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June 24, 2021, 07:02 PM #1
HiFi Rose RS150 Network Streamer Review
This looks awesome!
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June 24, 2021, 09:56 PM #2
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Does look very interesting, especially at that price point.......
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June 25, 2021, 04:17 AM #3
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My dealer has a demo unit, feels like a quality product, did not do a comparison yet to Aurender SQ wise, nice feature is being able to stream youtube, great for finding new music. (it has a display that shows youtube video also)
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June 25, 2021, 10:58 AM #4
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By coincidence I visited a showroom today on my way back from a visit to my brother's. They pointed me towards their demo Rose RS-150. It looked pretty impressive and I'll probably borrow it for a home trial soon. They did say that a new version will soon be released by HiFi Rose that will be similar but without preamp at a lower cost. They suggested as a possible amp, the MacIntosh MA252 with valve pre but ss power amplification. They will call me when they have this in stock so I can home trial both units.
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June 25, 2021, 01:42 PM #5
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Re: HiFi Rose RS150 Network Streamer Review
I predict this to be a hot item, the only streamer to my knowledge to actually do video. After reading the first of the article I was surprised at how reasonable the price is. Roon & MQA, they did their homework. Although more aps to come they still only have Tidal & Qobuz. The reviewer used Apple Air but that isn't the best way in my experience.
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June 25, 2021, 03:10 PM #6
Re: HiFi Rose RS150 Network Streamer Review
The guy at the showroom today was using HiFi Rose's own app for control of Tidal, so that should be as good as anything - perhaps? The app appeared quite intuitive on an iPad. He said he controlled it from his PC as well, though Rose's site only mention Android and iOS. He said that "getting rid" of the Korean junk (radio services, etc) was a bore but could be done. Sound quite interesting. Peter
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June 25, 2021, 03:33 PM #7
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Re: HiFi Rose RS150 Network Streamer Review
Aurender ACS10 w/Audioquest Diamond USB, Esoteric N05xd
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June 26, 2021, 11:31 AM #8
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Re: HiFi Rose RS150 Network Streamer Review
Did the price increase by $1,000 recently? It used to be 4K, now it's 5K?
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June 27, 2021, 05:35 AM #9
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Can't help there but it's current UK price is £3899 including 20% VAT
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July 6, 2021, 09:07 AM #10
Re: HiFi Rose RS150 Network Streamer Review
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December 13, 2021, 07:36 PM #11
Re: HiFi Rose RS150 Network Streamer Review
Stereophile has a review in last month’s issue for the HiFi Rose RS250 streamer/DAC/Preamp
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December 21, 2021, 08:43 PM #12
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Re: HiFi Rose RS150 Network Streamer Review
I just had my first opportunity to try out the Hifi Rose 150B I have to say it was awesome. I tried it connected directly to a Parasound JC5 as a DAC Preamp and it really sounded nice. It was probably equal to the DAC built into the Classe Delta PRE I just tried out. But that screen! OMG I couldn’t take my eyes off of it and really enjoyed the information and cover art displays. It was easy to use and gives many options. IF it had a built in crossover with sub outs, it would be better, but we can’t have everything. It’s a product that exudes quality and looks and feels every bit it’s price tag. I did get some “popping” through my speakers when changing sources and on/off, so I called them and they said it would be addressed with Firmware. Good job HifiRose!
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December 21, 2021, 11:01 PM #13
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December 22, 2021, 10:10 AM #14
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I think The Absolute Sound also did a review. I read both reviews and it sounds interesting but probably not my cup of tea so to speak. Then again, I am not in to streaming.... soooo....
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December 22, 2021, 10:26 AM #15
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Re: HiFi Rose RS150 Network Streamer Review
Here is a most recent review of Rose RS250: Spending Time With The HiFi Rose RS250 - Reviews - Audiophile Style
The comment from a user sums it all up for me: Too expensive for a casual user and not audiophile enough for this crowd.Perlisten S7t speakers with two Perlisten R212s subwoofers | T+A PA 3100 HV integrated amp with PS 3000 HV power supply | Esoteric N-01XD DAC & Streamer| Esoteric G-05 Master Clock | Jay’s Audio CDT3-MK3 Transport | Innuos ZENith MK3| Shunyata Everest
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May 11, 2022, 09:58 PM #16
HiFi Rose RS150 Network Streamer Review
A couple of months ago, a customer brought his Hi-Fi Rose into the store. We hooked it up, and were all super impressed with the sound, the screen, fit and finish and value!! After that visit, I was sold.
The original RS150 was released with an AKM chip. The current version has the SABRE ES9038Pro, a chip used in much more expensive streamers. Add to this, a high precision Femto clock and a Linear Power Supply and you have all the goodies in one box.
For those who like their audio by the pound, the RS150 has some real weight to it. Solid built, milled from a solid block of high purity aluminum. Excellent fit an finish. The connections at the back are plenty and easy to reach.
Add the Hi-Fi Rose RSA780 and you have a CD player for your RS150 and a ripper. Add SSD storage into the bottom of the RS150 for ripping those CD’s.
