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    Re: CES 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by kevinkwann View Post
    I know the facts. You were misinformed.
    Were you there at CES?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Were you there at CES?


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    Of course.

    You do realize that KT120s and KT150s look nothing alike right? I have to wonder based on the fact you had to ask someone...and were subsequently misinformed afterwards.

    If you want to prove to yourself which tubes were in the CAT Statements, why don't you simply look at a picture, any picture (even your own) to identify the tubes.

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    Re: CES 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by kevinkwann View Post
    Of course.

    You do realize that KT120s and KT150s look nothing alike right? I have to wonder based on the fact you had to ask someone...and were subsequently misinformed afterwards.

    If you want to prove to yourself which tubes were in the CAT Statements, why don't you simply look at a picture, any picture (even your own) to identify the tubes.
    It's odd because I asked someone from Magico if those were KT150's and they said yes. Ok, if you know otherwise, I stand corrected.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    It's odd because I asked someone from Magico if those were KT150's and they said yes. Ok, if you know otherwise, I stand corrected.


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    So do I! Confused by your post I looked at pix I took on Day 1 and Day 3. KT120s...then KT150s. So we're each half right. I should have given you the benefit of the doubt. My apologies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinkwann View Post
    So do I! Confused by your post I looked at pix I took on Day 1 and Day 3. KT120s...then KT150s. So we're each half right. I should have given you the benefit of the doubt. My apologies.
    My photo of the Magico S1 mk2 room. These are definitely KT150's




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    KT150:

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    Re: CES 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by kevinkwann View Post
    So do I! Confused by your post I looked at pix I took on Day 1 and Day 3. KT120s...then KT150s. So we're each half right. I should have given you the benefit of the doubt. My apologies.
    Apology accepted. No worries.

    The point is, the combo sound great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Apology accepted. No worries.

    The point is, the combo sound great.
    Thank you. It sure did! I was blown away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinkwann View Post
    Thank you. It sure did! I was blown away.
    Me too. Did you notice how 3D they sounded? I kept telling people "it's worth the walk to the Mirage!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Me too. Did you notice how 3D they sounded? I kept telling people "it's worth the walk to the Mirage!"
    For me it was the most transparent, 3D sound at the show. I also liked the Aries Cerat system but the presentation was completely different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinkwann View Post
    For me it was the most transparent, 3D sound at the show. I also liked the Aries Cerat system but the presentation was completely different.
    Me too. Did you get a chance to hear the B&W 803D3's, Kharma's (on the 35th floor), Raidho's and some others? Would love to hear your thoughts on the show too. Favorites, biggest surprises and any disappointments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Me too. Did you get a chance to hear the B&W 803D3's, Kharma's (on the 35th floor), Raidho's and some others? Would love to hear your thoughts on the show too. Favorites, biggest surprises and any disappointments.
    Hmm...Cliff Notes version...didn't hear the B&Ws (never liked their presentation so I skipped it), didn't hear the Raidhos, loved the big Kharmas in the Lamm room, enjoyed the Verity Audio Sarastros on Zanden electronics and the mbl 101e mkIIs on mbl electronics. Disappointments? Many. But I'd rather keep my opinions about those to myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Me too. Did you get a chance to hear the B&W 803D3's, Kharma's (on the 35th floor), Raidho's and some others? Would love to hear your thoughts on the show too. Favorites, biggest surprises and any disappointments.
    I heard the new B&W line-up when they were launched in Europe. The tweeter is not too shabby, although it sticks out a bit, and all-in-all I find their sound a bit rough. In my very personal view they are what they have always been: the world's greatest loudspeaker marketing-story, typically way overrated (the previous generation was the world's best selling line-up). And unfortunately the new models look a bit like they had gone to design school at Wharfedale of the past.


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