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    Tidalís New Lossless Tier Says Goodbye to MQA

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    Re: Tidalís New Lossless Tier Says Goodbye to MQA

    Good riddance. Must have been my "comment" as to why I unsubscribed from Tidal to which I answered "MQA"
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    Tidalís New Lossless Tier Says Goodbye to MQA

    Itís a bit misleading. Their lossless Tier is now limited to red book. Their new HiFi Plus plan will have red book and MQA Hi Res and immersive audio (which Iíve tried and is pretty cool).

    With Apple about to announce Hi Res and Spotify doing the same, the streaming business is getting quite interesting.

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    Re: Tidalís New Lossless Tier Says Goodbye to MQA

    It's the quality of the mastering that matters most, anyway.

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    Re: Tidalís New Lossless Tier Says Goodbye to MQA

    Quote Originally Posted by Puma Cat View Post
    It's the quality of the mastering that matters most, anyway.
    True and how itís treated afterwards. Run a great recording through a crappy A2D or master it in a way that degrades it and you end up with a less than stellar result.

    Get the musicians in the same room, record to tape, press it to vinyl and enjoy the magic!

    We need some more retro ways. Tube consoles, tape. The way so many great albums were recorded. No auto tune, compressed, speed manipulated garbage.


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    Re: Tidalís New Lossless Tier Says Goodbye to MQA

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    True and how itís treated afterwards. Run a great recording through a crappy A2D or master it in a way that degrades it and you end up with a less than stellar result.

    Get the musicians in the same room, record to tape, press it to vinyl and enjoy the magic!

    We need some more retro ways. Tube consoles, tape. The way so many great albums were recorded. No auto tune, compressed, speed manipulated garbage.


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    And just as many crappy recordings were made using those techniques.
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    Re: Tidalís New Lossless Tier Says Goodbye to MQA

    i agree, the first order affect by far is the recording quality + techniques and the mastering...

    i would rather listen to a great quality recording over two-tin-cans-and-string than i would a poor recording through mike's reference system!!

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    Re: Tidalís New Lossless Tier Says Goodbye to MQA

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    ...Get the musicians in the same room, record to tape, press it to vinyl and enjoy the magic!

    We need some more retro ways. Tube consoles, tape. The way so many great albums were recorded. No auto tune, compressed, speed manipulated garbage.
    so true -- this is the exact process used by dave rawlings and gillian welch ...and, the result prove this out -- especially(!) getting the musicians in the same room.
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    Tidalís New Lossless Tier Says Goodbye to MQA

    Letís get our ducks in the right order.
    The most important thing is the quality of the musicianship. That is, the artist, the orchestra, the performance.
    How it was recorded and the mastering comes in second place.
    If you prefer a top notch recording with lousy musicianship over a top notch performance with amazing artists, then you are just an audiophile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicoff View Post
    Letís get our ducks in the right order.
    The most important thing is the quality of the musicianship. That is, the artist, the orchestra, the performance.
    How it was recorded and the mastering comes in second place.
    If you prefer a top notch recording with lousy musicianship over a top notch performance with amazing artists, then you are just an audiophile.
    But wasn't that part of Holt's Law...the better the recording, the worse the performance?
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    Re: Tidalís New Lossless Tier Says Goodbye to MQA

    Quote Originally Posted by nicoff View Post
    Letís get our ducks in the right order.
    The most important thing is the quality of the musicianship. That is, the artist, the orchestra, the performance.
    How it was recorded and the mastering comes in second place.
    If you prefer a top notch recording with lousy musicianship over a top notch performance with amazing artists, then you are just an audiophile.
    I agree. It is the artist and the performance that is key to me. Sure I enjoy a well recorded album but I have some truly poor recording of someone such a Timi Yuro who performance just makes you sit up and pay attention.
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    Re: Tidalís New Lossless Tier Says Goodbye to MQA

    I wonder how Tidal will implement this with current customers. Will they receive a notice to choose the new tier.....
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    Re: Tidalís New Lossless Tier Says Goodbye to MQA

    Quote Originally Posted by 4N6 View Post
    But wasn't that part of Holt's Law...the better the recording, the worse the performance?
    No, I think that's the Law of Jazz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by still-one View Post
    No, I think that's the Law of Jazz.
    Bolt was referring to classical music. Jazz music from the 1950s and early 1960s on whole were recorded with a quality that eludes lots of modern recordings.
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    Re: Tidalís New Lossless Tier Says Goodbye to MQA

    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    Bolt was referring to classical music. Jazz music from the 1950s and early 1960s on whole were recorded with a quality that eludes lots of modern recordings.
    Therefore the quality of the recording has very little to do with the sales.
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    Quote Originally Posted by still-one View Post
    Therefore the quality of the recording has very little to do with the sales.
    Please elaborate.
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