The high-resolution screen is outstanding, 14.9 inches wide and has an immediate “WOW” affect when people walk in the store and see it. Yes, it can be turned off if that’s your thing. All unused inputs and outputs can also be turned off to improve sound quality as well.
The digital outputs allow the connection to an external DAC, although, I must say, the one in the RS150 is excellent.
The front screen is a touch screen, specifically, an IPS Multi-Touch panel. It comes with a remote standard as well. The HiFi Rose software is excellent, but they are currently experiencing a bit of a bug with the QoBuz integration. Tidal is working flawlessly. Yes, it does MQA too. Yes, it’s a Roon endpoint too. It even has HDMI 2.0.
Believe it or not, you can even watch videos on the screen. There is a Rose Connect app for iPhone as well. The HiFi Rose app called Rose Connect is beautiful to use and look at. Reminds me a lot of the Innuos app.
The RS150 has plenty of filter options as well, which I haven’t even begun to experiment with.
Play/watch YouTube videos if that’s your thing. Loads of internet radio stations. Even an old fashion “tuner” type option for local stations. The screen is also completely adjustable for displaying album artwork, VU meters and so much more. It’s got some heavy duty graphics for whatever mode you’re in. If that’s not your thing, you can turn off the display.
There is so much to unpack here in this $5000 package, I am having a hard time getting through it all in this post. Does it sound awesome? Yes. Does it sound better than double, maybe even triple it’s price? Yes.
The bottom line is this: Hi-Fi Rose has put the competition on notice. They are here to stay. They are creative, thinking outside the box and moving the needle and providing tremendous value.
If that wasn’t enough, the new Hi-Fi Rose RA180 integrated amp (due to be shipping soon) also stands to set a new benchmark with the use of GaN FET technology. I’ve heard it. It’s ballsy, musical and smooth sounding.
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May 12, 2022, 04:39 AM #17
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May 12, 2022, 05:24 AM #18
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May 12, 2022, 06:13 AM #19
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May 12, 2022, 06:20 AM #21
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May 12, 2022, 07:00 AM #22
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May 12, 2022, 07:16 AM #23
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Not sure that’s a fair comparison. You sure it was ESS? That model is very new. Did you do things to improve the sound like turn off unused inputs/outputs, turn off the screen, etc. Burn in is also key with this unit.
We can agree to disagree, but in my experience with streamers, I think it’s a superb unit, especially for the price.
It may not beat a Linn Klimax DSM (which I have coming for eval), ND555 (I own), Esoteric N-01XD (I own) or one’s at that level, but to my ears, it beats a lot, including my NDX2. If you compare this to something like a $10K Meitner MA3, the the RS150 is night and day better. Better sounding, WAY better build quality, far more features and functionality and half the price. It’s just insanely good.
On the Korean forums, according to my Korean friend Paul, the talk is that the new ESS is a lot better than the AKM version and hence they don’t really make the AKM version any more.
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May 12, 2022, 11:45 AM #24
Re: HiFi Rose RS150 Network Streamer Review
Obviously not comparing use in the HiFi Rose; but I have always been told that the chip itself it not so much the key, but how it is used and implemented. I would believe that probably there were other changes, not just the chip. I do know in my portable, which has both AKM and ESS chips, I very much prefer the sound of the AKM.
However, I have also heard that many companies are switching off AKM chips and it has nothing to do with performance, but instead availability because of the AKM plant burning down.McIntosh C49, MC152, MR85, R778 | T+A DAC 8 DSD | KEF LS50 Meta w/S2, KC62 (x2) | Rega RP8, Ania Pro, NEO PSU | Technics SL-1500C | Audio Technica VM750ML | Hexmat Eclipse, Yellow Bird, Molekula, Molekula Mini | Pro-Ject VC-E | Falcon NW PC Server (Roon Core & HQPlayer) | Microsoft Surface Pro 6 (Roon Controller) | Wyred 4 Sound ISO Recovery, DC Recovery | Abyss Diana Phi | Schiit Jotunheim 2 | Astell&Kern SE200 | Oppo BDP105
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May 12, 2022, 12:57 PM #25
Re: HiFi Rose RS150 Network Streamer Review
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May 12, 2022, 02:25 PM #26
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Re: HiFi Rose RS150 Network Streamer Review
Hi Mike,
How do you compare the sound quality of Rose to the Aurender N200 or N20? You stated it performs 2x-3x its price. Is it in the N20s league?
Thanks!
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May 12, 2022, 03:41 PM #31
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May 12, 2022, 06:07 PM #34
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I really don't understand this post. Also, it's none of your business.
I have known Mike for a long time. He's not the dealer guy like you may have experienced. He is a true music lover and passionate about the audio gear. He was a music lover like you and me and decide to expand his audio journey with Suncoast Audio. If he doesn't like the sound of gear he wouldn't carry the line even if it has a 90 % margin/profit . I can tell you that much.
Let's move back to the main topic here.
