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    Introducing Center Stage2M

    Center Stage2M
    Designed by Joe Lavrencik, Critical Mass Systems
    Introduction

    We are very pleased to announce a major revision and replacement to our Center Stage2 audio feet. Each Center Stage2 model has been improved and replaced by Center Stage2M.

    There were several objectives behind the development of Center Stage2M. Firstly, we wanted to build upon the proven approach developed for the LS (loudspeaker) series of Center Stage2 products.

    Secondly, each new Center Stage2M product had to be a clear audible improvement over its current facing Center Stage2 relative. In other words, compared to the current CS20.8, CS2 1.0 and CS2 1.5, each new Center Stage2M had to be greatly improved across the audible spectrum.

    Finally, and most important, we wanted the performance improvement of each new Center Stage2M product to be so great, it leapfrogged its bigger brother in the current CS2 line up. In better words, the Center Stage2M 0.8 had to be better than the CS2 1.0. The Center Stage2M 1.0 had to be better than the CS2 1.5 and the Center Stage2M 1.5 had to set a new standard for audio footer performance in the industry.

    Center Stage2M accomplishes every objective we set by a wide margin. We are thrilled with Center Stage2M and we hope you will give them a try throughout your system. The “M” stands for “MAXX”.

    What was the Innovative Approach?

    Center Stage2M is direct trickle-down technology garnered from advancements made in the development of the Center Stage2 LS series of loudspeaker feet. The LS series of Center Stage2 products reduce stored loudspeaker cabinet resonances and entropy to a vanishing level resulting in enhanced clarity and musicality across the audible spectrum.

    Rather than approaching the problem of reducing vibration using new untested methodologies, we decided to “use the advancements we knew worked well with loudspeakers”. We used tested design fundamentals resting within the discipline of material science to determine the correct sequencing of the Center Stage2M materials. We established the proper proportions of the materials. And, we added damping in the very last stage in an amount that would eliminate the internal noise of the product and the component without rolling off the top end of the acoustic envelope.

    How Does Center Stage2M Work?


    Gain, Relative Permittivity, and the efficiency of electrical devices can be expressed as dimensionless numbers. For a moment, think of electricity as dimensionless energy moving through 3 dimensional pathways; printed circuit boards, resistors, capacitors, inductors, power supplies, wire, transformers, etc. When vibration is introduced into the atmosphere at the front baffle of the loudspeakers, vibration becomes a 3-dimensional form of energy that can only dissipate by permeating into 3-dimensional objects causing an unnaturally high state of mechanical excitation to occur within them; the objects vibrate. They will continue to vibrate when music is playing and eventually establish a relatively constant state of unnaturally high equilibrium that is well known to degrade the performance of audio components.

    Center Stage2M helps components reach their engineered potential in 3 ways. First, they mitigate vibration coming up from the surface below them. Second, they cancel out their own noise. This very difficult accomplishment ensures truth to source material and truth to component engineering design. Third, they transfer entropy out of the component. This feature requires time and is the reason for the extended settling process.

    It might be more appropriate to view Center Stage2M as the counterbalance to a destructive energy cycle within your components that will greatly reduce unwanted damaging energy and permanently hold a more peaceful state of equilibrium. The pleasant surprise is the wonderful sonic envelope that results.

    Audio Becomes Visual - The Total Immersion Effect


    The Total Immersion Effect can be described as a highly articulated acoustic sound field that extends from the back of the soundstage and sometimes wraps around the listener. It is crossing the threshold where audio becomes visual and the listener becomes part of the recording.

    Center Stage2M suspends disbelief. You experience something on the order of a 4k hi-rez 3D surround-event. You see the image in space, you hear and see the musical event occur inside the image, and then you hear, see and feel the sensory event spread out around you from the soundstage. Audio becomes visual and you become immersed in the sound field.

    Knocking down the “wall” that separates the listener from the musicians requires the electromechanical balance inside the components to reach an ultrafine point of equilibrium and to hold that equilibrium point across 20,000+ Hz in a fluctuating energy field so that the component can remain stable enough to create the Immersion Effect with consistency in the listening space.

    What to expect during settle in


    The settling in period is generally 7 to 10 days, but it can be longer. Because Center Stage2M will dramatically change the current electromechanical equilibrium of your components, you should expect your system to temporarily degrade at the outset. This is perfectly normal. Your soundstage will then begin to reconstruct itself by gently tipping upward and downward as it establishes a new and better equilibrium point.

    In the end stage, the oscillations will become ultrafine and be largely experienced in the high frequencies. They will be barely perceptible unless you really focus. It is extremely important to let the system play for at least 14 days before assuming it has reached equilibrium. Playing a system 24/7 is not always necessary, but the more playing time the better. Think of it like running in a brand-new component. Run in time is normal.

