GigaFoil v4 Inline Ethernet Filter

**Leatherneck** · June 26, 2019, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by Puma Cat

I just got my GhentAudio Gotham GAC "JSSG360" DC cables in the post today.

Turns out I needed a mix of plugs, 2.1mm on the SOtM end and 2.5mm on the Keces P3 end, but I have a Keces 2.1/2.5 adapter, so everything works. Maybe in the future, I'll order a cable with a "hybrid" mix of plugs, but for now, its fine. Its been burning in for the last couple hours and already sounds pretty nice. Notably quieter than the el cheapo OEM Keces DC cable.

My P3 is in the Chinese mail system. I hope to get it soon. I live in Arizona so it should be fairly quick.

**Puma Cat** · June 26, 2019, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by Leatherneck

My P3 is in the Chinese mail system. I hope to get it soon. I live in Arizona so it should be fairly quick.

You'll get it pretty soon. Its really a very nice power supply; I was impressed with the execution, build quality, fit and finish and even the packaging.

**UltraFast69** · June 27, 2019, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by Leatherneck

My P3 is in the Chinese mail system. I hope to get it soon. I live in Arizona so it should be fairly quick.

P3 or Ghent Cables?

P3 comes from Korea, Ghent is China

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**Leatherneck** · June 27, 2019, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by UltraFast69

P3 or Ghent Cables?

P3 comes from Korea, Ghent is China

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My mistake, it's a cable from Ghent. The P3 power supply is from Taiwan.

**Kingrex** · October 4, 2020, 09:56 AM

Need help. Did I kill my gigafoil or was it something else.
I got a used one from a trusted source. I didn't read anything. I plugged in the wall wart. The light came on. I plugged in an output ethernet, unplugged the ethernet from my server, put it in the gig and put the load into my server. After a couple minutes I worry the music is still on due to the buffer. It never stopped playing. I then close and open Qobuz. Accept it wont open. I try a couple times. Nothing. So I pull the erhernets and put them back as rhey were. All is well. I leave rhe gigafoil on my rack plugges in with the jumper just hanging

At this point the gigafoil is pretry hot. Its been on 5 minutes and has to be about 100 degree farenheit.

5 hours later I think about trying it again. Its dead. Stone cold. The PS is dead. 0 volts.

Any thoughts

**Randy Myers** · October 4, 2020, 10:22 AM

Sorry that you are having a problem with it. I hate hearing anyone having issues with any gear.

It sounds burnt. Did you smell anything or see any wisps if smoke? Did you use the original power supply or use another one you had?

**Darrel** · October 4, 2020, 10:25 AM

Sorry to hear of you gigafoil issue. I use a Keces linear power supply with my gigafoil. It never runs more than warm to me. I have it on top of sorbothane pieces to help with air flow. I do that with just about everything. You might try another power supply just to see if the old power supply is the issue? I've never seen what the gigafoil is made of. I'm not sure what can go wrong inside one. Good luck.

**Kingrex** · October 4, 2020, 10:26 AM

No smoke. Just surprised one would be very warm in 5 minutes. That must ha e been a hugh load on the PS and cooked it.

Do these things run warm. Around 100 degree Fahrenheit?

**Kingrex** · October 4, 2020, 10:38 AM

It's definitely the PS at this point. My Fluke says the PS is dead.

My real question is, can you dmage the gigafiol plugging cables in and out with it powered on.

**Darrel** · October 4, 2020, 11:00 AM

100 degrees is just above body temperature so maybe it's 100 degrees. Here is a link to gigafoil. You may want to read through the instructions and or contact them also.

GigaFOILv4-INLINE - EMI/RFI Filter for 10/100 and Gigabit Ethernet

**Kingrex** · October 4, 2020, 11:53 AM

I read their website, but thanks for rhe link. It appears its hot swappable so nothing i did should have damages it. For some reason the included PS died. Now I'm trying to find the pin size tk order a Soobuster. Does anyone know the model to get. They don't call out a gigafoil. Just a lot of mini dsp, chord and.other.

**Mike** · October 4, 2020, 12:12 PM

You’ve had a string of bad luck lately. Did you check the outlet and it’s ground? This is the first I’ve heard of one overheating and stop working. Also, check that the PSU the guy sold you with the unit is indeed the right one (correct voltage, etc.)

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**Kingrex** · October 4, 2020, 01:23 PM

The wall wart has no ground. Its 5 volt, 1000 mv as the unit requires. The prior owner had a Keces powering it. Probably never used this PS. My concern is the gigafoil itself may have an issue and fried rhe PS. Its not often a wall wart fails. I have no way to test it.

