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    Windows 11

    I am giving Windows 11 a good run in on both my Microsoft Surface Pro 6 and my Falcon Northwest Laptop. So far it seems to be pretty darn good. Took about a day to get used to the changes... now when I am back at work I kind of miss it and would love to have all our computers on it (although I believe that many would not be compatible, the requirements are rather high for a new OS) ...

    I am on the conversion discovery team for the county so I figured that I should learn about whatever changes are there etc. Much easier to move to it than other new OS versions that I have experience in the past 20-30 years.

    Works like a charm on both of my machines and Roon Controller works perfect on the Surface. So far I have yet to find an application that I was previously running on either machine that does not run at least as good with Windows 11!

    I would say, in my view, Windows users should not have any issues moving to it and Apple users should feel a ton more comfortable than they have been with previous versions of Windows.
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    Re: Windows 11

    If I want Windows 11 I need to buy a new laptop. The one I have cannot accommodate it.

    Nice to hear it's running like a charm.
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    Re: Windows 11

    Quote Originally Posted by NorthStar View Post
    If I want Windows 11 I need to buy a new laptop. The one I have cannot accommodate it.
    Most things that are three to four years old or less can accommodate it.... however sometimes settings need to be done. For example my Falcon tested to not be compatible, but it was a setting or drive function that needed to be turned on. Digging in the bios I was able to make a couple setting changes and then it was good to go!

    Currently they only have it available with new machines, from my understanding. But people who are involved with Microsoft insider program can get a "preview" version, but when you install it at this time it installs the full release version ....
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    Re: Windows 11

    Ars Technica always does good reviews of operating systems. Here's their Windows 11 review.
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    Re: Windows 11

    My Dell laptop is two years old, so I should be able to upgrade 10 to 11 on it. Not sure if I will though since I only use it on Friday to buy a couple of albums from HDTracks, and an occasional County Zoom meeting. Everything else is done on the iPad.
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    Re: Windows 11

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    If you look in Settings under Windows Update it should tell you if your laptop is eligible or not.
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    Re: Windows 11

    Wow, this is shocking, I have a very very fast core i7 processor with tons of ram and SSD etc, and it's not supported! Did not expect that.
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    Re: Windows 11

    Quote Originally Posted by 2fastdriving View Post
    Wow, this is shocking, I have a very very fast core i7 processor with tons of ram and SSD etc, and it's not supported! Did not expect that.
    What is not supported? Might be a setting in BIOS. That is what mine was
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Myers View Post
    What is not supported? Might be a setting in BIOS. That is what mine was
    Correct.

    It is probably UFEI. Or secure boot, needs to be enabled.

    My 1 year old Core i9 desktop wasn't Windows 11 ready. Until I updated/enabled that setting in BIOS.

    That said, for now I'm sticking with Windows 10 on my desktop but, will try out 11 eventually.

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    I have been playing with Windows 11 on my laptop for a month now. It runs fine (as did Windows 10) but I am not seeing anything compelling which would lead my to upgrade the OS on my main desktop. That isn't a knock on 11 but for what I do, the changes aren't significant. It would have been nice if they made some major changes to commonly used programs like File Explorer.

    What changes have people found to be the most useful?
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    Re: Windows 11

    So far I am still getting used to it. I really like the interface changes and have gotten to the point that I miss them when I turn on my machine at work. As you stated, nothing super compelling, but also nothing has changed so radically as to turn people off. I think the interface has been smoothed out considerably. It seems easier to find things, especially Windows Tools. No more 3-4 program folders for Windows applications, all under a single Windows Tools. Everything is going very much toward icons which appear to be very consistent across the system. Cut, rename, etc., use the same placing and icon throughout as a small example.

    Since it will be a free upgrade there is also no compelling reason not to upgrade if your CPU is less than 3-4 years old. That is the biggest limiting factor. The compatibility check program (offered in the Windows Upgrade section) seems to clearly state what is not compatible which leads to what settings need to be made, if that is the issue.
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    Re: Windows 11

    My experience with OS changes is that a fresh install is always better than an upgrade. Of course, that requires a ton more work.

    On a side note, my Win 10 computer was running slower than normal. I did a fresh install of Win 10 and now it runs like it is new.
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    Re: Windows 11

    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Myers View Post
    Most things that are three to four years old or less can accommodate it.... however sometimes settings need to be done. For example my Falcon tested to not be compatible, but it was a setting or drive function that needed to be turned on. Digging in the bios I was able to make a couple setting changes and then it was good to go!

    Currently they only have it available with new machines, from my understanding. But people who are involved with Microsoft insider program can get a "preview" version, but when you install it at this time it installs the full release version ....
    I need a new laptop, my Sony VAIO (i5) is 5-6 years old or so.

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    Re: Windows 11

    Quote Originally Posted by 2fastdriving View Post
    Wow, this is shocking, I have a very very fast core i7 processor with tons of ram and SSD etc, and it's not supported! Did not expect that.
    I think Microsoft wants you to buy new machines.

    * How old is your old i7 machine?
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    Re: Windows 11

    Quote Originally Posted by NorthStar View Post
    I need a new laptop, my Sony VAIO is six years old or so.

    * Curious; what's your favorite web browser...Edge?
    Yea, your Sony is probably too old. They are pretty much talking about CPU's that are less than 3-4 years old that have certain built in security features. CPU's are the biggest disqualifier. Most other stuff can be worked out. My Falcon originally said it was not compatible but it was a bios setting. No harm no foul.

    I am currently using Edge, mainly, and Chrome. Edge really is Chrome anyway (it uses the Chrome engine).
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    Re: Windows 11

    Yes, laptop's too old...for shure.

    Edge is Chrome, they are mutual friends. I'm not a fan of Google.

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    Re: Windows 11

    This is a good thing. Lining up all the old outdated updates is quite the pain. I actually put together an area in my office where I keep the loaner laptops just so I can let them update every so often. This last year was crazy. I had a couple that had not been turned on for months and months. It took forever to get them up to date.

    If an update supersedes another then the prior one should not need to be installed. It is nice that they are finally changing their updates as such!
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    Re: Windows 11

    I installed Windows 11 on my old laptop from 2009. I know it is not supported, but with some optimization, I'm even able to run an audio plugin host and play my guitar.
    There are many workarounds on the Internet for unsupported laptops/PCs.

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    Re: Windows 11

    From my understanding the real issue that many older machines have are in the security issues, mainly CPU security issues. If you are willing to by pass these new improved security features then there really is no reason that Windows 11 would not run on any machine that can run Windows 10.
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    Re: Windows 11

    I'm not bothered by security issues. I didn't have a security issue since Windows 7 32-bit.
    Most of my time I even turn off the antivirus. Why? I visit safe sites, use legal software, and don't use USB drives any more (I put files on my personal cloud). Therefore, I'm not bothered with the UEFI, TPM or CPU issues.

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    Re: Windows 11

    I could load it, as my machine is capable and compatible per Microsoft requirements, but I ask myself why?. I don't need Snap of anything, or Widgets , or this virtual stuff they are pushing. Win 10 works just fine.
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