Thread: Done with Synology

Turned on by Synology 1019 today after being off for 2 months while we were away and got the flashing blue power button. This is the 3rd unit I have had. All have had motherboard failures.

I have heard good things about Qnap. I need a replacement 5 bay NAS. It will be used with my Small Green Computer, SonicTransporter I9.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Not good. I recently setup a Synology NAS. I’m not using it very much other than for music storage purposes.

I’ve read that QNAP are very good. But, with anything electronic, things can and do happen.

Good luck.

QNAP fanless HS-453DX.

I have been using Synology for 10+ years and never had a single failure.

Hasn't QNAP had problems with malware infestations? Are those completely cured?

Heck I have an older Synology DS413, ( purchased late 2012) and its been working without a hiccup,

Knocking on wood as as type this.

I have my Synology DS716+ for over 5 years also without a single glitch

I've had 2 fail. As an additional layer of security, I have it auto sync to Dropbox. The professional version of Dropbox costs me $775 a year. But it's good insurance for over 4TB of music.


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Originally Posted by rbbert

Hasn't QNAP had problems with malware infestations? Are those completely cured?

NAS is frequently targeted - QNAP and Synology are the two leaders everyone buy, so both of them are targeted. It is safer to not open them to the internet - but everyone do. Otherwise this will never be cured.

Never.

Mine isn't open to the internet/remote sign on. The only external connection is a link to Dropbox.

I keep personal info on there, so would never allow a remote sign in.


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I've got over 50TB of music in my Synology box. Has worked with no problem for a decade. How does Dropbox auto sync work? For $775 a year will it back up 50TB? My upload speed is about 8Mbps. Does that mean it will take 6,000,000 seconds to upload (about 2-3 months) or have I got the math wrong? Thanks, Larry

PS. I have two complete backups stored on external hard drives - one stored at home and one stored in safe deposit boxes at my bank. The bank storage is inconvenient, and not updated as frequently as I would like.

Originally Posted by astrotoy

I've got over 50TB of music in my Synology box. Has worked with no problem for a decade. How does Dropbox auto sync work? For $775 a year will it back up 50TB? My upload speed is about 8Mbps. Does that mean it will take 6,000,000 seconds to upload (about 2-3 months) or have I got the math wrong? Thanks, Larry

PS. I have two complete backups stored on external hard drives - one stored at home and one stored in safe deposit boxes at my bank. The bank storage is inconvenient, and not updated as frequently as I would like.

Dropbox professional is unlimited space.


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Originally Posted by wklie

QNAP fanless HS-453DX.

Thanks Peter, I am hoping to be able to use the 5-4TB drives that are currently in the Synology. I have 4-6TB of music currently on them. I don't remember what Raid level I set the 1019 for originally.

I will look at other Qnap units and see what I find.


Thanks to other for their input.
My first Synology was a batch that had bad Intel motherboards. When that one failed I sent it back and they sent me a new one. When that one failed I contacted them again and asked if there was a different motherboard in the replacement. They told me no just the original. They offered me another replacement and I declined. I purchased a newer Synology unit that i figured had a different board.

This is a rhetorical question but, why would a company put parts known to be problematic in a piece of electronics and send them to customers?

Originally Posted by Phishphan

Dropbox professional is unlimited space.


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Thanks. I checked out Dropbox Professional and found the unlimited was $720 per year for three licenses (the minimum number you can buy for unlimited). I'll see whether any of my friends want to share the licenses. Larry

Originally Posted by Puma Cat

Just an comment that one cannot draw any meaningful or statistically valid inferences about a product's quality for binary quality attributes e.g. Good/Bad or Pass/Fail with the small sample sizes discussed here.

Using the formula, P(x)= nCxpx(1-p)n-x
Where:
n = sample size
x = item of interest
p = probability or proportion defective,

to have 95% Confidence and 90% Reliability in finding a Pass/Fail defect in 1 unit, you need to have a minimum of 47 samples to draw any statistically valid inference about a product being Pass/Fail or Good/Bad.

For the 7 failures as discussed in this thread, you need a sample size of 131.

In general this (too small sample size and/or improper statistical tool) is true for almost everything discussed in this and other audiophile forums

Originally Posted by astrotoy

Thanks. I checked out Dropbox Professional and found the unlimited was $720 per year for three licenses (the minimum number you can buy for unlimited). I'll see whether any of my friends want to share the licenses. Larry

The licenses are all going to go to your account, so you'll have access to each others files


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Originally Posted by Puma Cat

Money.

yup, that is why I framed the sentence the way I did.

Maybe it is my naive nature that people would knowingly deceive or cheat people. I've been in this would for 68 years and I am still baffled by this type of action.

Originally Posted by wklie

QNAP fanless HS-453DX.

There is a pretty large number of online complaints concerning overheating.

And now a happy update.

I did an internet search and found direction to determine where the problem might be. Though it didn't tell me what actually happened I do have the NAS up and working again.

The suggestion was:
Remove all storage drives. Then remove the internal hard drive from the Synology.

Turn on the NAS and see if it settles in with the normal constant blue light at the power button. It was on mine.

If that happens turn off the NAS and reinstall the internal hard drive and power up to see if the blue light is constant. Again it was on mine.

This apparently showed that the hard drive and motherboard were functioning properly.

Next reinstall the drives back in the location they were previously. Power up the NAS and wait 5 minutes to see if the blue light is now constant. It was not, still flashing.

I decided to reconnect it to the system and see what happens. it took most of the 5 minutes but the blue light then stayed constantly on and the green light indicator for each storage drive was on.

One thing I probably should have done to begin with was log in to it with Synology Assistant. I had switched from a laptop controlling the system to an iPad and the Synology Assistant Icon was not there to jog my memory. I logged in and the readings said everything was working properly.

I don't understand it but, I guess just a typical anomaly when combining multiple pieces of electronics.

Roon only needed to recover the data relating to the music to allow it to play.

Thanks for the suggestion hopefully it will live a long life.

Hopefully, we all become aware of the dependance on parts from China. I don't mean this to be political just reality of wanting cheap prices.

"Synology Inc. (Chinese: 群暉科技; pinyin: Qúnhuī Kējì) is a Taiwanese corporation..."

Synology - Wikipedia

Originally Posted by nicoff

What?! You mean we are dependent on parts from China?! Who knew!!

Yes, sorry to be the one to break it to you.