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Thread: MQA Discussion
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June 21, 2018, 07:48 PM #1401
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Re: MQA Discussion
Final nail in what?
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June 21, 2018, 08:37 PM #1402
Re: MQA Discussion
If you're referring to Hi-Rez beating out MQA, then sure, it's a possibility. The other issue is that this is bad for Tidal and HDTracks as this is both of those sites combined into one.
Also, no mention if they're going to be compatible with Roon, or if they support MQA.
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June 21, 2018, 09:05 PM #1403
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Re: MQA Discussion
Issue? Qobuz purchasing price for HD content when on Sublime+ will be closer to MP3 prices not the rather expensive HDTracks pricing.
Danny from Roon mentioned yesterday on their forums that they are currently talking to Qobuz. In the link above Qobuz takes a shot at MQA saying no special hardware required and fully unfolded, you can read between the lines.
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June 27, 2018, 06:33 PM #1404
Re: MQA Discussion
https://youtu.be/drv9ESli5yI
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June 29, 2018, 09:50 PM #1405
Re: MQA Discussion
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July 2, 2018, 09:25 PM #1406
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Re: MQA Discussion
Oppo just released a firmware upgrade for the Oppo 205 that allows the 205 to fully decode MQA. And it is free!
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July 2, 2018, 09:54 PM #1407
Re: MQA Discussion
That actually took place back in Nov of last year and yep free. . Oppo UDP-205
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July 2, 2018, 09:58 PM #1408
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July 2, 2018, 09:59 PM #1409
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Re: MQA Discussion
Chris
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July 3, 2018, 08:11 AM #1410
Re: MQA Discussion
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July 3, 2018, 05:06 PM #1411
Re: MQA Discussion
I didn't know this but you can now stream Tidal MQA from a computer connected into the USB DAC. Now that is pretty cool for the 205. I just wish they would have opened up streaming via Tidal internally to the 205 like my 105 will do.
What I got from OPPO today after nic and Jack provided the info.
Chris,
The player can now decode MQA via the USB DAC input. You will be able to stream Tidal MQA from a computer connected into the USB DAC.
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July 3, 2018, 08:25 PM #1412
Re: MQA Discussion
I think the Tidal app woud do you no good if you want MQA? Other than by using Roon, I think you still need to use the Tidal desktop (i.e., computer) app to get MQA?
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July 3, 2018, 08:39 PM #1413
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Re: MQA Discussion
Say you have a computer connected to the Oppo 205’s USB Audio input. If you run Tidal in the computer and send the Tidal MQA output via that USB connection, then the Oppo 205 will do a full MQA decode.
You have to be connected to the Oppo via the USB Audio connector for it to decode the Tidal MQA track.
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July 6, 2018, 12:40 PM #1414
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Re: MQA Discussion
EXOGAL Audio announced that they are ceasing development of MQA for inclusion in EXOGAL products.
June 22, 2018. Said Jeff Haagenstad, CEO of EXOGAL: "We have been evaluating MQA technology and watching the wider MQA ecosystem since early 2016. After much research on the fundamental technology and more importantly on the market demand for MQA, we have reached the decision to cease the pursuit of adding MQA to our products for several reasons:
- Our products by themselves exceed the performance of our products with the inclusion of MQA,
- Regardless of the breathless hype by the audio press, actual consumer demand is just not there.
- Regardless of the announced support from record labels, a suitable base of playable content is not widely available.
- As for the technical details of our evaluation of the technology vis á vis our own technology, we prefer not to violate our NDA’s with MQA and Meridian.
- Much like Wadia's technology before us, EXOGAL technology is already oriented in the time domain and does not suffer from the time-smearing effect which MQA is supposed to eliminate.
Suffice it to say we were never able to achieve the advertised level of performance using the MQA technology and thus it does not meet our standards for inclusion in our products. Many experts outside of our company have articulately made the case against MQA and we see no reason to elaborate or comment on those findings."
“We will continue to watch the market evolve but for now, we are out of the MQA game.”
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July 6, 2018, 01:44 PM #1415
Re: MQA Discussion
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July 6, 2018, 03:22 PM #1416
Re: MQA Discussion
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July 6, 2018, 03:37 PM #1417
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The EXOGAL press release sounded more like an excuse to cover their inability to successfully implement MQA. Just like Berkley's excuse for not implementing DSD.
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July 6, 2018, 05:46 PM #1418
Re: MQA Discussion
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July 6, 2018, 05:48 PM #1419
Re: MQA Discussion
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July 6, 2018, 05:52 PM #1420
Re: MQA Discussion
https://youtu.be/-EWUiqW5hcM?list=PL...rVvQi7-dW7gm9o
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July 6, 2018, 05:59 PM #1421
Re: MQA Discussion
The latest list:
https://lookaside.fbsbx.com/file/MQA...SecrlDPnCCIx_Q
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July 6, 2018, 06:33 PM #1422
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Re: MQA Discussion
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July 6, 2018, 07:20 PM #1423
Re: MQA Discussion
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July 6, 2018, 10:15 PM #1424
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Re: MQA Discussion
Exactly. All the big DAC manufactures support and have announced support for MQA. EMM Labs even has support coming but, hasn't formally announced it yet.
The only big name DAC/Digital company that doesn't support it is Playback Designs. More so, that has probably something to with the SACD/DSD and DVD-Audio wars of back then.
I believe Bob Stuart and Meridian pushed DVD-Audio when SACD was trying to take off. But, we have even Sony supporting MQA on small portable players and other Japanese brands (TEAC/Esoteric) are now on board with MQA.
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July 20, 2018, 04:43 PM #1425
Re: MQA Discussion
https://www.essential.com/audio?utm_...JpnGsValS2xG6S
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July 20, 2018, 05:05 PM #1426
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Won't it prevent the phone from ringing???