**TheGiant** · December 16, 2020, 01:43 PM

Reading with great interest!

Would a FMC like the Gigafoil still be necessary if I have a direct connection, utilizing a good Ethernet cable like the AQ Diamond, from my Google Mesh transmitter to the digital streamer transport?

Thanks

**crwilli** · December 16, 2020, 01:50 PM

No, it is not necessary but it may still help your SQ.

**Kingrex** · December 16, 2020, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by TheGiant

Reading with great interest!

Would a FMC like the Gigafoil still be necessary if I have a direct connection, utilizing a good Ethernet cable like the AQ Diamond, from my Google Mesh transmitter to the digital streamer transport?

Thanks

I think you would get better sound quality if you had a ethernet from your router/switch to a quality server. Server connected to dac. I don't know I would bother with a gigafoil if I was wifi to a generic streamer. I don't even see how you could make it work unless your streamer went to a gigafoil that went to a endpoint like a Rendu of some sort.

**TheGiant** · December 16, 2020, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Kingrex

I think you would get better sound quality if you had a ethernet from your router/switch to a quality server. Server connected to dac. I don't know I would bother with a gigafoil if I was wifi to a generic streamer. I don't even see how you could make it work unless your streamer went to a gigafoil that went to a endpoint like a Rendu of some sort.

I guess we are talking the same thing. My audio room is located on the third floor of the house and I utilize the Google mesh wifi system which works great? I get about 400 mps download speed on the third floor. I have a mesh transmitter on the third floor and I guess the mesh transmitter works as a wireless router and a switch. Currently have an Ethernet cable hooked up directly from the Google mesh router to my Oppo 105 and sounds pretty good. But I am on verge of buying the Lumin U1 streamer and want the best possible performance. Since I will be hooking up directly from my mesh router wasn’t sure if a FMC like the Gigafoil would be necessary.

Thanks
André

**MHapple** · December 23, 2020, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by Kingsrule

IME the Gigafoil sounds much better than a FMC...

I have 2 GigaFoils V4 .. one right before my NimitraS and the other for my Lumin D2 w/Sbooster power Supply
I agree with you about it sounding better ..than Standard Fiber conversion set up

**MHapple** · December 23, 2020, 07:32 PM

Same here for me Audioquest Vodka from the output of GigaFoil to Lumin D2 w/Sbooster power Supply

**thyname** · February 25, 2021, 03:07 PM

Anyone has any experience with this one?

ENO Ethernet Filter Ag – PS579.17 (UK PS695 incl. VAT) – Network Acoustics

It's passive (no power supply required).

**Kuoppis** · February 28, 2021, 05:27 AM

Originally Posted by thyname

Anyone has any experience with this one?

ENO Ethernet Filter Ag – PS579.17 (UK PS695 incl. VAT) – Network Acoustics

It's passive (no power supply required).

Guess it does the same thing as a Gigafoil, but in a more compact package.

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**Kingrex** · February 28, 2021, 10:40 AM

Network Acoustics ENO Ethernet Filter Ag & ENO Streaming Cable Ag | The Ear

**Kingrex** · February 28, 2021, 10:41 AM

Interesting as no power supply

**crwilli** · February 28, 2021, 11:56 AM

Nor any real explanation of how it converts EMI/EMF and to heat...

**Kingrex** · February 28, 2021, 01:16 PM

How do you know its turning into heat

**crwilli** · February 28, 2021, 01:41 PM

Here : this is from the link you posted. At the bottom...

The ENO is filtering RF Interference or 'noise'
Permalink On Mon, 09/11/2020 - 11:56am
The review is a non-technical review based on Chris Kelly's listening experience, in his system, while using the ENO and matching Streaming cable.
As the designer of ENO I can answer your questions. Firstly we must establish what the reason is that a lot of streaming devices don't quite achieve the level of sound quality of Hi-End CD and vinyl. Our research has proved that the digital input circuitry of streaming devices is very sensitive to the effects of RF interference or 'noise' that is present mixed in with the Ethernet signal when it's delivered into the RJ45 socket on the back of the streaming device. The Ethernet signal passes through the ENO filter unaltered, it arrives at its destination untouched, fully intact. The RF interference that's also in the cable is filtered out and absorbed as heat within the ENO Filter. So what arrives at your streaming device is pure unaltered clean data, not noisy mushy data. The difference in sound quality of pure clean data to noisy mushy data is quite astonishing.
The device is made by hand using the best quality components possible, it's labour intensive to produce, and that, combined with the lift in sonic performance you get, makes it very good value for money.

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