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  1. #51

    EtherREGEN on the way!

    Iím more interested in using Gigafoil in series with EtherRegen with Gigafoil being the last in the chain. I know Uptone says not to, but I guess thatís what all manufacturers would say. I will let my ears be the judge, as always. In my system, EtherRegen will replace my older generation AirPort Extreme. And EtherRegen will be powered by Teddy Pardo LPS. I also have Keces which is already used on Gigafoil.

    All the differing opinions aside, Iím excited. Also, as a side note, looking forward to Shunyata Denali 6000T v2 that is rumored to be released in January.

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    Re: EtherREGEN on the way!

    Quote Originally Posted by Adyc View Post
    Just want to confirm that your server is connected to DAC using USB?
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    Re: EtherREGEN on the way!

    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    Iím more interested in using Gigafoil in series with EtherRegen with Gigafoil being the last in the chain. I know Uptone says not to, but I guess thatís what all manufactures would say. I will let my ears be the judge, as always. In my system, EtherRegen will replace my older generation AirPort Extreme. And EtherRegen will be powered by Teddy Pardo LPS. I also have Keces which is already used on Gigafoil.

    All the differing opinions aside, Iím excited. Also, as a side note, looking forward to Shunyata Denali 6000T v2 that is rumored to be released in January.
    I would already say without hearing you will have a major step up getting free from Apple.

    It will be interesting to see what you hear leaving Gigafoil in place feeding it with etherREGEN


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    Re: EtherREGEN on the way!

    Seems mine will be shipped before or on January 16th. Received an email this morning from Uptone.

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    Re: EtherREGEN on the way!

    This test of the EtherREGEN might be interesting

    https://www.audiosciencereview.com/f...-review.10232/
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    EtherREGEN on the way!

    Quote Originally Posted by tube-vds View Post
    This test of the EtherREGEN might be interesting

    https://www.audiosciencereview.com/f...-review.10232/
    Whoís this amirm guy? Seems he has a ton of time on his hands and an axe to grind.

    Note: I only could finish first 20 posts or so.

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    Re: EtherREGEN on the way!

    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    Whoís this amirm guy? Seems he has a ton of time on his hands and an axe to grind.

    Note: I only could finish first 20 posts or so.
    Hahaha. The history of him on another forum is legendary. It was WWF fights daily. Sheer nonsense, even if it was entertaining. As Iíve said before, our members have deep experience (and actual real systems, not pretend, make believe, one day in 30 years when my house is finished systems) and donít need to consistently fight about whoís d*ck is biggest. There is no such thing as ďbestĒ anyway. Itís all personal preference.


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    Re: EtherREGEN on the way!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Hahaha. The history of him on another forum is legendary. It was WWF fights daily. Sheer nonsense, even if it was entertaining. As I’ve said before, our members have deep experience (and actual real systems, not pretend, make believe, one day in 30 years when my house is finished systems) and don’t need to consistently fight about who’s d*ck is biggest. There is no such thing as “best” anyway. It’s all personal preference.


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  9. #59

    Re: EtherREGEN on the way!

    Quote Originally Posted by tube-vds View Post
    This test of the EtherREGEN might be interesting

    https://www.audiosciencereview.com/f...-review.10232/
    I've followed all the talk about the EtherRegen both at AS (Audiophile Style) and ASR ( Armin's Audio Science Review). Despite some of the reactions at ASR being hostile and juvenile, I think they raise important issues about the state of AudioNervosastan.

    As I've stated above, I heard absolutely nothing in my system with the eR. I may have heard an increase in clarity when using fiber optic, but by the time I was testing that out, I was so thoroughly fatigued by the testing process, I didn't push further. I believe if it was better with fiber, it was the fiber, and had nothing to do with the eR.

    My listening was done blind with a friend's help switching back and forth.

    The user reports at AS are bordering on ecstatic. I'm happy for them and hope their perceived sonic bliss continues. I don't pretend to know, contrary to the folks at ASR, if they are under a self-inflicted spell of mass delusion, or if there is some technical, reality-based reason for their perceptions. There are no measurements to back up listeners reports that SQ is improved by this switch at the analog output of the DAC.

