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Kingsrule said:
I play DSD512 files with roon...not sure this guy knows all the facts.....
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Are you sure that you are not confusing upscaling and streaming? Room can upscale anything to DSD512 if you want to, but the stream file is a lower resolution like 44.1, DSD64, 192 etc.
 
nicoff said:
Are you sure that you are not confusing upscaling and streaming? Room can upscale anything to DSD512 if you want to, but the stream file is a lower resolution like 44.1, DSD64, 192 etc.
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As far as I understand it, Roon can handle native DSD512.
 
It may all be semantics.
Roon can take a lower resolution file (44.1, 96, 192, DSD64) and upsample it to PCM353 or DSD512 for your DAC to decode. But I am not aware of any music service streaming at DSD512 (or PCM353).
 
You can buy DSD512 files online and play them from your local hard drive. I am not aware of anywhere you can stream them online. The bandwidth needed would be HUGE.

i am not aware of any service that streams DSD at all.

You have to either rip SACDs to a local file or buy them online. They are available among other places, from HD Tracks and NativeDSD.
 
Roon up-sampling should be turned off for best sonics IMO

Any up-sampling on any piece (dCS) doesn't sound real at all. Native is where its at......

And yes DSD512 is from files.....
 
nicoff said:
Are you sure that you are not confusing upscaling and streaming? Room can upscale anything to DSD512 if you want to, but the stream file is a lower resolution like 44.1, DSD64, 192 etc.
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I did say files.......never mentioned up-sampling or streaming....
 
nicoff said:
Ok! I have never seen native DSD512 myself. Did not know it existed for streaming. Where can you get that from?
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crwilli said:
You can buy DSD512 files online and play them from your local hard drive. I am not aware of anywhere you can stream them online. The bandwidth needed would be HUGE.

i am not aware of any service that streams DSD at all.

You have to either rip SACDs to a local file or buy them online. They are available among other places, from HD Tracks and NativeDSD.
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Kingsrule said:
Roon up-sampling should be turned off for best sonics IMO

Any up-sampling on any piece (dCS) doesn't sound real at all. Native is where its at......

And yes DSD512 is from files.....
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Exactly. There is no service that streams DSD at all, at any resolution. There are, however, a handful of DSD256 and DSD512 downloads available. When I say Roon can handle DSD512 natively, I mean you can download the DSD512 file to your hard drive and Roon will play it without having to upsample it.
 
crwilli said:
You can buy DSD512 files online and play them from your local hard drive. I am not aware of anywhere you can stream them online. The bandwidth needed would be HUGE.

i am not aware of any service that streams DSD at all.

You have to either rip SACDs to a local file or buy them online. They are available among other places, from HD Tracks and NativeDSD.
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Are these files actually recorded at DSD512 or are they native PCM 16/44.1 files that have been upsampled and converted to DSD? If the files truly were recorded at DSD512, are there any artists that anyone has heard from outside of their parents?
 
mep said:
Are these files actually recorded at DSD512 or are they native PCM 16/44.1 files that have been upsampled and converted to DSD? If the files truly were recorded at DSD512, are there any artists that anyone has heard from outside of their parents?
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The only DSD512 download I'm aware of is Vanessa Fernandez's latest album, which was upsampled from the DSD64 master tape and made available as a DSD512 download: https://groovenote.nativedsd.com/albums/GRV1200-i-want-you

EDIT: Actually, GrooveNote has several DSD512 downloads available, most of which are in the classical genre: https://www.nativedsd.com/homepage/dsd512_music
 
mep said:
So this outstanding example of music we all love to listen to is upsampled from DSD64. Again, I doubt there are many true native DSD512 files.
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Pretty much. In this case, the question comes down to would you rather have GrooveNote do the upsampling before you download the file or would you rather have your Roon core or DAC upsample the DSD64 download.
 
asindc said:
Pretty much. In this case, the question comes down to would you rather have GrooveNote do the upsampling before you download the file or would you rather have your Roon core or DAC upsample the DSD64 download.
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It's a moot point since I own the PS Audio DSJ DAC.
 
mep said:
Are these files actually recorded at DSD512 or are they native PCM 16/44.1 files that have been upsampled and converted to DSD? If the files truly were recorded at DSD512, are there any artists that anyone has heard from outside of their parents?
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I am only aware of DSD512 files being available from NativeDSD. They say they have 98 albums. I have no idea how they were recorded.
 
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