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May 25, 2020, 08:11 PM #1
Cybershaft 10Mhz master clocks, new products at various price points....
FYI to anyone interested in Cybershaft products; in addition to the new higher priced offerings with the option
to utilize either power from the wall or an external linear regulated power supply...
????OCXO ???? OP21A/OP20A
and single output clocks;
????OCXO ???? OP21A-1/OP20A-1
Cybershaft has also just made public on their website lower price options that don't sacrifice great baseline performance;
????OCXO ???? MA????
For non-Japanese speakers...
Open in Google Chrome, look on the list of selections on the left hand page and select
"For Overseas (English)"
will take you to;
For overseas(English)
Any questions, let me know.
You can also send email directly to (note there is only 1 working email address now);
Cybershaft777@yahoo.co.jp. [NEW / ONLY email address that works]
Any questions or problems getting in touch, send me an IM and I'll help wherever I can.Legacy Audio Valor+Wavelet v2, Esoteric S-02 Amps HDPlex 300W, RevAudio Labs DC Umbilical, Esoteric Grandioso P1, P1PSU & dual D1 DACs, Cybershaft Prem Ltd OP21A 10 MHz Clock, Esoteric C-02X, Shunyata Everest 8000 & Altaira SG-NR hubs, Sigma SGC/CGC ground cables, VTX-Ag ground tails, AfterBurner8 duplexes, CSP Inc Q4B, S2B IEC plates, Shunyata Omega CLOCK-50 cables, Tubulus Concentus HDMI, Elrod Master Series Diamond SE & Masters Series Gold Power cords and Statement Gold XLRs, Diamond XLRs & Master Series Diamond XLRs, Shunyata OMEGA QR-s power cable, Anaconda Z-tron XLR, Elrod Statement Gold speaker cables, Adona Zero GX3, GX2, GX racks, Composite Audio CF-2010, Townshend Audio Podiums, HRS DPX Damping Plates, Stillpoints Ultra SS w/Ultra Bases, pArtScience 64-well, 2D QRD 3-inch SpaceArray Diffusors
Travel/Rip: Apple MacBook Pro 16” 2023 M2 Max, 12-core CPU, 38-core GPU, 32 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD for Audirvana+ v3, iTunes, REW Audio Analyzer, dbPowerAmp, DVD Audio Extractor
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May 25, 2020, 09:22 PM #2
Re: Cybershaft 10Mhz master clocks, new products at various price points....
The link editor is making the links appear strange but they do work...
Legacy Audio Valor+Wavelet v2, Esoteric S-02 Amps HDPlex 300W, RevAudio Labs DC Umbilical, Esoteric Grandioso P1, P1PSU & dual D1 DACs, Cybershaft Prem Ltd OP21A 10 MHz Clock, Esoteric C-02X, Shunyata Everest 8000 & Altaira SG-NR hubs, Sigma SGC/CGC ground cables, VTX-Ag ground tails, AfterBurner8 duplexes, CSP Inc Q4B, S2B IEC plates, Shunyata Omega CLOCK-50 cables, Tubulus Concentus HDMI, Elrod Master Series Diamond SE & Masters Series Gold Power cords and Statement Gold XLRs, Diamond XLRs & Master Series Diamond XLRs, Shunyata OMEGA QR-s power cable, Anaconda Z-tron XLR, Elrod Statement Gold speaker cables, Adona Zero GX3, GX2, GX racks, Composite Audio CF-2010, Townshend Audio Podiums, HRS DPX Damping Plates, Stillpoints Ultra SS w/Ultra Bases, pArtScience 64-well, 2D QRD 3-inch SpaceArray Diffusors
Travel/Rip: Apple MacBook Pro 16” 2023 M2 Max, 12-core CPU, 38-core GPU, 32 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD for Audirvana+ v3, iTunes, REW Audio Analyzer, dbPowerAmp, DVD Audio Extractor
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May 25, 2020, 09:39 PM #3
Re: Cybershaft 10Mhz master clocks, new products at various price points....
This may help:
Multiple Output Versions (option to use built in power supply or have model that uses external power supply)'
Model number: UPOCXO-OP21A Model with built-in AC power supply
Model number: UPOCXO-OP21A-D External DC dedicated model
Model number: UPOCXO-OP20A Model with built-in AC power supply
Model number: UPOCXO-OP20A-D External DC dedicated model
Model number: LTPW01P External DC power supply (with panel)
OP'XX" or in this case, OP21A or OP20A is the performance level of the OCXO. OP21 is a touch better in principal than OP20A, differences are minor
Single Output Versions (only use external power supply);
Model number: UPOCXO-OP21A-1 External DC dedicated model
Model number: UPOCXO-OP20A-1 External DC dedicated model
Model number: LTPW01P External DC power supply (with panel)
Single Output / Lower Precision (OP19, 18, 17, 16, 15, 14, 13, see table below on that page rating and price option), this line reads like it is meant to be more economical choice;
Model number: UPOCXO-MA-OPxx External DC dedicated model
Model number: LTPW01P External DC power supply (with cast panel)
There are products (clock distributor) and other prior products.