    Amir, at ASR, did some tests and found no differences between the eR switch and his standard switch. To me, this proves one thing-- that he got no measurement to show a difference. It's some data points. On the other hand, Uptone has not provided any measurements to back up their claims. Whatever the case, I don't think Uptone has attempted to peddle snake oil, as some at ASR have accused them of. The ASR crowd is so convinced that an ethernet switch can not possibly make a difference in SQ that they sincerely view anyone who says it can to be either deluded or dishonest.

    So we only have user reports of their listening experiences and Amir's data points. I have a hard time accepting sighted user reports when it comes to something like an internet switch. Bottom line, of course, is how something sounds in your system, but I don't think audiophiles as a group spend enough effort eliminating the variables of bias in their listening.

    I'm selling my eR to Emile of Taiko Audio and you can be sure he will competently evaluate it. Of anyone I'm aware of in Audio, given his technical knowledge and obsessive attention to detail, I'd be inclined to respect his opinion over about anyone.
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    Re: EtherREGEN on the way!

    Quote Originally Posted by Willco View Post
    I've followed all the talk about the EtherRegen both at AS (Audiophile Style) and ASR ( Armin's Audio Science Review). Despite some of the reactions at ASR being hostile and juvenile, I think they raise important issues about the state of AudioNervosastan.

    As I've stated above, I heard absolutely nothing in my system with the eR. I may have heard an increase in clarity when using fiber optic, but by the time I was testing that out, I was so thoroughly fatigued by the testing process, I didn't push further. I believe if it was better with fiber, it was the fiber, and had nothing to do with the eR.

    My listening was done blind with a friend's help switching back and forth.

    The user reports at AS are bordering on ecstatic. I'm happy for them and hope their perceived sonic bliss continues. I don't pretend to know, contrary to the folks at ASR, if they are under a self-inflicted spell of mass delusion, or if there is some technical, reality-based reason for their perceptions. There are no measurements to back up listeners reports that SQ is improved by this switch at the analog output of the DAC.

    Amir, at ASR, did some tests and found no differences between the eR switch and his standard switch. To me, this proves one thing-- that he got no measurement to show a difference. It's some data points. On the other hand, Uptone has not provided any measurements to back up their claims. Whatever the case, I don't think Uptone has attempted to peddle snake oil, as some at ASR have accused them of. The ASR crowd is so convinced that an ethernet switch can not possibly make a difference in SQ that they sincerely view anyone who says it can to be either deluded or dishonest.

    So we only have user reports of their listening experiences and Amir's data points. I have a hard time accepting sighted user reports when it comes to something like an internet switch. Bottom line, of course, is how something sounds in your system, but I don't think audiophiles as a group spend enough effort eliminating the variables of bias in their listening.

    I'm selling my eR to Emile of Taiko Audio and you can be sure he will competently evaluate it. Of anyone I'm aware of in Audio, given his technical knowledge and obsessive attention to detail, I'd be inclined to respect his opinion over about anyone.
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    Re: EtherREGEN on the way!

    Did Amirm test for ground leaks /loops. Did he test for smps noise, in all ways it may manifest itself. Wilcono is right when he said Amirm did "some" test. But did he do all test.

    I sometimes find a change as simple as a switch may not jump out as different. Yet I may notice in a couple days I'm playing familiar tracks at a click or 2 higher on my preamp. Each click is 1 db on my preamp, Maybe I notice a sense of fatigue has left. Or, as I start comparing different sources they sound more and more similar. Blind test is one thing. Songs grabbing your attention, making you sit up and listen with rapture is another form of validation changes are moving in the correct direction .

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    Re: EtherREGEN on the way!

    Quote Originally Posted by Willco View Post
    I've followed all the talk about the EtherRegen both at AS (Audiophile Style) and ASR ( Armin's Audio Science Review). Despite some of the reactions at ASR being hostile and juvenile, I think they raise important issues about the state of AudioNervosastan.

    ....

    The user reports at AS are bordering on ecstatic.
    Not all the user reports were ecstatic. Some were and some were similar to "there was an improvement/I like it."

