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January 13, 2022, 09:10 AM #1
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Here's a fantastic MM cartridge that is under the radar
The Nagaoka JT-80BK is fantastic. Smooth, balanced with deep bass. I shot a video of the JT-80bk on my 1200GR. Compared to the 2M Black, the NAG cartridge has detail, but is not overly analytical. The 2m Black, which is also fantastic, sounds a bit "dry" (floabt). I highly recommend checking this cartridge out if you are looking for a MM. Amazon has them around $150-$200 cheaper than other places, plus, you get a great return policy if its not for you. Check out the video and let me know your thoughts
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January 13, 2022, 10:17 AM #2
Re: Here's a fantastic MM cartridge that is under the radar
Any industry affiliation? There is only one review for this cartridge on Amazon and it's your review.
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January 13, 2022, 10:56 AM #3
Re: Here's a fantastic MM cartridge that is under the radar
Nagaoka seem to have a good reputation and a wide following. I have a MP-110 on a SL-1200 and it is a great sounding cartridge for the money. The JT-80BK might be worth a try.
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January 13, 2022, 12:23 PM #4
Re: Here's a fantastic MM cartridge that is under the radar
Thanks for sharing your enthusiasm for what appears to be a nice well rounded cartridge that is easily affordable ! I for one believe decent quality in the 'MM' area is needed to attract potential new vinyl enthusiasts into our niche market.
Cheers ! …. Dave
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January 13, 2022, 12:31 PM #5
Re: Here's a fantastic MM cartridge that is under the radar
* An Audiophile is only as old as his latest Class D incarnation *
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January 13, 2022, 12:33 PM #6
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January 13, 2022, 12:51 PM #7
Re: Here's a fantastic MM cartridge that is under the radar
This guy is pushing this cartridge on AS, Vinyl Asylum, and on Amazon via his review. He's also recommending people to purchase it on Amazon.
As for recommendations for mm cartridges, I haven't owned a mm cartridge since the early 1980s. Also, cartridges are transducers and therefore they are a very personal choice like speakers are. Just because someone else likes/loves a particular cartridge doesn't mean you will in the context of your system.Micro Seiki SX-8000 air bearing table, SME 312s arm, SME 3012R arn, Dynavector XV-1s cartridge, Lyra Etna SL cartridge, ARC Ref 3 phono stage, Otari MX-55 2 track R2R, Ampex 350 tape repros, Roon Nucleus Plus music server, HiFi Rose 150B DAC, ARC Ref 6, ARC Ref 75 with KT-150s, Parasound JC5 amp , JBL 4345 speakers, Viero Equilibro Level 3 speaker cables, and Definitive Technology Ref subs.
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January 13, 2022, 12:58 PM #8
Re: Here's a fantastic MM cartridge that is under the radar
Maybe he will reply explaining his enthusiasm for this cartridge.
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January 13, 2022, 01:41 PM #9
Re: Here's a fantastic MM cartridge that is under the radar
Micro Seiki SX-8000 air bearing table, SME 312s arm, SME 3012R arn, Dynavector XV-1s cartridge, Lyra Etna SL cartridge, ARC Ref 3 phono stage, Otari MX-55 2 track R2R, Ampex 350 tape repros, Roon Nucleus Plus music server, HiFi Rose 150B DAC, ARC Ref 6, ARC Ref 75 with KT-150s, Parasound JC5 amp , JBL 4345 speakers, Viero Equilibro Level 3 speaker cables, and Definitive Technology Ref subs.
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January 13, 2022, 01:54 PM #10
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Re: Here's a fantastic MM cartridge that is under the radar
sure like my Miyajima Labs Infinity Mono's; both the 1.0 mil stylus, and the 0.7 mil stylus. each betters my mega buck MC's on mono pressings.
these each list for $3350, so not cheap cheap, but not breaking the bank either. depends on how many mono pressings you have, and how much you care about it. no doubt it makes an experiential difference though. my reason for investing in these is not that i own so many mono's, but that these recordings are maybe the best one's ever. so hearing that music at it's best is important to me.
YMMV.my system on Audiogon; https://www.audiogon.com/systems/615
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January 13, 2022, 02:45 PM #11
Re: Here's a fantastic MM cartridge that is under the radar
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January 13, 2022, 02:57 PM #12
Re: Here's a fantastic MM cartridge that is under the radar
AGREED! Everyone needs to take everything they read where there are no disclosures in the signatures with eyes wide open and a grain of salt.
