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    Qobuz vs NAS music selection

    When I look for music on Qobuz, sometimes, maybe 3% of the time, I have the choice of selecting between the song on my NAS or Qobuz. Most all of the time if the music is on my NAS that is the only choice I have. It may be available in HiRez on Qobuz and it would be nice to have the choice to compare.

    How do I get Qobuz to show both when I look for a song that is on my NAS.

    I went to Qobuz and Roon and found no information on this setting choice.

    Any Ideas? Thanks
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    Re: Qobuz vs NAS music selection

    In Roon, for that album selection, look at the "Versions" tab at the upper right. Mine shows library, Qobuz, and Tidal versions there and you can select from them.
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    In ROON Settings, General, there are choices you can make for how it deals with streaming. You can tell it to prioritize a Higher Resolution source if you have multiple versions in your library. You can also tell it how to deal with MQA.

    It’s not exactly what you are looking for but it’s all I have found.
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    Re: Qobuz vs NAS music selection

    Those are both helpful, I will take a look later today. Thanks
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    Re: Qobuz vs NAS music selection

    Roon is the answer, my friend can put in something like Pink Floyd DSOTM and it will bring up every version from Qobuz, Tidal and his HD. Hopefully the help given will get you there but if not post and I will check with my friend to see how he sets his up.
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    Re: Qobuz vs NAS music selection

    Quote Originally Posted by brad225 View Post
    When I look for music on Qobuz, sometimes, maybe 3% of the time, I have the choice of selecting between the song on my NAS or Qobuz. Most all of the time if the music is on my NAS that is the only choice I have. It may be available in HiRez on Qobuz and it would be nice to have the choice to compare.

    How do I get Qobuz to show both when I look for a song that is on my NAS.

    I went to Qobuz and Roon and found no information on this setting choice.

    Any Ideas? Thanks
    To be able to see both the Qobuz versions and the ones in your HD, you must first add the Qobuz version(s) to your library.
    Once you do that, when you are searching your library, both the Qobuz versions that you added and the ones in your HD will be shown. I hope that helps.

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    Re: Qobuz vs NAS music selection

    What’s really interesting when I do this is that Qobuz often only has the higher rez ‘remastered’ versions which more often than not sound inferior to the original or MoFi 16/44.1 versions I have on my NAS.
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    Re: Qobuz vs NAS music selection

    With the app I use (BluOS) , I first select the source (Qobuz, Tidal, Library, etc) and then Search for the music. I generally use Qobuz for my music and this will find just about everything that's also in my NAS Library.

    If I don't know what to listen to, but want to browse music that I know I like, this is impossible with any streaming service, so I'll select Library, then Folders, then choose one of my main folders (Classical, Non-Classical, World & Weird, etc) and browse my own collection. This will be in Composer order (last name) or Artist (first name) in other folders.

    Can one browse one's Library (only) if using Roon? I'd like to know as otherwise my own app is more useful to me than Roon. Thanks.
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    Re: Qobuz vs NAS music selection

    Quote Originally Posted by Hear Here View Post
    With the app I use (BluOS) , I first select the source (Qobuz, Tidal, Library, etc) and then Search for the music. I generally use Qobuz for my music and this will find just about everything that's also in my NAS Library.

    If I don't know what to listen to, but want to browse music that I know I like, this is impossible with any streaming service, so I'll select Library, then Folders, then choose one of my main folders (Classical, Non-Classical, World & Weird, etc) and browse my own collection. This will be in Composer order (last name) or Artist (first name) in other folders.

    Can one browse one's Library (only) if using Roon? I'd like to know as otherwise my own app is more useful to me than Roon. Thanks.
    Have you used Spotify? They have really good algorithms that let you listen to music that you never heard based on what you like.

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    Re: Qobuz vs NAS music selection

    No but only because Spotify isn't lossless. I don't want to drop below CD quality and Spotify still doesn't offer anything better than MP3 as I understand it.

    Likewise Roon offers its "radio" facility where it choses music it thinks you'll enjoy based on your recent choices. I could use Roon, but I think I'd lose the facility to browse my own NAS-stored Library of 1500 CDs that I know I like. I find the browse feature useful when I can't decide what to listen to, but happy to rely on the choice offered by my own Library
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    Re: Qobuz vs NAS music selection

    Roon definitely lets you browse your own files along with streaming services.


    Quote Originally Posted by Hear Here View Post
    No but only because Spotify isn't lossless. I don't want to drop below CD quality and Spotify still doesn't offer anything better than MP3 as I understand it.