    When you did your testing did you remove the other switches and Gigafoil? I am asking since those devices could be doing some of the same things that the EtherREGEN is supposed to be doing. Thus, for you, the eR could be redundant.

    I bought an eR and it replaced a standard switch. I felt that the noise floor was lowered. It wasn't night and day but I plan on keeping it. I also have a very simple setup (server PC to eR to Sonore endpoint).
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    Re: EtherREGEN on the way!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingrex View Post
    Did Amirm test for ground leaks /loops. Did he test for smps noise, in all ways it may manifest itself. Wilcono is right when he said Amirm did "some" test. But did he do all test.

    I sometimes find a change as simple as a switch may not jump out as different. Yet I may notice in a couple days I'm playing familiar tracks at a click or 2 higher on my preamp. Each click is 1 db on my preamp, Maybe I notice a sense of fatigue has left. Or, as I start comparing different sources they sound more and more similar. Blind test is one thing. Songs grabbing your attention, making you sit up and listen with rapture is another form of validation changes are moving in the correct direction .
    Armin can't test for the passage of high-impedance leakage currents between different Ethernet switches because he doesn't have the test equipment. AFAIK, only John Swenson has the test equipment to measure this that has an audible impact on clock phase noise.

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    Re: EtherREGEN on the way!

    Quote Originally Posted by dminches View Post
    Not all the user reports were ecstatic. Some were and some were similar to "there was an improvement/I like it."

    When you did your testing did you remove the other switches and Gigafoil? I am asking since those devices could be doing some of the same things that the EtherREGEN is supposed to be doing. Thus, for you, the eR could be redundant.

    I bought an eR and it replaced a standard switch. I felt that the noise floor was lowered. It wasn't night and day but I plan on keeping it. I also have a very simple setup (server PC to eR to Sonore endpoint).
    Check back with us once you have 150-200 hours on it.

    My ER has resulted in a notable and audible reduction in the noise floor and overall improvement in the sound quality of my digital streaming front end, and I am using a Gigafoil-comparable device for optical isolation, the Sonore Optical Module, at the front end of the chain where the server and router reside in the bedroom/study.

    As soon as I installed the ER, I could hear things in my system I had simply not heard before, e.g. secondary sound reflections off the opposite wall in the recording studio. As my ER has gotten over 200 hours on it now, there is a notable improvement in the detail, transparency, naturalness of instruments and vocals, and a concomitant improvement in hall or recording venue ambience cues, spatiality, imaging precision, depth and width and instrumental detail, texture and tone color.

    To sum up, my system has never sounded better and has become very, very compelling and engaging to listen to.

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    Re: EtherREGEN on the way!

    Quote Originally Posted by dminches View Post
    Not all the user reports were ecstatic. Some were and some were similar to "there was an improvement/I like it."

    When you did your testing did you remove the other switches and Gigafoil? I am asking since those devices could be doing some of the same things that the EtherREGEN is supposed to be doing. Thus, for you, the eR could be redundant.

    I bought an eR and it replaced a standard switch. I felt that the noise floor was lowered. It wasn't night and day but I plan on keeping it. I also have a very simple setup (server PC to eR to Sonore endpoint).
    That's a good point. I should have mentioned that. So they may indeed be redundant to each other.

    I primarily tested: Cisco switch > ethernet > gigafoil > server
    to ---------------------------------- -------------eRegen ----------------
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    Re: EtherREGEN on the way!

    Quote Originally Posted by Willco View Post
    That's a good point. I should have mentioned that. So they may indeed be redundant to each other.

    I primarily tested: Cisco switch > ethernet > gigafoil > server
    to ---------------------------------- -------------eRegen ----------------
    Willco, Uptone recommends the EtherREGEN be the last device before connecting to your network Bridge, streamer or Ethernet-capable DAC. I think that's your configuration, but I'm not sure from your schematic above.

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    Re: EtherREGEN on the way!

    Quote Originally Posted by Puma Cat View Post
    Check back with us once you have 150-200 hours on it.
    I have well over 200 hours. Again, I really like it and it has improved my sound. It is also hard to do exact comparisons with and without since other things have changed. Maybe one day I will pull it to really see what it is doing.
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    Re: EtherREGEN on the way!