Note I'm not listing all legacy/prior products above, only the newer ones.
They have a line of products for each need and multiple budgets now.
That's how I read through the plethora of options now available.
Hope this helps...Legacy Audio Valor+Wavelet v2, Esoteric S-02 Amps HDPlex 300W, RevAudio Labs DC Umbilical, Esoteric Grandioso P1, P1PSU & dual D1 DACs, Cybershaft Prem Ltd OP21A 10 MHz Clock, Esoteric C-02X, Shunyata Everest 8000 & Altaira SG-NR hubs, Sigma SGC/CGC ground cables, VTX-Ag ground tails, AfterBurner8 duplexes, CSP Inc Q4B, S2B IEC plates, Shunyata Omega CLOCK-50 cables, Tubulus Concentus HDMI, Elrod Master Series Diamond SE & Masters Series Gold Power cords and Statement Gold XLRs, Diamond XLRs & Master Series Diamond XLRs, Shunyata OMEGA QR-s power cable, Anaconda Z-tron XLR, Elrod Statement Gold speaker cables, Adona Zero GX3, GX2, GX racks, Composite Audio CF-2010, Townshend Audio Podiums, HRS DPX Damping Plates, Stillpoints Ultra SS w/Ultra Bases, pArtScience 64-well, 2D QRD 3-inch SpaceArray Diffusors
Travel/Rip: Apple MacBook Pro 16” 2023 M2 Max, 12-core CPU, 38-core GPU, 32 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD for Audirvana+ v3, iTunes, REW Audio Analyzer, dbPowerAmp, DVD Audio Extractor
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May 26, 2020, 10:03 AM #4
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Re: Cybershaft 10Mhz master clocks, new products at various price points....
Nice. If only you could put them in a Grandioso chassis.
Speakers: Magico M3, ACC, S-SUB | Electronics: Esoteric Grandioso stack | Amplification: Halcro |
Analog cables: Crystal Cable | Digital cables: Shunyata Sigma | Rack: YG Acoustics Rack 1.8
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May 26, 2020, 11:37 AM #5
Re: Cybershaft 10Mhz master clocks, new products at various price points....
Legacy Audio Valor+Wavelet v2, Esoteric S-02 Amps HDPlex 300W, RevAudio Labs DC Umbilical, Esoteric Grandioso P1, P1PSU & dual D1 DACs, Cybershaft Prem Ltd OP21A 10 MHz Clock, Esoteric C-02X, Shunyata Everest 8000 & Altaira SG-NR hubs, Sigma SGC/CGC ground cables, VTX-Ag ground tails, AfterBurner8 duplexes, CSP Inc Q4B, S2B IEC plates, Shunyata Omega CLOCK-50 cables, Tubulus Concentus HDMI, Elrod Master Series Diamond SE & Masters Series Gold Power cords and Statement Gold XLRs, Diamond XLRs & Master Series Diamond XLRs, Shunyata OMEGA QR-s power cable, Anaconda Z-tron XLR, Elrod Statement Gold speaker cables, Adona Zero GX3, GX2, GX racks, Composite Audio CF-2010, Townshend Audio Podiums, HRS DPX Damping Plates, Stillpoints Ultra SS w/Ultra Bases, pArtScience 64-well, 2D QRD 3-inch SpaceArray Diffusors
Travel/Rip: Apple MacBook Pro 16” 2023 M2 Max, 12-core CPU, 38-core GPU, 32 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD for Audirvana+ v3, iTunes, REW Audio Analyzer, dbPowerAmp, DVD Audio Extractor
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May 26, 2020, 11:41 AM #6
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Yes, I know. If I were to upgrade my G02X I would buy a Cybershaft and not G1. But it would need to be out of sight! I bought Sigma Clock-50 long enough to reach should I do that.
Speakers: Magico M3, ACC, S-SUB | Electronics: Esoteric Grandioso stack | Amplification: Halcro |
Analog cables: Crystal Cable | Digital cables: Shunyata Sigma | Rack: YG Acoustics Rack 1.8
| Source: Kaleidescape Premiere (4 x 6TB) | Power: Shunyata Typhon-QR, Everest and Denali
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May 26, 2020, 06:49 PM #7
Re: Cybershaft 10Mhz master clocks, new products at various price points....
I bet the Esoteric chassis would make them 3-4x more expensive.