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July 20, 2018, 05:14 PM #1427
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Schiit also does not support MQA, for good reasons:
http://www.schiit.com/news/news/why-...supporting-mqa
Of course you may think Schiit is not a big name DAC/Digital company. Think twice: It certainly is big. Last year they sold 65,000 units of equipment, much of it DACs. That's much more than MSB or dCS sell, for sure.
Oh, and Linn doesn't support MQA either:
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July 20, 2018, 05:17 PM #1428
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Ayre?
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July 20, 2018, 06:44 PM #1429Jim
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July 21, 2018, 12:18 AM #1431
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July 21, 2018, 12:30 AM #1432
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The majority of the units sold by Schitt are well under $1k so I doubt their total sales figures are anywhere near that high. The Yiggy is the highest price piece they sell.
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July 25, 2018, 08:10 PM #1434
Re: MQA Discussion
http://musically.com/2018/07/24/mqa-...tor=MusicREDEF
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And the friggin biggest mystery to me is why Porshe teamed up with Bose in my 911. I am on the fence with MQA. It will not make lemonade out of lemons though.
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July 26, 2018, 06:55 PM #1436
Re: MQA Discussion
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July 26, 2018, 10:52 PM #1437
Re: MQA Discussion
Although from many Internet comments, there is minimal difference in the sound; supposedly the electronics are the same, only the speakers different, and except for the tweeters not that different. There are some owners who report a worthwhile and relatively inexpensive improvement replacing the Bose tweeters with the Burmester ones
Rob
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July 27, 2018, 07:22 AM #1438
Re: MQA Discussion
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July 27, 2018, 08:05 AM #1439
Re: MQA Discussion
Jim
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July 27, 2018, 08:09 AM #1440
Re: MQA Discussion
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August 9, 2018, 12:48 AM #1441
Re: MQA Discussion
I can't read 144 pages. Did this get resolved? Hahaaaa
Hey Mike, you should post a couple Quick poles. MQA yes or no. Upsample, yes or no. Maybe a spot to enter the digital setup with the answer. Might be interesting to see if there are trends to equipment and what people think sounds good on it.First Sound Mark3SI preamp. Audion Black Shadow 845 SET Monoblocks. Mojo Audio Deja Vu Server. Mojo Audio Mystic 3 DAC. Linear Solution Ethernet Switch. Gigafoil with LPS. STST Motus II TT with Vertere SG1 arm, Hana ML Cartridge, Allnic H1201 phono pre. Pure Audio Project Trio 15 Horn speakers with Mundord Supreme oil caps. Power via 10 awg Oyaide cable from panel to custom distribution strip feeding front end. Oyaide dedicated10 AWG branch circuits from panel to each amp. Inakustik speaker and interconnect cables, Genesis Interconnect.
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August 9, 2018, 02:55 AM #1442
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August 10, 2018, 08:51 PM #1443
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August 10, 2018, 09:03 PM #1444
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Re: MQA Discussion
They are both custom install now. If I have a $85K car, I better have a commensurate audio system.
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August 10, 2018, 09:46 PM #1445
Re: MQA Discussion
You have to spend quite a few thousand to get the premium sound in any good car. But more important in my mind is not how good is tthe stereo, how damped is the tire hum off the road.
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August 11, 2018, 08:50 AM #1446
Re: MQA Discussion
Not sure I will be listening to music while driving off a hard road and while driving off the road, you are not going to hear the tire hum anyway. . I'm usually more worried about the sand, rocks, getting stuck, trees etcc. than listening to music . Maybe you meant something else. Like tire hum ON the paved road.
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August 17, 2018, 04:04 AM #1447
Re: MQA Discussion
Peter Lie
LUMIN Firmware Lead
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August 17, 2018, 05:00 AM #1448
Re: MQA Discussion
Thanks for posting. Here is a summary someone wrote on the article:
“Timing is of the essence.
The digitization process results in a mirror image with an inverted sideband beyond the Nyquist point.
This 'negative' image must be filtered out from the reconstructed analog form. Even if it is well beyond the sonic range of human perception.
Having a sampling rate of 44.1KHz limits the waveform maximum frequency to be recorded to half the sampling rate which corresponds to 22.05 KHz maximum.
Way before that point, the ultrasonic sidebands must be filtered out.
Having such a steep 'brickwall' filter causes aberrations to the signal. These are termed ringing or echoes before and after the cutoff point.
Natural echoes occur after a signal. However when converted back from digital to analog via the Digital to Analog Converter (DAC) these ringing echoes also occur symmetrically before the moment the signal pulse happens. This causes a coloration to the reconstructed sound.
This phenomenon can me mitigated by sampling at higher frequencies thus requiring a much 'better sounding' gentle filter for the ultrasonic frequencies components.
Thus timing is everything, in the Universe and also audio.
Takeaway: higher sampling rates sound better, due to the shifting of this Nyquist number way above human hearing bandwidth thus requiring less brickwall filters with a gentler slope to achieve the same results, with better (or less perceptible) audible ringing artifacts.
Excerpt:
In natural sound, echoes always occur after a sound—never before. This pre-echo is therefore unnatural; and while a continuous waveform will be reconstructed correctly, it is possible that the pre-echo might well be heard as a degradation with a discontinuous waveform, such as musical transients (see later).”My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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August 17, 2018, 07:50 AM #1449
Re: MQA Discussion
The end of the article (discussing playback of files encoded with the Ayre ADC) would seem to indicate that as far as sound quality alone is concerned, MQA is unnecessary; correct timing can be preserved through the recording chain without its compression or proprietary processing.
Rob
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August 17, 2018, 08:14 AM #1450
Re: MQA Discussion
My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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