If you think for a second the new kid on the block brand doesn’t know the tactics (compensated shill tactics) to try to knock off the established players, think again.
At least if there is disclosure, people can view it with a wink and a nudge and then go listen for themselves to decide.
As to that, I like the Ortofon MM carts. But I sell them, so….yeah, I like them, but they are damn good.
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January 13, 2022, 04:39 PM #13
Re: Here's a fantastic MM cartridge that is under the radar
Ortofon seem to be pretty decent. I also like the 700 series Audio Technica. They remind me of their old boutique brand, Signet. Signet were always my second favorite, to the Grace back in the day... I was a huge fan of the Grace F9E, and the Grace Ruby!!! I wish Grace were still available .
I very much agree with MEP... Mike has a rule to disclose affiliations, yet we still deal with people who start threads to push the products they are shilling for.McIntosh C49, MC152, MR85, R778 | T+A DAC 8 DSD | KEF LS50 Meta w/S2, KC62 (x2) | Rega RP8, Ania Pro, NEO PSU | Technics SL-1500C | Audio Technica VM750ML | Hexmat Eclipse, Yellow Bird, Molekula, Molekula Mini | Pro-Ject VC-E | Falcon NW PC Server (Roon Core & HQPlayer) | Microsoft Surface Pro 6 (Roon Controller) | Abyss Diana Phi | Schiit Jotunheim 2 | Astell&Kern SE200 | Oppo BDP105
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January 13, 2022, 04:43 PM #14
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Re: Here's a fantastic MM cartridge that is under the radar
LOL. Yes I have been on all the major boards. I am going to set up a You Tube Channel with reviews, opinions, etc on Audio and possibly Photography (my profession). I'm still experimenting on video formats, etc. My channel is not up and running in full swing. With that aside, I have no affiliation with Nagaoka or any audio brand. I've read for a few years how many love Nagaoka cartridges (especially for the money). I was never attracted to them due to the appearance. Reading a review of the Technics 1210GAE, I saw that the units sold in Japan came with a Nagaoka JT -1210 in which, according to reviews, was made with Technics input. I thought that maybe I could track down the cartridge itself. After research, I found that the JT-80BK is the same cartridge in a different color (there is a cheaper version as well). I found it on Amazon and I was really impressed. I figure I would make a video and post it on the Hoffman forum, then just posted on all the other major forums as well. What I found interesting there are no reviews of this cartridge (plenty of Nagaoka's other models). Nagaoka is been a player in Japan for many years and has provided stylus to many other brands.
Nope, I'm not a brand ambassador. I have no company ties (I own my own photography business Arc Photography). Audio/music is my hobby. Yes, I did post a review on Amazon. So nothing to hide
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January 13, 2022, 04:44 PM #15
Re: Here's a fantastic MM cartridge that is under the radar
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January 13, 2022, 04:45 PM #16
Re: Here's a fantastic MM cartridge that is under the radar
My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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January 13, 2022, 04:56 PM #17
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God, I would kill for a Grace F9-Ruby.... I have actually considered buying a F-9L and then getting Soundsmith Ruby stylus... wonder if it would be as good or if I am just reminiscing about days gone by ....
Really hard to see, but there is a Grace Ruby on that there table ....
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By the way, really old picture... but...
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January 13, 2022, 05:11 PM #18
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Re: Here's a fantastic MM cartridge that is under the radar
BTW, my system consists of Technics 1210GR TT, PS Audio BHK Preamp (using Gold Lion 12au7's), FirstWatt J2, Elac PPA-2 Phono Preamp, Pro-Ject s2 dac, Torus power conditioner, Zu Omen Def speakers, SVS sub (Anti-Mode sub calibration). Oppo 103 Universal player. GIK sound absorber panels and Bass traps. I will update my profile
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January 13, 2022, 05:40 PM #19
Re: Here's a fantastic MM cartridge that is under the radar
Micro Seiki SX-8000 air bearing table, SME 312s arm, SME 3012R arn, Dynavector XV-1s cartridge, Lyra Etna SL cartridge, ARC Ref 3 phono stage, Otari MX-55 2 track R2R, Ampex 350 tape repros, Roon Nucleus Plus music server, HiFi Rose 150B DAC, ARC Ref 6, ARC Ref 75 with KT-150s, Parasound JC5 amp , JBL 4345 speakers, Viero Equilibro Level 3 speaker cables, and Definitive Technology Ref subs.