    Quote Originally Posted by Willco View Post
    That's a good point. I should have mentioned that. So they may indeed be redundant to each other.

    I primarily tested: Cisco switch > ethernet > gigafoil > server
    to ---------------------------------- -------------eRegen ----------------
    I thought someone else in the Uptone Audio thread also had a gigafoil and said that the eR made a much bigger difference when it wasn't in the chain.
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    Re: EtherREGEN on the way!

    Yes, it is. Just before the server > dac.
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    EtherREGEN on the way!

    Doesnít Uptone provide 30 days return policy? If so, itís relatively risk free to try, isnít it.

    Iím hoping I can use this not only for the DAC but for my appletv as well. Gigafoil only has one output which goes to my DAC. I will try with & without Gigafoil and before & after Gigafoil as well when it arrives in January.

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    Re: EtherREGEN on the way!

    Bottom line, the difference has to be audible.

    I use the same reference tracks over and over and comfortable with my ability to determine what I hear.

    I will admit, sometimes at first listening I have fooled myself not following my rule of different or better and it does not come out until a day or so later.

    This just recently happened unrelated to a switch and I reverted back to original configuration - with all this being said, there is also a time to leave well enough alone, and I canít believe I just said that EtherREGEN on the way!


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    Re: EtherREGEN on the way!

    As fate might have it, my gigafoil stopped working the day I planned to ship the eR off to the Netherlands. So, I decided to hook the eR in again and this time run fiber out of it's sfp port. I had noticed an improvement in clarity when I tested fiber out of the eR before and had planned to run fiber out of the Cisco switch, but their proprietary sfp modules are expensive...

    So anyway, everything sounds great as is. I'm not going to spend any more time trying to figure what's what as I also just added an Uberbuss (to replace a ps audio p12 regenerator) so that's having a positive influence as well.
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    Re: EtherREGEN on the way!

    Quote Originally Posted by Willco View Post
    As fate might have it, my gigafoil stopped working the day I planned to ship the eR off to the Netherlands. So, I decided to hook the eR in again and this time run fiber out of it's sfp port. I had noticed an improvement in clarity when I tested fiber out of the eR before and had planned to run fiber out of the Cisco switch, but their proprietary sfp modules are expensive...

    So anyway, everything sounds great as is. I'm not going to spend any more time trying to figure what's what as I also just added an Uberbuss (to replace a ps audio p12 regenerator) so that's having a positive influence as well.
    Iím sorry to hear that G/F failed.

    Do you think it was some type of surge?


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    Re: EtherREGEN on the way!

    I desire to thank everyone who participated in this set of posts. It just greatly influenced my next purchase. Many thanks.
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    Re: EtherREGEN on the way!

    Quote Originally Posted by Puma Cat View Post
    Check back with us once you have 150-200 hours on it.

    My ER has resulted in a notable and audible reduction in the noise floor and overall improvement in the sound quality of my digital streaming front end, and I am using a Gigafoil-comparable device for optical isolation, the Sonore Optical Module, at the front end of the chain where the server and router reside in the bedroom/study.

    As soon as I installed the ER, I could hear things in my system I had simply not heard before, e.g. secondary sound reflections off the opposite wall in the recording studio. As my ER has gotten over 200 hours on it now, there is a notable improvement in the detail, transparency, naturalness of instruments and vocals, and a concomitant improvement in hall or recording venue ambience cues, spatiality, imaging precision, depth and width and instrumental detail, texture and tone color.

    To sum up, my system has never sounded better and has become very, very compelling and engaging to listen to.
    I don't use a Gigafoil (I had a Gisa isolator, but did not put it back in). Pretty much my impression of improvements as well. The only other isolation device is on the first ethernet out of the cable modem. I did a secondary change a couple weeks after getting the etherRegen in my system. I changed to optical from switch to etherRegen. I did not notice a difference with that system change.
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    I own both AQvox SE And etherREGEN switch. Sadly to say: etherREGEN does not improve anything. It just run very hot. Thatís it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vutranchitam View Post
    I own both AQvox SE And etherREGEN switch. Sadly to say: etherREGEN does not improve anything. It just run very hot. Thatís it.
    Not surprised. What about the AQVox SE?


