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October 13, 2021, 02:21 PM #1
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If You Stream, It is Always Good to have a Plan B
I have have been streaming music for over 10 years now. In fact, today I listen to music via streaming over 90% of the time. But every so often gremlins appear and that is when having a Plan B is a savior. Some issues are easy to diagnose and solve, like when the computer running the media server is off (solution: turn it on!). Others may be easy to diagnose but you cant solve by yourself (like when the internet is down). On a recent evening as I was ready to listen to some music, I realized that the network switch appeared not to be working. Fixing that required a trip to the store for a replacement switch but only when the store opened the next day. Thats when your Plan B comes to the rescue. My Plan B is playing LPs.
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October 13, 2021, 03:00 PM #2
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October 13, 2021, 03:30 PM #3
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Re: If You Stream, It is Always Good to have a Plan B
Still have my TT and picked up a ransport not so long ago.
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October 13, 2021, 04:35 PM #4
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October 13, 2021, 09:03 PM #5
Re: If You Stream, It is Always Good to have a Plan B
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October 13, 2021, 09:23 PM #6
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Re: If You Stream, It is Always Good to have a Plan B
Mike
With some of the smaller labels if the contracts expire before an extension is reached the catalog is pulled and then if and when it comes back you may have to search and save them again. They also have to negotiate contracts separately for each region. I noticed one artist missing yesterday from a small jazz label on both Tidal and Qobuz so maybe the label has pulled out all together for now.Main - JVC QL-Y7/Denon DL-301 Mk II, Gold Note PH-10, Jays CDT3 Mk3 , Auralic Aries G2.2, Holo May KTE, Supratek Cabernet, Kinki Studio EX-B7 monoblocks, Verity Audio Otello, (2) Rythmik F12SE, Audio Envy IC, SC & PC's, Triode Wire Lab PC's, Inakustik USB and I2S, (2) Puritan Audio Labs PSM-156 with Groundmaster City, Timbernation rack
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October 14, 2021, 09:57 AM #7
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Re: If You Stream, It is Always Good to have a Plan B
Yes, just because you stream, does not mean you own the music. Just because you buy a movie does not mean you own it either it turns out... If not ok with it, buy physical media if you can find it and can afford to build a library these days.
"Apple's 'buy' button is a sham, because Apple has the right to remove movies from your iTunes library after you've bought them. If Disney decides it no longer wants to offer a particular movie in your country, your 'purchase' is no better than an extended rental. Only Blu-rays and DVDs are safe."
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October 14, 2021, 12:24 PM #8
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Re: If You Stream, It is Always Good to have a Plan B
i have plan "V"inyl... and plan "S"ACD... and plan "B"lu ray.....
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October 14, 2021, 04:58 PM #9
Re: If You Stream, It is Always Good to have a Plan B
When all else fails I just reach for the CD or LP and problem solved as I never got rid of any of my CD's or LP's
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October 14, 2021, 05:35 PM #10
Re: If You Stream, It is Always Good to have a Plan B
I’ve got a hd with 500 gb of 128 kps songs and I’m so often surprised at how often less is more.
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October 18, 2021, 01:49 AM #11
Re: If You Stream, It is Always Good to have a Plan B
If I find something I particularly like and it's available on disc, I buy it, then rip it to the music server. Then I have both the physical disc, and a copy on my hard drive.
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October 18, 2021, 03:42 PM #12
Re: If You Stream, It is Always Good to have a Plan B
Plan "A", vinyl; plan "B", files from the music server; plan "C", well not really a plan but I do have a FM Tuner in the system.
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October 18, 2021, 03:47 PM #13
Re: If You Stream, It is Always Good to have a Plan B
plan a is also vinyl, plan b is files, and in the event of power failure it is books !!
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October 18, 2021, 06:44 PM #14
Re: If You Stream, It is Always Good to have a Plan B
Books? What is this books thing you speak of? :-)
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October 20, 2021, 09:24 PM #15
Re: If You Stream, It is Always Good to have a Plan B
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October 21, 2021, 01:48 AM #16
Re: If You Stream, It is Always Good to have a Plan B
My plan A is also spinning vinyl at home. Streaming is only used at parties, BBQ's or if I want to explore some new music b4 buying the vinyl.
Plan A for the car is streaming with radio as plan B.Source: Technics SP10mk3 - Thales Simplicity II, TW Raven AC-3 - Graham Phantom, SME 3012-R, Exclusive P3,,Linn LP12 - Naim ARO
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October 21, 2021, 11:04 AM #17
Re: If You Stream, It is Always Good to have a Plan B
MY plan B went into effect yesterday when Spectrum took the cable down for 5 hours while they placed started on their project to place all the cable above ground, underground. Pulled out the LP's and spun some tunes. Life is good.
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October 22, 2021, 05:05 PM #18
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Re: If You Stream, It is Always Good to have a Plan B
plan A is streaming via Roon, plan B is my cd collection
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