    Your end of the Bargain, or Making the Experience Better


    Center Stage2 is good for beginners and advanced listeners, so long as you exercise extreme patience during the settling period. Sonic fluctuations you may experience during the settling period will subside as time passes. Here’s what you need:

    1. Components crafted by a known and reliable manufacturer. Your components do not need to be among the “most expensive” or the purported “best” in the world. You will experience excellent results with low cost components. A host of components were used to design Center Stage2M, some of them very low cost. This was done to assure consistency of performance. It is certainly true, however, that the better your components, the better your results.

    2. Neutral wiring crafted by a known and reliable manufacturer. Some wiring is a “tone control”. Tone control wiring is not necessary. The more invisible your wire, the less it makes its presence known in your system, the better your results.

    3. A Clean Circuit. It is critically important to make sure that “cheap” power supplies from computers, screens, servers and most turntables etc. are plugged into a circuit separate from the circuit servicing your main components. The dirt from these low-end plug-ins will contaminate your signal. You may not have heard it before, but you will certainly hear it with Center Stage2M.

    4. Stable rack(s) and/or stand(s). Home furnishings are fine. Center Stage2M was vetted on various flat wooden surfaces with Janka ratings of 1200 and higher equating to an elastic modulus of 4 GPa or greater. This means that virtually any flat surface will net tremendous results. Having said this, the better the surface with respect to its associated and/or inherent technological properties, the better the results. The results on CMS racks is superlative.

    5. Proper loudspeaker set up. This is essential. Center Stage2M was designed to be most effective in 2-channel stereo system listening rooms with conventional loudspeakers of appropriate size and design for the room, and with seating positions reasonable and appropriate for the loudspeaker and room dimensions.

    6. When you put Center Stage in, pull every tweak out. Center Stage2M will take about 7 to 10 days to settle. Be slow, careful and cautious about adding any other device(s) back into your system. Adding Center Stage under more of your components is the only means to realizing the full “Total Immersion Effect” so highly valued in high end audio.

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    Re: Introducing Center Stage2M

    Any trade in for the Center Stage 2?

    ozzy

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    Re: Introducing Center Stage2M

    Quote Originally Posted by ozzy View Post
    Any trade in for the Center Stage 2?

    ozzy
    Hi Ozzy

    I sincerely wish I could. I thought really hard about that. The only way I could do that would be to raise the price of the 2M to sum price that would absorb the delta in production cost. I didn't want to do that. The price of the CS2M is only marginally more than the CS2. So, no.

    I also thought about an upgrade. The problem with that was that upgrading would damage the CS2. So, upgrade was not a possibility.

    The CS2M is a new version that is clearly a major step forward. Sometimes this happens. I sincerely hope you understand.

    All the Best

    Joe

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    Re: Introducing Center Stage2M

    Mike, what is your price on these?
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    Re: Introducing Center Stage2M

    Quote Originally Posted by rbbert View Post
    Mike, what is your price on these?
    We haven’t been given pricing yet.


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    Re: Introducing Center Stage2M

    Just received:

    Center Stage2M are individually packaged in attractive boxes and come in 3 sizes:

    CS2M 0.8 is 1.5” in diameter with a height of 13/16” (38mm x 20.6mm). +/- 5 microns

    · US retail price of $280 each
    · 2 ounces, 56 grams
    · To accommodate uneven surfaces and components with bottoms that are not level, each foot comes with 3 shims.

    CS2M 1.0 is 1.5” in diameter with a height of 1.0” (38 mm x 25.4mm). +/- 5 microns

    · US retail price of $545 each
    · 3 ounces, 88 grams
    · To accommodate uneven surfaces and components with bottoms that are not level, each foot comes with 3 shims.

    CS2 1.5 is 2” in diameter with a height of 1.5” (50.8mm x 38mm). +/- 5 microns

    · US retail price of $795 each
    · 10 ounces, 290 grams
    · To accommodate uneven surfaces and components with bottoms that are not level, each foot comes with 3 shims.


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    Re: Introducing Center Stage2M

    Quote Originally Posted by CMS View Post
    I also thought about an upgrade. The problem with that was that upgrading would damage the CS2. So, upgrade was not a possibility.
    If no upgrade option, I'm out. I'll stick with my CS2.
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    Re: Introducing Center Stage2M

    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    If no upgrade option, I'm out. I'll stick with my CS2.
    I have 11 sets of these - I'm good too and happy with what I've got. I am more than a little disappointed the CS "LS" Loudspeaker Footers don't work for speakers with stands yet. Would have bought them otherwise.

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    Re: Introducing Center Stage2M

    Yeah, with no trade in or upgrade path I am out too. It took me too long to save up for the 5 sets I have now.

    ozzy

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    Re: Introducing Center Stage2M

    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    If no upgrade option, I'm out. I'll stick with my CS2.
    Hi Brodricj

    CS2 is a great product. Thank you for being an owner. We truly appreciate you and we are very glad you're happy.