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    Aqvox SE did improve the SQ comparing to the normal switch but not at the level of Ansuz powerswitch D2 which i had chance to try in my system.

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    The Ether Regen will also improve the sound over a Best Buy switch. It comes down to budget and how far do you want to take it.
    I never liked the idea of stacking in series any component. There are cases where it works. My personal belief is buy the "one" that best suits your situation and budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vutranchitam View Post
    I own both AQvox SE And etherREGEN switch. Sadly to say: etherREGEN does not improve anything. It just run very hot. Thatís it.
    If you're open to sharing it, I'd welcome seeing a diagram or plan of how you're using the Ethernet switch in your system.

    If you have had your ER for less than 30 days, you can return it for a full refund, no questions asked.

    We just had Alex Crespi on as our guest speaker at out SFAS meeting this Saturday, and Alex mentioned that of over 1500 ERs sold to date, only 5 have been returned.

    That is a satisfied customer proportion of 99.7% (to date; Alex is getting ready to ship out 250 more next week).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingrex View Post
    The Ether Regen will also improve the sound over a Best Buy switch. It comes down to budget and how far do you want to take it.
    I never liked the idea of stacking in series any component. There are cases where it works. My personal belief is buy the "one" that best suits your situation and budget.
    Acc. to Hans Beekhuyzen, the EtherREGEN is also better than the SOtM Ethernet switch, which he compared it to, and which costs quite a bit more. Link here:

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    Quote Originally Posted by vutranchitam View Post
    Aqvox SE did improve the SQ comparing to the normal switch but not at the level of Ansuz powerswitch D2 which i had chance to try in my system.
    It should be good for...$6000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puma Cat View Post
    It should be good for...$6000.
    My god the Ansuz is $6k. I can't imagine spending like that. But hey, some people have front pocket money like that.

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    $6k for a switch? wow.

    Best switch? No switch!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Puma Cat View Post
    If you're open to sharing it, I'd welcome seeing a diagram or plan of how you're using the Ethernet switch in your system.

    If you have had your ER for less than 30 days, you can return it for a full refund, no questions asked.

    We just had Alex Crespi on as our guest speaker at out SFAS meeting this Saturday, and Alex mentioned that of over 1500 ERs sold to date, only 5 have been returned.

    That is a satisfied customer proportion of 99.7% (to date; Alex is getting ready to ship out 250 more next week).

    I bought ER switch after using AQvox for a while and believe better switch could improve my streaming SQ.
    Just for your information i am using Avantgarde Mezzo XD, Wooden Amp, Vivaldi One + Clock, Taralabs Grandmaster Evolution speaker cable.
    My diagram is Router > AQvox > (Roon Nucleus+ & Vivaldi One) All using Nordost Heimdall Ethernet cable.
    Then i bought ER and put it in between AQVox and Vivaldi One.
    Sound didnít improve at first time comparing to my first use of Aqvox. Then i use it for a while and remove ER from the chain. You know what, i heard my SQ is much better without ER.
    Last edited by vutranchitam; July 13, 2020 at 01:11 AM. Reason: Add quote

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    $6k for a switch? wow.

    Best switch? No switch!


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    Plus their 9250$ Ethernet cable, MQA album now sounds better than my same SACD album on my Vivaldi One with Clock. How come? I just canít believe and does not mean to promote any brand here. Just a pure customer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    $6k for a switch? wow.

    Best switch? No switch!


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    $6k for a switch? wow.

    Best switch? No switch!


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    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    Agreed. I don't understand why people bother to complicate their digital rigs and think that somehow it will sound better. KISS.
    Yeah. Agree too until i tried and it does sound better. I did return it and still looking for the answer.