    Likewise Roon offers its "radio" facility where it choses music it thinks you'll enjoy based on your recent choices. I could use Roon, but I think I'd lose the facility to browse my own NAS-stored Library of 1500 CDs that I know I like. I find the browse feature useful when I can't decide what to listen to, but happy to rely on the choice offered by my own Library
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hear Here View Post
    No but only because Spotify isn't lossless. I don't want to drop below CD quality and Spotify still doesn't offer anything better than MP3 as I understand it.

    Likewise Roon offers its "radio" facility where it choses music it thinks you'll enjoy based on your recent choices. I could use Roon, but I think I'd lose the facility to browse my own NAS-stored Library of 1500 CDs that I know I like. I find the browse feature useful when I can't decide what to listen to, but happy to rely on the choice offered by my own Library
    I have been a Roon/Qobuz subscriber for years. Like you, I was reluctant to consider Spotify for streaming because of their lower than CD-quality resolution. After giving it a try, I now listen to Spotify most of the time because of their music selection and reliability. I still subscribe to Qobuz, but rarely listen to it anymore.

    I am a lifetime subscriber to Roon and use Roon to manage my own library. Roon's music management capabilities are the best in the business and it will manage your own library in ways you never thought was possible.

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    Re: Qobuz vs NAS music selection

    Quote Originally Posted by nicoff View Post


    I am a lifetime subscriber to Roon and use Roon to manage my own library. Roon's music management capabilities are the best in the business and it will manage your own library in ways you never thought was possible.
    I have my Library of ripped CDs arranged into a few main Folders - Classical, Non-Classical, etc. Within these main folders, I list all my Composers / Artists - maybe 100 in each main folder. I can browse my Classical collection with ease.

    Can Roon access my music in this way? In other words can Roon list my Classical collection by Composer without using Search and without my Non-Classical stuff being included? Search is always pretty useless unless you know exactly what you're looking for - it's hopeless (as is a list of Artists or Composers) for browsing. Thanks
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    Re: Qobuz vs NAS music selection

    ROON offers a ‘Folders’ view of your stored music. It presents it much the same way a PC would.
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    Re: Qobuz vs NAS music selection

    Quote Originally Posted by Hear Here View Post
    I have my Library of ripped CDs arranged into a few main Folders - Classical, Non-Classical, etc. Within these main folders, I list all my Composers / Artists - maybe 100 in each main folder. I can browse my Classical collection with ease.

    Can Roon access my music in this way? In other words can Roon list my Classical collection by Composer without using Search and without my Non-Classical stuff being included? Search is always pretty useless unless you know exactly what you're looking for - it's hopeless (as is a list of Artists or Composers) for browsing. Thanks

    The short answer is Yes, with Roon you can search the music the way you described.

    I used to be a folder view lover and was skeptical when I switched to Roon.

    Roon has several tools that when used together let you view/group/sort/arrange your library in any way you want. Using the Focus and Bookmarks tools, for example, you can get easy and fast access to music already in your library. Here are a few examples:

    1. Identify/group all the high-resolution albums in your library. Click Focus, then click of Formats, select whatever resolution you want (including type of recording like DSD or PCM). Immediately you get a list of all the tracks that meet those criteria. You can then create a folder and save it.
    2. You can similarly identify and group all the Qobuz/Tidal albums in your library.
    3. List of Albums by any performer. Take the artist John Coltrane. Coltrane performed with different groups throughout his life. If you do a normal search "John Coltrane" with Roon (using the magnifying glass), Roon will give you options like "John Coltrane Quartet", "John Coltrane Quintet", "John Coltrane Sextet". However, many albums where he was not a band leader are excluded. If you use "Focus" instead, then select John Coltrane as performer, ALL albums where JC played will automatically display (that includes albums where he is NOT the main artists). You can Bookmark that search, then ALL of the tracks where JC played are saved into that “folder”. “Bookmark” folders are dynamic. That means that whenever you add a new track/album where JC performs, it is automatically added to the “folder”. In other words, the "Bookmark" folder is always up-to-date.
    4. You create a Bookmark of the music of a particular composer, by a conductor, with a specific orchestra, and label but only high resolution tracks (Strauss/HvK/Berlin Phil/DG/high resolution). Same idea.

    Roon can take your library no matter how you have it organized and let you explore it in a totally different way.

    PS. You can use any of the following fields to group your music: Genre, Release Year, Performer, Composer, Production, Live, Label, Location, Format, Sample Rate, Bit Depth, Stereo or MultiChannel.

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    Re: Qobuz vs NAS music selection

    Roon also lets you create and listen to custom playlists, which can be a mix of ripped files and/or files provided by a streaming service, e.g., Qobuz. You can also import playlists from other parties, e.g., the playlists used by audio companies at audio shows. Some my faves are the Andrew Jones (ELAC and MoFi), Magico, and Wadia Qobuz playlists.
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