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March 14, 2023, 07:14 PM #1Junior Member
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XLR's for bass?
Later this spring I am going to order a pair of Legacy Audio Focus XD's which have an internal amp and can be bi amped with my VAC Tube amp for the mid/top. They require a set of XLR cables to send the signal from my pre amp to the internal amp in the speakers. Since I will not be using this internal amp full range how particular do I need to be in quality the 3 meter XLR's I will need for them? My interconnects in my System are Wireworld Eclipse 8 level. Would something like their Oasis be OK or should I go for Equinox level? Since I need 3 meters I cannot afford Eclipse 8 level for this. As I understand it I am only using the bass signal or is the signal level quality more important until it gets to the crossover in the speaker? Just not sure how much I need to spend here. Or will a Canare, Magami Pro level cable be just as good for this?
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March 14, 2023, 07:55 PM #2Senior Member
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Varying schools of thought on this however, I have always matched the various XLRs already in system.
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March 14, 2023, 08:38 PM #3Junior Member
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OK thanks, so I should get the best level of same brand XLR's I can for this application then?
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March 14, 2023, 09:36 PM #4Senior Member
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I would match the model if you love the bass performance in what they do for you prior to this move.
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March 14, 2023, 09:44 PM #5Senior Member
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Re: XLR's for bass?
I use custom lengths XLR cables from Blue Jean Cables made with Canare wiring and Neutrik adaptors.
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March 14, 2023, 10:24 PM #6Senior Member
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I use custom Belden 8402 XLR's from here-
Best-Tronics Mfg., Inc. > Standard > IC8402XLR-XX
They are inexpensive and sound better than my Cardas Parsec, AQ Columbia 72v DBS and Blue Jeans XLR's.My Gear- Mains System-Pass X250 amp, BAT VK-51se preamp, Luxman DA-06 DAC, Magnepan 1.6's, Thorens TD-145 TT, Dual Martin Logan Subs, Vintage Luxman T-110 Tuner, Cables-WW Platinum 7 USB, Cardas Parsec XLR, AQ Columbia DBS 72v XLR, Belden 8402 XLR.
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March 15, 2023, 09:57 AM #7Senior Member
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smart move .......
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March 15, 2023, 10:20 AM #8Senior Member
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I’d audition two pair, one exceedingly expensive, one exceedingly cheap. Your local dealer might/should have some to loan. Or use The Cable Company’s extensive library. This way your wallet won’t insert itself between you and the outcome you desire.
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March 15, 2023, 02:37 PM #9Junior Member
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I think I will just stick to keeping Wireworld Eclipse 8 in the system. I may buy some cheap Magomi to try and compare.
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March 15, 2023, 09:26 PM #10Senior Member
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Ghent Audio makes an excellent XLR that I have used with great musical results...
Will not break the wallet either!
My preferred:
ghentaudio --- A18(JSSG360) Mogami 2534 Balanced XLR(JSSG360) Cable
And other options:
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I also highly recommend their DC cables...
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March 16, 2023, 11:43 AM #11Senior Member
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Re: XLR's for bass?
It's a shame when anyone asks a cable question certain members can't resist trying to turn it into a cable debate.
If you hear any difference in cables at all it would seem common sense to keep with same brand and level cables in a speaker for coherency. I'd think the higher the crossover point the more important this would become.If budget was an absolute issue I'd at least go with same brand but lower level.Aurender ACS10 w/Audioquest Diamond USB,
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March 16, 2023, 11:45 AM #12Senior Member
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As a side note some time ago I replaced a generic RCA cable from my processor to sub with a Transparent and the better cable did render improvement.
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March 16, 2023, 06:52 PM #13Senior Member
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Re: XLR's for bass?
I'm confused about the setup in the first post:
a] Does the pre-amp have both a XLR and a RCA output stage?
b] Does the VAC Tube amp have both a XLR and a RCA input stage?
c] Do the Legacy Audio Focus XD's have both a XLR and a RCA input stage?
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March 16, 2023, 07:33 PM #14Junior Member
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@speedskater
a. Yes - 2 sets of RCA and one XLR. RCA to VAC amp, XLR to Legacy Focus XD.
b. No, just RCA
c. Just XLR
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March 17, 2023, 08:18 AM #15Senior Member
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Wow! a pre-amp with 3 output stages.
Impressive.
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