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    Re: MQA: That Sounds Good. To Me.

    Quote Originally Posted by rbbert View Post
    No. But it is rarely shown to its best effect with most of today's masterings and remasterings.
    Given that it is rare, then it is overrated, which supports my point.

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    Re: MQA: That Sounds Good. To Me.

    Great responses to my original post. Seems like there are a lot of good reasons why proprietary codecs are not a problem in the HT world. Also with DTS and DD there are two major players competing and innovation is happening as a result. One fear with a single player is if they win, choice and innovation go out the window.
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    Re: MQA: That Sounds Good. To Me.

    Quote Originally Posted by rbbert View Post
    Really?? Ever heard of DTS-HD Master Audio or Dolby TrueHD?
    Rob - of course I have heard of (and listen to) DTS-HD MA and TrueHD.

    I’m not sure I understand your point.
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    Re: MQA: That Sounds Good. To Me.

    Quote Originally Posted by nicoff View Post
    PS. Based on what I know, the HT world does not stress about fancy cables, or expensive power cords, etc.

    The HT world rely on objective tests to make sure that the image is correct (gamma adjustment, etc, etc). In other words, measurable and objective tests.

    That’s very unlike the 2-channel audio that rely on subjective “my-ears-tell-me this” stuff.
    I think that the Video world has always been based on objective measures of performance, agreed to by experts and published as a standard. That includes the development of perceptual audio and video coders. (ex:mp3) Granted that has been fraying a bit with things like DolbyVision.

    Contrast that with 2 channel audio where objective measurements don’t tell the entire story or are wholly discounted in favor of listener’s opinion.
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    Re: MQA: That Sounds Good. To Me.

    Quote Originally Posted by W9TR View Post
    Rob - of course I have heard of (and listen to) DTS-HD MA and TrueHD.

    I’m not sure I understand your point.
    They are both lossless high resolution digital audio formats in use in the HT world
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    Re: MQA: That Sounds Good. To Me.

    I've moved from Tidal to Deezer & must admit am very much enjoying the flac over the mqa

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    Re: MQA: That Sounds Good. To Me.

    Isn't it interesting that MQA (lossy, expensive) inspires discussion whereas for example MP4 (less lossy, free) does not? I'm sure more audiophiles would admit to listening to mqa, while I'm guessing no-one would admit in public to listening to MP4...
    Admittedly, the brand "master quality authenticated" sounds miles better than "moving pictures experts group layer 4, or MP4 for short".

    Is it in the name?
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    Re: MQA: That Sounds Good. To Me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gregm View Post
    Isn't it interesting that MQA (lossy, expensive) inspires discussion whereas for example MP4 (less lossy, free) does not? I'm sure more audiophiles would admit to listening to mqa, while I'm guessing no-one would admit in public to listening to MP4...
    Admittedly, the brand "master quality authenticated" sounds miles better than "moving pictures experts group layer 4, or MP4 for short".

    Is it in the name?
    Audiophiles understand that lossy formats like MP3 aren't up to RB standards and don't pretend to be. MQA was marketed as hi-rez and superior to all other digital formats.
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