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Thread: Done with Synology
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August 20, 2021, 08:43 PM #1
Done with Synology
Turned on by Synology 1019 today after being off for 2 months while we were away and got the flashing blue power button. This is the 3rd unit I have had. All have had motherboard failures.
I have heard good things about Qnap. I need a replacement 5 bay NAS. It will be used with my Small Green Computer, SonicTransporter I9.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.Synology 1019D+ - SGC Sonictransporter I9 w Roon/HQ Player- UltraRendu- PBD Stream IF to Playback Designs MPS5 via fiber optic - ARC 40th Anniversary Pre - ARC 610 T's - Martin Logan CLX's - 4 Martin Logan Depth i Subs - Shunyata Hydra, DIY PCOCC interconnects, speaker cables and power cords with Furutech terminations. Blue Jeans CAT 6's. Acoustically treated room with one permanent chair.
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August 20, 2021, 09:44 PM #2
Re: Done with Synology
Not good. I recently setup a Synology NAS. I’m not using it very much other than for music storage purposes.
I’ve read that QNAP are very good. But, with anything electronic, things can and do happen.
Good luck._______________
Mike
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August 20, 2021, 10:48 PM #3
Re: Done with Synology
QNAP fanless HS-453DX.
Peter Lie
LUMIN Firmware Lead
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August 21, 2021, 03:01 AM #4
Re: Done with Synology
I have been using Synology for 10+ years and never had a single failure.
Adam
Speakers: Magico M3
Amp: Dagostino Momentum Stereo
Digital: Lampi Horizon + Lampi DSD Komputer
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August 21, 2021, 09:38 AM #5
Re: Done with Synology
Hasn't QNAP had problems with malware infestations? Are those completely cured?
Rob
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August 21, 2021, 10:06 AM #6
Re: Done with Synology
Heck I have an older Synology DS413, ( purchased late 2012) and its been working without a hiccup,
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August 21, 2021, 10:19 AM #7
Re: Done with Synology
I have my Synology DS716+ for over 5 years also without a single glitch
Main System - Lumin U2, Modwright LS36.5 DM Preamp, VTV Purifi 1ET-7040SA with tube buffer, EMM Labs DAC 2X (ver. 2), Torus RM-20, Thiel CS 3.7s, 2 Rel S/812 subs
Back-up 1 - Premium Audio mini Gan Amp, Oppo 103D, 2 Richard Gray cond, Selah SA-2s, Sumiko S5 sub, Teac UD-503 DAC, Carver (modded) C-9
Back-up 2 - Onkyo TX-NR797, Panasonic DP-UB820, Vansevers cond, B&W P6s, PowerSoundAudio S1500 sub
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August 21, 2021, 10:26 AM #8
Re: Done with Synology
I've had 2 fail. As an additional layer of security, I have it auto sync to Dropbox. The professional version of Dropbox costs me $775 a year. But it's good insurance for over 4TB of music.
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkPreamp/Digital: Meitner MA3
HT Processor: Bryston SP3
Amps: Bryston 14b3, Bryston 4b3
Speakers: Kef Reference 5, Kef Reference 4c
Sub: REL Carbon Special
Power: Shunyata Denali, Bryston BIT15
Wires: Wireworld Silver Eclipse XLR & SC, Ethernet - WW Platinum USB
Other: Stillpoint Ultra SS, ISO-Acoustics ISO Pucks
-Kyle
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August 21, 2021, 11:08 AM #9
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August 21, 2021, 11:37 AM #10
Re: Done with Synology
Mine isn't open to the internet/remote sign on. The only external connection is a link to Dropbox.
I keep personal info on there, so would never allow a remote sign in.
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkPreamp/Digital: Meitner MA3
HT Processor: Bryston SP3
Amps: Bryston 14b3, Bryston 4b3
Speakers: Kef Reference 5, Kef Reference 4c
Sub: REL Carbon Special
Power: Shunyata Denali, Bryston BIT15
Wires: Wireworld Silver Eclipse XLR & SC, Ethernet - WW Platinum USB
Other: Stillpoint Ultra SS, ISO-Acoustics ISO Pucks
-Kyle
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August 21, 2021, 12:11 PM #11
Re: Done with Synology
Just an comment that one cannot draw any meaningful or statistically valid inferences about a product's quality for binary quality attributes e.g. Good/Bad or Pass/Fail with the small sample sizes discussed here.