Those are trully state of the art clocks at affordable prices.Adam
Speakers: Magico M3
Amp: Dagostino Momentum Stereo
Digital: Lampi Horizon + Lampi DSD Komputer
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May 26, 2020, 07:09 PM #8
Re: Cybershaft 10Mhz master clocks, new products at various price points....
I have an OP21
These are the best clocks on the planet (as far as I know)
Thank You Mark, for introducing me to Cybershaft several years ago.
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May 26, 2020, 07:58 PM #9
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Speakers: Magico M3, ACC, S-SUB | Electronics: Esoteric Grandioso stack | Amplification: Halcro |
Analog cables: Crystal Cable | Digital cables: Shunyata Sigma | Rack: YG Acoustics Rack 1.8
| Source: Kaleidescape Premiere (4 x 6TB) | Power: Shunyata Typhon-QR, Everest and Denali
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May 26, 2020, 08:35 PM #10
Re: Cybershaft 10Mhz master clocks, new products at various price points....
Yes, we conducted extensive tests, with several beta testers to determine if using 50 or 75 ohm digital cables had sonic differences when matched to the correct interface. All the cables were built using identical conductors and dielectrics. Only the characteristic impedance and appropriate connectors were different.
The result was that 50 ohm interfaces should have the proper 50 ohm cables for best performance. And 75 ohm interface should be matched to 75 ohm cables.
But even beyond that, the biggest differences between digital cables are the precision of the construction of the cable and the type and quality of the dielectrics.
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May 26, 2020, 08:57 PM #11
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What I found odd was that Esoteric/Mexcel don't build a 50 ohm clock cable when their flagship clock is 50 ohm. The rumored reason being, impedance mis-match doesn't matter for short cables. Which always bothered me. I had the top Esoteric/Mexcel clock cable 7N-DA6100v3 which is 75 ohms. But then Shunyata did Sigma Clock-50 so I bought one of those to try and the improvement over the 7N-DA6100v3 was immediately apparent. So I sold the Mexcel and bought another two Sigma Clock-50. After the Clock-50 revelation I bought Sigma AES-EBU to replace a Mogami cable and that was also a night-and-day difference. Which should lead to my next investment Sigma XLR but I am so heavily invested in Crystal Cable for those that I'll stick with them and save my money for the new Typhon QR. The Denali brought nothing to the party so the next step is to turbo-boost it with your next creation.
Speakers: Magico M3, ACC, S-SUB | Electronics: Esoteric Grandioso stack | Amplification: Halcro |
Analog cables: Crystal Cable | Digital cables: Shunyata Sigma | Rack: YG Acoustics Rack 1.8
| Source: Kaleidescape Premiere (4 x 6TB) | Power: Shunyata Typhon-QR, Everest and Denali
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June 12, 2020, 07:39 PM #12
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Esoteric-Mexcel did build a pure, certified 50ohm cable at one point, the model was the 8N-A2000.
They discontinued it after a few years....many bought it however it was not enough, Many bought the lower priced
75ohm options out there based upon the absolutely flawed assumption that 75ohm cables can be used where 50ohm
is called for and vice versa.
This could not be more wrong. Shunyata commissioned a double-blind study on this exact found several years ago.
5-6 of us who all had different end gear from different vendors all were sent many non-labelled cables, impossible
to tell apart over a multi-month period. When it all was said and done, the common theme in feedback from all
involved was that it did actually make a difference and while you can use a 50ohm (the better spec.) cable where
a 75ohm was called for with few side-effects (note this is not 'none'), there were many downsides and differences
forcing a 75-ohm cable where a 50ohm was called for regardless of length...
I owned 2 of the 8N-A2000 50-ohm cables; they were the best in a long line of 50-ohm cable experiments.
As an aside, these became like unobtanium and were frequently counterfeited.....
When it was all said and done though, the Shunyata SIGMA CLOCK50 when it came out, easily beat the 8N-A2000
in all key categories that caused me to replace the prior reference 50ohm cable with SIGMAs very soon after.Legacy Audio Valor+Wavelet v2, Esoteric S-02 Amps HDPlex 300W, RevAudio Labs DC Umbilical, Esoteric Grandioso P1, P1PSU & dual D1 DACs, Cybershaft Prem Ltd OP21A 10 MHz Clock, Esoteric C-02X, Shunyata Everest 8000 & Altaira SG-NR hubs, Sigma SGC/CGC ground cables, VTX-Ag ground tails, AfterBurner8 duplexes, CSP Inc Q4B, S2B IEC plates, Shunyata Omega CLOCK-50 cables, Tubulus Concentus HDMI, Elrod Master Series Diamond SE & Masters Series Gold Power cords and Statement Gold XLRs, Diamond XLRs & Master Series Diamond XLRs, Shunyata OMEGA QR-s power cable, Anaconda Z-tron XLR, Elrod Statement Gold speaker cables, Adona Zero GX3, GX2, GX racks, Composite Audio CF-2010, Townshend Audio Podiums, HRS DPX Damping Plates, Stillpoints Ultra SS w/Ultra Bases, pArtScience 64-well, 2D QRD 3-inch SpaceArray Diffusors
Travel/Rip: Apple MacBook Pro 16” 2023 M2 Max, 12-core CPU, 38-core GPU, 32 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD for Audirvana+ v3, iTunes, REW Audio Analyzer, dbPowerAmp, DVD Audio Extractor
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June 13, 2020, 07:59 PM #13
Re: Cybershaft 10Mhz master clocks, new products at various price points....
