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April 6, 2013, 07:19 AM #1Junior Member
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Apple for Music server?
I am curious how many are using a Apple computer as a music server, and if so what software?
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April 6, 2013, 09:48 AM #2Senior Member
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Mike,
Originally Posted by Audioi
I recently had help from E. putting together a music server, I'll post some pics soon I get home.Dewey,
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April 6, 2013, 10:13 AM #3Senior Member
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No but I'm interested...I do stream radio and MOG from my iPad and MacBook Pro though.
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April 6, 2013, 02:54 PM #4Senior Member
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Dewey you aren't using Apple except as what it should be, though - a glorified remote control (and handheld porn viewer).
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April 6, 2013, 10:50 PM #5Senior Member
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Guess as a tribute I must load some Kate pics on the server Originally Posted by -E-
Dewey you aren't using Apple except as what it should be, though - a glorified remote control (and handheld porn viewer).
Dewey,
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April 6, 2013, 11:02 PM #6Audioshark
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Mike - as much as I hate to admit this (given that we are an all Mac home), I recently conducted a Mac Mini vs CAPS 3.0 Carbon shootout. The CAPS 3.0 Carbon was the clear winner.
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Mike, all you do is download and install JRiver Media Center and JRemote for your ipad/iphone and you are all set to control your music. Note that the internal storage of the CAPS 3.0 is limited (for a reason) and you are best to store your music on an external USB drive or NAS Drive (such as a Synology NAS).
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I am using a Mac Mini, into a Berkeley USB, into Berkeley Alpha DAC 2. Software is Amarra. Very happy with my setup. Beats any of my earlier digital front ends, by a wide margin.
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2010 Mac Mini with iTunes. I have Amarra and BitPerfect, but they are rarely use them.
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I'm using a Mac Mini w/Audirvana+. I've tweaked the OS using some great tips I've found on the 'net, including some from Mike (HiFiGuy528). My files are loaded on an Oyen Digital HDD. I've been thinking about going the CAPS 3.0 route after hearing how much Mike likes it. It may be my summer project...
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I half wonder if I had a newer Mac mini, made some of those tweaks you mention and tried the new JRiver for Mac, that the result would have been closer. Ted and another guy, told me it still isn't close. My gut feeling is that the secret sauce is in the SoTM USB card. That thing is impressive. It can have its own power supply! Originally Posted by dlb2
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I'm happy with my current computer set-up. I'm a Mac guy at heart, although I do have a pc running Win7, and love the ease of use of everything. But if the CAPS build sounds better, well, enough said. Maybe there should be a separate CAPS 3.0 thread...
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I'm a Mac guy also and am happy to say that I don't own a windows machine! Originally Posted by dlb2
I'm happy with my current computer set-up. I'm a Mac guy at heart, although I do have a pc running Win7, and love the ease of use of everything. But if the CAPS build sounds better, well, enough said. Maybe there should be a separate CAPS 3.0 thread...Too Many Toy's Not Enough Time!
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Mike, you're not missing anything...except all those updates! Originally Posted by Audioi
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+1 to that. Here's what I saw today: Originally Posted by dlb2
Mike, you're not missing anything...except all those updates!
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Windows Crash.jpgMy Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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Our web guy dislikes windows also, says a new windows computer takes a day to setup, 15 minutes to enter personal stuff and a complete day of update after update. But on the positive side windows is starting to mimic the look of Mac.
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I've been playing with this build E. helped me, and so far it's been working flawlessly. It literally took me about 2hrs from installing the OS7 to complete all updates..
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Dewey,
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Mike , I think you need to use a grounding spike whenever you go near a pc, they don't like you Originally Posted by Mike
After seeing you post that for the second time I'll pass.
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I use and iMac with the Library stored on a Apple Time Capsule.
I use both a Sonos Connect and a AppleTV. I plan on using a MacBook to a USB DAC and some sort of add on software to iTunes to play better than CD stuff.
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Hey Bill, welcome to the pool.
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Ah familiar friends Originally Posted by bzr
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Re: Apple for Music server?
From what I read, I'm with you on the SoTM USB card being the culprit for the CAPS performance. Originally Posted by Mike
These cards are Mac compatible, but unfortunately not many people tried them on a Mac Pro. It'd be great to know how they work together before purchasing one of those big Mac Pros... I'm also allergic to Windows, so a CAPS is the absolutely last resort
I'm currently using a Mac mini with Audirvana+, and the results are very good.
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Re: Apple for Music server?
LOOK WHO'S TALKING...Check that Avatar...LOL..Love it Originally Posted by -E-
Dewey you aren't using Apple except as what it should be, though - a glorified remote control (and handheld porn viewer).MAIN RIG: Equipment: Marantz SR4023 as Pre / Velleman K4040 Tube Power Amp / Yamaha M65 Power Amp / Polk Monitor 70's with Polk Sub / ClearAudio Concept table with Musical Surroundings Phonomena II Phono Stage and ClearAudio Concept MC cart /Pioneer PL500 TT with AT440MLa
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Re: Apple for Music server?
Keeley doesn't do porn, though... :\
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Re: Apple for Music server?
I'm using an older (2010?) MacBook Pro with 8GB RAM and 256GB SSD with iTunes and Pure Music, and it sounds great. I have not compared it to CAPS, but increasing the RAM and swapping the SSD made an enormous difference.
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Re: Apple for Music server?
I use a 2011 MacBook Air running Decibel, with whatever the maxed out available ram was when I bought it. I may switch to Audirvana as I liked it a lot, though it wasn't that different sonically from Decibel. I tried JRiver this weekend and wasn't blown away by it, but it was ok. I thought it to be a step down sonically but it wasn't any sort of scientific comparison, just a general observation after playing with it for a day.
I run USB to a April Music Stello U3 USB converter/reclocker, then AES/EBU to my Berkeley Audio Alpha DAC. Honestly, running Decibel it doesn't seem to matter what else my computer is doing to a point. I surf the internet, do some photo editing, etc, and it just keeps going with the sound unaffected. I run it in HOG mode/exclusive access.
The sound with the above setup is nothing short of phenomenal. To me, anyway. Sounds every bit as good as my EMM Labs CDSA playing CD, or when running high-res, the CDSA playing SACD. I can't stream DSD, however, do to my DAC...but I can live with that.1: VPI Classic w/Shelter 501 & Lenco L-70 with Zyx Yatra, EMM Labs CDSAse, Berkeley Audio Design Alpha DAC, Primare PRE-32 pre, T+A a1530r amp, Harbeth SHL-5 speakers.
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Re: Apple for Music server?
The Berkeley DAC was one of the few I wished I had never sold. It's outstanding.
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