Using the formula, P(x)= nCxpx(1-p)n-x
Where:
n = sample size
x = item of interest
p = probability or proportion defective,
to have 95% Confidence and 90% Reliability in finding a Pass/Fail defect in 1 unit, you need to have a minimum of 47 samples to draw any statistically valid inference about a product being Pass/Fail or Good/Bad.
For the 7 failures as discussed in this thread, you need a sample size of 131.
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August 21, 2021, 12:22 PM #12
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Re: Done with Synology
I've got over 50TB of music in my Synology box. Has worked with no problem for a decade. How does Dropbox auto sync work? For $775 a year will it back up 50TB? My upload speed is about 8Mbps. Does that mean it will take 6,000,000 seconds to upload (about 2-3 months) or have I got the math wrong? Thanks, Larry
PS. I have two complete backups stored on external hard drives - one stored at home and one stored in safe deposit boxes at my bank. The bank storage is inconvenient, and not updated as frequently as I would like.Analog-VPIClassic3-3DArm,Lyra Skala+MiyajimaZeroMono,2xAmpex ATR-102,Otari MX5050B2, Merrill Trident Tape Preamp, Herron VTPH-2A&BottleheadPhonoPre,
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August 21, 2021, 12:35 PM #13
Re: Done with Synology
Preamp/Digital: Meitner MA3
HT Processor: Bryston SP3
Amps: Bryston 14b3, Bryston 4b3
Speakers: Kef Reference 5, Kef Reference 4c
Sub: REL Carbon Special
Power: Shunyata Denali, Bryston BIT15
Wires: Wireworld Silver Eclipse XLR & SC, Ethernet - WW Platinum USB
Other: Stillpoint Ultra SS, ISO-Acoustics ISO Pucks
-Kyle
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August 21, 2021, 12:41 PM #14
Re: Done with Synology
Thanks Peter, I am hoping to be able to use the 5-4TB drives that are currently in the Synology. I have 4-6TB of music currently on them. I don't remember what Raid level I set the 1019 for originally.
I will look at other Qnap units and see what I find.
Thanks to other for their input.
My first Synology was a batch that had bad Intel motherboards. When that one failed I sent it back and they sent me a new one. When that one failed I contacted them again and asked if there was a different motherboard in the replacement. They told me no just the original. They offered me another replacement and I declined. I purchased a newer Synology unit that i figured had a different board.
This is a rhetorical question but, why would a company put parts known to be problematic in a piece of electronics and send them to customers?Synology 1019D+ - SGC Sonictransporter I9 w Roon/HQ Player- UltraRendu- PBD Stream IF to Playback Designs MPS5 via fiber optic - ARC 40th Anniversary Pre - ARC 610 T's - Martin Logan CLX's - 4 Martin Logan Depth i Subs - Shunyata Hydra, DIY PCOCC interconnects, speaker cables and power cords with Furutech terminations. Blue Jeans CAT 6's. Acoustically treated room with one permanent chair.
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August 21, 2021, 01:50 PM #15
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Re: Done with Synology
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Dig Rip-Pyramix,IzotopeRX3Adv,MykerinosCard,PacificMicroso nicsModel2 AD
Dig Play-Lampi Horizon, mch NADAC Roon/HQPlayer,Oppo105
Electronics-DoshiPre,CJ MET1mchPre,Cary2A3monoamps
Speakers-AvantgardeDuosLR,3SolosC,LR,RR
Other-512 Engineering Tim Marutani Symmetrical Power IsoTrans and cables,AudioDiskVinylCleaner,
Music-2.3KR2Rtapes,1.5KCD's,500SACDs,60TBripped files
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August 21, 2021, 02:17 PM #16
Re: Done with Synology
Rob
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Adona rack, Stillpoints, IsoPods, ASC, GIK Acoustics accessories
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August 21, 2021, 02:44 PM #17
Re: Done with Synology
Preamp/Digital: Meitner MA3
HT Processor: Bryston SP3
Amps: Bryston 14b3, Bryston 4b3
Speakers: Kef Reference 5, Kef Reference 4c
Sub: REL Carbon Special
Power: Shunyata Denali, Bryston BIT15
Wires: Wireworld Silver Eclipse XLR & SC, Ethernet - WW Platinum USB
Other: Stillpoint Ultra SS, ISO-Acoustics ISO Pucks
-Kyle
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August 21, 2021, 04:03 PM #18
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August 21, 2021, 04:04 PM #19
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August 21, 2021, 09:25 PM #20
Re: Done with Synology
Synology 1019D+ - SGC Sonictransporter I9 w Roon/HQ Player- UltraRendu- PBD Stream IF to Playback Designs MPS5 via fiber optic - ARC 40th Anniversary Pre - ARC 610 T's - Martin Logan CLX's - 4 Martin Logan Depth i Subs - Shunyata Hydra, DIY PCOCC interconnects, speaker cables and power cords with Furutech terminations. Blue Jeans CAT 6's. Acoustically treated room with one permanent chair.