Tried one of these when I had the Grandioso DAC/SACD player. I didn’t really hear a difference.
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Speakers: Kef Reference 5, Kef Reference 4c
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Re: Cybershaft 10Mhz master clocks, new products at various price points....
You didn't hear any difference compared to an Esoteric clock, or no clock?
Speakers: Magico M3, ACC, S-SUB | Electronics: Esoteric Grandioso stack | Amplification: Halcro |
Analog cables: Crystal Cable | Digital cables: Shunyata Sigma | Rack: YG Acoustics Rack 1.8
| Source: Kaleidescape Premiere (4 x 6TB) | Power: Shunyata Typhon-QR, Everest and Denali
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June 13, 2020, 10:24 PM #15
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Nope. Nothing. Had it for a few months before getting rid of Esoteric. For the Esoteric Grandioso money, there’s far better options in my opinion. I’d look to MSB or EMM. Those are the 2 best DACs I’ve ever had the pleasure of hearing, and come in cheaper than the full mono Grandioso set.
Sent from my iPad using TapatalkPreamp/Digital: Meitner MA3
HT Processor: Bryston SP3
Amps: Bryston 14b3, Bryston 4b3
Speakers: Kef Reference 5, Kef Reference 4c
Sub: REL Carbon Special
Power: Shunyata Denali, Bryston BIT15
Wires: Wireworld Silver Eclipse XLR & SC, Ethernet - WW Platinum USB
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I wasn't aware that MSB built a combo SACD/DAC. Which is what you were comparing the Grandioso K1 against, right?
Speakers: Magico M3, ACC, S-SUB | Electronics: Esoteric Grandioso stack | Amplification: Halcro |
Analog cables: Crystal Cable | Digital cables: Shunyata Sigma | Rack: YG Acoustics Rack 1.8
| Source: Kaleidescape Premiere (4 x 6TB) | Power: Shunyata Typhon-QR, Everest and Denali
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June 14, 2020, 10:29 AM #17
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Preamp/Digital: Meitner MA3
HT Processor: Bryston SP3
Amps: Bryston 14b3, Bryston 4b3
Speakers: Kef Reference 5, Kef Reference 4c
Sub: REL Carbon Special
Power: Shunyata Denali, Bryston BIT15
Wires: Wireworld Silver Eclipse XLR & SC, Ethernet - WW Platinum USB
Other: Stillpoint Ultra SS, ISO-Acoustics ISO Pucks
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Re: Cybershaft 10Mhz master clocks, new products at various price points....
Tough comparison to put the DAC section of an Esoteric disc player against a dedicated MSB/EMM DAC. Not really comparing apples with apples.
Speakers: Magico M3, ACC, S-SUB | Electronics: Esoteric Grandioso stack | Amplification: Halcro |
Analog cables: Crystal Cable | Digital cables: Shunyata Sigma | Rack: YG Acoustics Rack 1.8
| Source: Kaleidescape Premiere (4 x 6TB) | Power: Shunyata Typhon-QR, Everest and Denali
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June 14, 2020, 04:15 PM #19
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Legacy Audio Valor+Wavelet v2, Esoteric S-02 Amps HDPlex 300W, RevAudio Labs DC Umbilical, Esoteric Grandioso P1, P1PSU & dual D1 DACs, Cybershaft Prem Ltd OP21A 10 MHz Clock, Esoteric C-02X, Shunyata Everest 8000 & Altaira SG-NR hubs, Sigma SGC/CGC ground cables, VTX-Ag ground tails, AfterBurner8 duplexes, CSP Inc Q4B, S2B IEC plates, Shunyata Omega CLOCK-50 cables, Tubulus Concentus HDMI, Elrod Master Series Diamond SE & Masters Series Gold Power cords and Statement Gold XLRs, Diamond XLRs & Master Series Diamond XLRs, Shunyata OMEGA QR-s power cable, Anaconda Z-tron XLR, Elrod Statement Gold speaker cables, Adona Zero GX3, GX2, GX racks, Composite Audio CF-2010, Townshend Audio Podiums, HRS DPX Damping Plates, Stillpoints Ultra SS w/Ultra Bases, pArtScience 64-well, 2D QRD 3-inch SpaceArray Diffusors
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