    All the Best,

    Joe

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    Re: Introducing Center Stage2M

    i ll never be IN as long as there is only esoteric marketing and zero information.
    when the centerstage2 was released, joe promised: there will never be a mk2 of it.

    what is the difference between centerstage2 and centerstage2m, construction and soundwise?
    no photos of the new product?

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    Re: Introducing Center Stage2M

    Quote Originally Posted by u-sound View Post
    ...no photos of the new product?
    There was no mention at all of CS2M on their website when I checked a few days ago.
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    Re: Introducing Center Stage2M

    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    There was no mention at all of CS2M on their website when I checked a few days ago.
    Still waiting for photography.

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    Re: Introducing Center Stage2M

    A very brief flurry of activity over three months ago and still nothing on the CMS website about the CS2M.
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    Re: Introducing Center Stage2M

    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    A very brief flurry of activity over three months ago and still nothing on the CMS website about the CS2M.
    I hope they get something up soon, but I do know they are currently moving to a new factory.


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    Re: Introducing Center Stage2M

    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    A very brief flurry of activity over three months ago and still nothing on the CMS website about the CS2M.
    I've had both an original set and a similar of the latest incarnations--and neither seemed to enhance any difference from my previous Shun Mook
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    Re: Introducing Center Stage2M

    I have 2s 1.0 under my preamp, amps, dac and streamer and they are certainly better than the previous Stillpoints Ultra SS I had. While they do provide somewhat more holographic images, the lack of a tizzy metallic artifact in the upper registers with the Stillpoints was worth the extra cost IME.
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    Re: Introducing Center Stage2M

    Quote Originally Posted by sb6 View Post
    I have 2s 1.0...
    And they are what exactly, CS2 or CS2M?
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    CS2, I believe CSM2M are for under speakers.
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    Re: Introducing Center Stage2M

    Quote Originally Posted by sb6 View Post
    ...I believe CSM2M are for under speakers.
    CSM2M? CS2M replaced CS2.
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    Re: Introducing Center Stage2M

    What are the different heights for? To raise the component past the "height" of the stock feet? Are these footers are not just for speakers? 🤔

    This whole product line sounds confusing, at best.

    And not helped by not having any photographs.

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    Just google Critical Mass Center Stage 2. They are the discontinued model. The new model is Center Stage 2M. More expensive than CS2. The height 0.8/1.0/1.5 is to elevate the chassis off the stock feet. 0.8 gets Esoteric chassis' off the feet. 1.5 gets Halcro DM8 off its feet. For example. You can go higher than you need to if you want to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    Just google Critical Mass Center Stage 2. They are the discontinued model. The new model is Center Stage 2M. More expensive than CS2. The height 0.8/1.0/1.5 is to elevate the chassis off the stock feet. 0.8 gets Esoteric chassis' off the feet. 1.5 gets Halcro DM8 off its feet. For example. You can go higher than you need to if you want to.
    That's what I thought, thanks.

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    Re: Introducing Center Stage2M

    The CS2 and CS2M (0.8, 1.0 and 1.5) are for components while the LS (0.8, 1.0 and 1.5) are for speakers.

    The major different between 0.8, 1.0 and 1.5 are not in height but the quantity of the material inside that do the magic. The 1.5 has a much larger footprint than the 0.8 and 1.0

    You can use the 1.5 under a component that has tiny stock feet if you have the money and the improvement is huge over the 0.8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dts-99 View Post
    ...The 1.5 has a much larger footprint than the 0.8 and 1.0...
    Not so. All three sizes have exactly the same footprint (38mm diameter). Unless the manufacturer specs are wrong.
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    Re: Introducing Center Stage2M

    Sorry, you are dead wrong.

    I can't afford the 1.5 myself but I still have a set of 1.5 borrowed from the dealer right in front of me and they are 2" in diameter. Much bigger and heavier than the 0.8 and 1.0 that I have.

    Please read post #6 of this thread which stated this same information from a dealer.

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    I saw a dealer spec sheet and all three sizes were drawn as 38 mm diameter. Maybe some misguided or premature marketing. If CS2M 1.5 are 2" they have upped the width from the previous model (which I own).
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    Re: Introducing Center Stage2M

    The CS2 1.5 that I borrowed from the dealer is 2" in diameter. I believe the CS2M 1.5 is 2" in diameter as well.

    Just look at the photo at the CMS site where they shown all three models together and it is not hard to see that the 1.5 is much bigger than the 0.8 and the 1.0

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    Re: Introducing Center Stage2M

    Yes, you're right. I just measured my CS2 1.5. It's 50mm wide. There is some errant marketing material out there, I definitely saw a spec sheet drawing of CS2 1.5 at 38mm wide. This was obviously wrong. I'm glad we got that cleared up!
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