Mike, are you getting the int amp as well? If so, I would love to hear about the speaker paring
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May 12, 2022, 06:15 PM #35
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Thanks Paul. I know a lot of dealers ask “what’s the margin?” as their first question before they take on a line. It’s my last. My thinking has always been: if the product and company are great, the money will take care of itself.
I’m going to do a YouTube video soon on “how do dealers pick lines?” and discuss the various examples. For me, it’s having great folks like you to encourage me to look into something. I wouldn’t be selling Kharma without your raves after every listening session! So, thanks for that!
I will be getting the integrated. It has the same tech as those awesome sounding AGD amps (GaN technology). 200 watts a channel and a cool and funky look. Can’t wait.
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May 12, 2022, 06:15 PM #36
Re: HiFi Rose RS150 Network Streamer Review
I would love to understand how it compares to pieces like the Lumin X1 and Esoteric N-05XD. Any insight?
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May 12, 2022, 06:18 PM #37
HiFi Rose RS150 Network Streamer Review
After break in, I plan on doing just that! My point is this: this might just be the best audio product (not just network streamer) under $5k given its sound, features, functionality and fit and finish (in my opinion).
In a year from now, people will be referring back to this thread saying “damn, Mike was right!”
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May 12, 2022, 09:53 PM #38
Re: HiFi Rose RS150 Network Streamer Review
This comment is very disappointing. A personal and ethical attack without any merit.
Mike has been a friend for many years. He’s a trustworthy with the highest levels of integrity. I doubt very much that his initial comments of this particular model of the Rose RS150 are in any way related to profitability. He just calls it the way he “hears it”!
Lastly, in a world in which many dealers try to push people to the uber expensive gear, isn’t it refreshing to have one that has been impressed with a very affordable piece?_______________
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May 16, 2022, 05:45 AM #39
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Re: HiFi Rose RS150 Network Streamer Review
Mike, I appreciate your thoughts on the HiFi Rose. The unit looks fantastic. Of course, what is better is subjective. However, How does the internal dac compare to a similar priced T2 if one doe not need all the features, like video screen, etc, of the HiFi Rose? One thing I do like about the HiFi Rose is that I believe it has a VU meter screen. I'm a sucker for VU meters
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May 16, 2022, 08:35 AM #40
Re: HiFi Rose RS150 Network Streamer Review
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"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
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May 18, 2022, 05:28 PM #41
Re: HiFi Rose RS150 Network Streamer Review
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May 18, 2022, 05:42 PM #42
Re: HiFi Rose RS150 Network Streamer Review
My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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June 3, 2022, 10:41 AM #43
Re: HiFi Rose RS150 Network Streamer Review
Mike have you had the opportunity to try using the RS150 USB out into a DAC direct? The more I read on this option the cloudier it gets. Thanks
Marty
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June 3, 2022, 10:43 AM #44
Re: HiFi Rose RS150 Network Streamer Review
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June 4, 2022, 10:50 AM #45
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Re: HiFi Rose RS150 Network Streamer Review
For people who already have a good DAC, wouldn’t it be nice Rose came up with a Streamer only, no DAC built in, cheaper model? Same gorgeous screen, and streaming quality & capability, digital out, no DAC.
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June 4, 2022, 10:56 AM #46
Re: HiFi Rose RS150 Network Streamer Review
HiFi ROSE
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June 4, 2022, 11:07 AM #47
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Re: HiFi Rose RS150 Network Streamer Review
Ahhhhh….. this must have been launched recently. Admittedly, I had not checked the lineup in months, but when I did, they did not have such thing. Thanks Mike
On a close look: speaker outs? Preamp outs? I was thinking something like a streamer only. Digital out to DAC, and nothing else. No DAC, no amp. Just a streamerPerlisten S7t speakers with two Perlisten R212s subwoofers | T+A PA 3100 HV integrated amp with PS 3000 HV power supply | Esoteric N-01XD DAC & Streamer| Esoteric G-05 Master Clock | Jay’s Audio CDT3-MK3 Transport | Innuos ZENith MK3| Shunyata Everest
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June 5, 2022, 06:11 PM #48
Re: HiFi Rose RS150 Network Streamer Review
I'd say this is a pretty good explanation of the RS150b. Mine has been playing for about two weeks and is now settling into my system. There is a lot of energy and detail and the soundstage is improving from what I first noticed. I usually listen with the display off and I haven't used any of the apps.I'm either watching TV, playing Youtube from my main computer or streaming Tital/Qobuz with Roon from my Ipad. I left the screen film on so finger prints aren't a issue. I use the app on my iPhone to run and switch inputs and settings. That's one of the best parts for me. I haven't used the supplied remote except to set it up for the first time.
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June 23, 2022, 04:53 AM #49
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Re: HiFi Rose RS150 Network Streamer Review
Better sounding than MSB Discrete with Network Renderer? I briefly had a Lumin X1 and while the massive soundstage, detail, and liquidity impressed, I found the tone to be not as natural as others. More homogeneous and in a way analytical. I think in the end the character of the Sabre chip came through, so I'm looking at this RS150 with a dose of skepticism.
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June 23, 2022, 07:36 AM #50
Re: HiFi Rose RS150 Network Streamer Review
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