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August 26, 2021, 06:26 AM #21
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August 26, 2021, 10:11 AM #22
Re: Done with Synology
And now a happy update.
I did an internet search and found direction to determine where the problem might be. Though it didn't tell me what actually happened I do have the NAS up and working again.
The suggestion was:
Remove all storage drives. Then remove the internal hard drive from the Synology.
Turn on the NAS and see if it settles in with the normal constant blue light at the power button. It was on mine.
If that happens turn off the NAS and reinstall the internal hard drive and power up to see if the blue light is constant. Again it was on mine.
This apparently showed that the hard drive and motherboard were functioning properly.
Next reinstall the drives back in the location they were previously. Power up the NAS and wait 5 minutes to see if the blue light is now constant. It was not, still flashing.
I decided to reconnect it to the system and see what happens. it took most of the 5 minutes but the blue light then stayed constantly on and the green light indicator for each storage drive was on.
One thing I probably should have done to begin with was log in to it with Synology Assistant. I had switched from a laptop controlling the system to an iPad and the Synology Assistant Icon was not there to jog my memory. I logged in and the readings said everything was working properly.
I don't understand it but, I guess just a typical anomaly when combining multiple pieces of electronics.
Roon only needed to recover the data relating to the music to allow it to play.
Thanks for the suggestion hopefully it will live a long life.Synology 1019D+ - SGC Sonictransporter I9 w Roon/HQ Player- UltraRendu- PBD Stream IF to Playback Designs MPS5 via fiber optic - ARC 40th Anniversary Pre - ARC 610 T's - Martin Logan CLX's - 4 Martin Logan Depth i Subs - Shunyata Hydra, DIY PCOCC interconnects, speaker cables and power cords with Furutech terminations. Blue Jeans CAT 6's. Acoustically treated room with one permanent chair.
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August 26, 2021, 05:43 PM #23
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Re: Done with Synology
Good thing you were able to resolve it. Hopefully, you did not have to pay for the previous motherboard failures (assuming they were actually failures since it seems as if you just learned of how to do the troubleshooting).
I have been using Drobos for my NAS for over 10 years. Never had equipment issues but did have to replace several bad hard drives which is expected. (Note: From what I read recently the company that makes them appears to be having inventory issues and their product line seems to be shrinking. Both don’t spell good for the future of the company unless promptly resolved.)
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August 26, 2021, 09:59 PM #24
Re: Done with Synology
Hopefully, we all become aware of the dependance on parts from China. I don't mean this to be political just reality of wanting cheap prices.
Synology 1019D+ - SGC Sonictransporter I9 w Roon/HQ Player- UltraRendu- PBD Stream IF to Playback Designs MPS5 via fiber optic - ARC 40th Anniversary Pre - ARC 610 T's - Martin Logan CLX's - 4 Martin Logan Depth i Subs - Shunyata Hydra, DIY PCOCC interconnects, speaker cables and power cords with Furutech terminations. Blue Jeans CAT 6's. Acoustically treated room with one permanent chair.
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August 26, 2021, 10:11 PM #25
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August 27, 2021, 03:55 AM #26
Re: Done with Synology
"Synology Inc. (Chinese: 群暉科技; pinyin: Qúnhuī Kējì) is a Taiwanese corporation..."
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August 27, 2021, 10:18 AM #27Synology 1019D+ - SGC Sonictransporter I9 w Roon/HQ Player- UltraRendu- PBD Stream IF to Playback Designs MPS5 via fiber optic - ARC 40th Anniversary Pre - ARC 610 T's - Martin Logan CLX's - 4 Martin Logan Depth i Subs - Shunyata Hydra, DIY PCOCC interconnects, speaker cables and power cords with Furutech terminations. Blue Jeans CAT 6's. Acoustically treated room with one permanent chair.
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