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    Top of the Ansuz line is Power Switch D-TC Supreme $14,400.00. For a network switch.
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    I use a switch. I have found, keeping the burdon off the Modem and Router greatly step up their performance. There are also particular modem and routers that work best with audio. My router is also my home wifi. And it only has 4 or so output. Not enough for my entire home.
    I was one of the first switch purchasers when I bought The Linear Solution. I very much heard an improvemet when Adrian brought his unit here. I use a switch because overall it improves the sound, as well as handles distributing ethernet to the rest of the house.

    If you want to bag on multiple devices and believe in keeping the signal pure, then why put a Gigafoil in front of your server. You do because it works. And darned if that isn't even a audio specific device that has to process the signal twice as it converts from erhernet to optical and back again..
    And then you ask, why would the switch in front of the Gigafoil matter if the packets have been rexlocked by the Gigafoil. But the switch still matters.

    This appears to be one thread with a couple unhappy users. There are other Etherregen threads with very happy users. Read Audiogon Forums. If only 5 have been returned and very few are ever for sale, that says something. My guess, not having used this brand is it works. If you don't have an audio grade switch its going to improve the sound. There are other switches out there far less than $6k that also work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vutranchitam View Post
    Yeah. Agree too until i tried and it does sound better. I did return it and still looking for the answer.
    Then go buy it again. Problem solved
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    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    Then go buy it again. Problem solved
    Thank for your great advice.

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    I know the name includes "switch" but it's not just a switch.

    I wonder if Joe ever got his, I didn't see any comments after mentioning he would get one.
    I received mine beginning of July. I asked Uptone about the USB gizmo, Alex advised ACS10 has very good USB output but my config would benefit from the ER.

    I am using an Ethernet bridge to get to my ACS10 from where my router is located. I'm not a tech guy so I went with the type that plugs into the AC outlet.

    I took the Ethernet cable into the A side and ran the B side to my ACS10.

    I noticed a difference right away. I'm not sure how many hours I have on the unit at this point. Myobservations were similar to Pumacat. My bass had more punch and went deeper, highs were more prominent while being smoother and more detail. On Ella's Fine and Mellow you could really hear the reverberations more. Without the ER things seem a bit thicker but with it you realize things may seem thinner but you are hearing more detail, I suspect this effect is the removal of distortions.
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    I forgot to mention another improvement was in what I guess is timing, the songs seem to have a better sense of rhythm or coherency. You get more envolved with what you are hearing.
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    V. I don't get it either. It sounds better so you returned it???? I get not spending $6k. If you would, how good was the Ansuz? Was it stunning. Was it ok. Was it just slightly better than the etherregen. What did you hear. What were the perceived improvement.
    What about a gigafoil. Have you tried one of those.

    Also, what modem and router do you use, as well as which linear PS is feeding those devices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vutranchitam View Post
    I bought ER switch after using AQvox for a while and believe better switch could improve my streaming SQ.
    Just for your information i am using Avantgarde Mezzo XD, Wooden Amp, Vivaldi One + Clock, Taralabs Grandmaster Evolution speaker cable.
    My diagram is Router > AQvox > (Roon Nucleus+ & Vivaldi One) All using Nordost Heimdall Ethernet cable.
    Then i bought ER and put it in between AQVox and Vivaldi One.
    Sound didn’t improve at first time comparing to my first use of Aqvox. Then i use it for a while and remove ER from the chain. You know what, i heard my SQ is much better without ER.
    I would have recommended replacing the AQVOX switch only with the EtherREGEN, there's no need to run two switches in series. Did you try it that way? I don't understand why you put another switch in between an Ethernet switch and your Vivaldi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingrex View Post
    V. I don't get it either. It sounds better so you returned it???? I get not spending $6k. If you would, how good was the Ansuz? Was it stunning. Was it ok. Was it just slightly better than the etherregen. What did you hear. What were the perceived improvement.
    What about a gigafoil. Have you tried one of those.

    Also, what modem and router do you use, as well as which linear PS is feeding those devices.
    The GigaFoil is a fiber media isolator, Rex, the EtherREGEN is an Ethernet switch. They do different things.

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    Thank for your great advice.
    What did you expect? You had it, you loved it, you returned it, and now you miss it.
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    Why so serious Mark, it's only an Audio forum of audiophiles having fun discussing.
    You sound like a storm ...

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