8a's, D'Agostino Momentum S250
Speakers: Wilson Maxx3
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April 23, 2019, 07:53 AM #21
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