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January 13, 2022, 05:50 PM #20
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January 13, 2022, 06:00 PM #21
Re: Here's a fantastic MM cartridge that is under the radar
I loved Sony TVs... I remember wanting that TV for a while before the owner of the store put it on sale and let me put it on lay-a-way . And also on the far left was a RCA VHS machine (like the remote? wired).... I ran the audio out through the system .... early home theater?
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January 13, 2022, 06:01 PM #22
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Re: Here's a fantastic MM cartridge that is under the radar
I plan on discussing what I already have or consider purchasing. Plus vinyl records, sacds, etc. I just received the new Butcher Block acoustics isolation platform in black (new color). I did not purchase feet from Butcher block Acoustics, I just installed the feet that came with the 1200GR into it and will try various other spikes and cones I have here (I have Isonoe feet installed on the 1200GR). I'm thinking I may discuss the findings of the different feet I will be trying. Still thinking.
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January 13, 2022, 09:04 PM #23
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January 14, 2022, 12:56 AM #24
Re: Here's a fantastic MM cartridge that is under the radar
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“One of the great challenges in life is knowing enough to think you're right but not enough to know you're wrong”
"You can't use reason to convince anyone out of an argument that they didn't use reason to get into"
― Neil deGrasse Tyson
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January 14, 2022, 09:59 AM #25
Re: Here's a fantastic MM cartridge that is under the radar
Myles B. Astor, Senior Editor, PF, www.positive-feedback.com
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January 14, 2022, 10:15 AM #26
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True also, but at the time Sony absolutely required anyone wanting to build Beta to buy it from them. JVC, RCA, Matsushita (Panasonic and Technics) refused to go a long and all went with JVC's format, VHS. I was managing an Audio/Video store at the time and dealing with Sony on Beta was ridicules, while JVC (RCA and Panasonic) were easy to deal with. It was amazing how fast they took over the market.
Sony pretty much did the same thing with 8mm and SACD for that matter... unfortunately because both were/are better formats than the competition.McIntosh C49, MC152, MR85, R778 | T+A DAC 8 DSD | KEF LS50 Meta w/S2, KC62 (x2) | Rega RP8, Ania Pro, NEO PSU | Technics SL-1500C | Audio Technica VM750ML | Hexmat Eclipse, Yellow Bird, Molekula, Molekula Mini | Pro-Ject VC-E | Falcon NW PC Server (Roon Core & HQPlayer) | Microsoft Surface Pro 6 (Roon Controller) | Abyss Diana Phi | Schiit Jotunheim 2 | Astell&Kern SE200 | Oppo BDP105
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January 14, 2022, 10:29 AM #27
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January 14, 2022, 10:40 AM #28
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guerrilla reviewer -- love it!! ...sounds like a lot of fun and another way to further enjoy this hobby -- looking forward to your youTube channel launch.
btw: excellent photography on your site -- you have a great eye as the commercial work could easily cross-over to art photography.viking acoustics berlin r mk2 | air tight atc-5 + atm-300r | clearaudio concept + virtuoso v2 MM | t+a dac8 dsd + kanjiroba diy transport + roon rock
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January 15, 2022, 12:13 PM #29
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Re: Here's a fantastic MM cartridge that is under the radar
Thanks for the kind words
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January 16, 2022, 09:13 AM #30
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Re: Here's a fantastic MM cartridge that is under the radar
The Jt-80 is MM while most of Nagaoka's other cartridges are MI. I wonder what kind of effect MM vs MI has on the sound.
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January 20, 2022, 08:52 AM #31
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January 20, 2022, 09:54 AM #32
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Cheers ! …. Dave
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January 20, 2022, 09:57 AM #33
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McIntosh C49, MC152, MR85, R778 | T+A DAC 8 DSD | KEF LS50 Meta w/S2, KC62 (x2) | Rega RP8, Ania Pro, NEO PSU | Technics SL-1500C | Audio Technica VM750ML | Hexmat Eclipse, Yellow Bird, Molekula, Molekula Mini | Pro-Ject VC-E | Falcon NW PC Server (Roon Core & HQPlayer) | Microsoft Surface Pro 6 (Roon Controller) | Abyss Diana Phi | Schiit Jotunheim 2 | Astell&Kern SE200 | Oppo BDP105
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January 26, 2022, 07:55 AM #34
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Re: Here's a fantastic MM cartridge that is under the radar
For those who are interested, i made a new review video
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February 18, 2022, 10:29 AM #35
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Re: Here's a fantastic MM cartridge that is under the radar
Hello,
here is a video with more thoughts on the JT-80BK
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