since my cable thread was closed I could use some help

[BlueFox]

Stop talking, start doing! You are just going around in circles and raising your blood pressure.

Make announcements AFTER the ink is dry. Doing so publicly beforehand jeopardizes the deals.

A word to the WISE is sufficient!

Good point. This reminds me of a co-worker a few years ago who thought he had a new job, and was going around saying how much his current job, and management, sucked. Then the job offer fell apart. Oops!

[iosiP]

Where in EU are you?

I am in CH (on the outside, but in the heart...LoL)

I'm in Romania (please see my self-introduction in the appropriate section).

[Steve]

I only know of one Aussie vendor that would give you the NDA time of day. Cameron is your best chance here. I still think that you need different geometries for each type of application.

[mep]

they didn't rewire gear ,they were manufactured new per their spec with my cable from the factory. MEP, I don't have anything to prove to you, are you serious that your opinion means anything to me
here are pics of my Job amp in my tv stand along with my first run of black cable terminated with Bullet plugs

Ichor Cable Photos by keithhenry99 | Photobucket

What happened to the pink/red RCA plug on the right? It's crookeder than a dog's leg.

bandor cable.jpg

[Mike]

What happened to the pink/red RCA plug on the right? It's crookeder than a dog's leg.

bandor cable.jpg

Patent pending.


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[iosiP]

I know I'm just a new kid in town, but may I humbly suggest both camps take a break?
For bandor: please stop disparaging other cable manufacturers until you come with a finished product of your own. The product itself would speak louder and clearer than you about what other manufacturers got wrong.
For everyone else: just wait until the first batch of cables is ready, get a loom for testing and then you can decide if the emperor is dressed in silk or has no clothes.

Sorry, I do not want to look like I'm patronizing anyone, just think that this argument stands out like a mole on the nice face of kindness I found on this forum. We all share the love for music, so why drip vinegar in our Martinis?

[Bobvin]

iosiP, you are right, somehow this thread, and the previous, has taken our friendly forum sideways. I think your suggestion is a wise one. I was going to offer another comment but you've made me reconsider.

I will be patiently waiting to hear some comments once the wires are public.

[Mike]

I will be patiently waiting to hear some comments once the wires are public.

+1


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[sharkmouth]

Finally!

[NorthStar]

Patience is a great virtue. And giving the benefit of the doubt is always the most polite and respectable way.

[socfan12]

Well said iosiP!

[highEndguy]

+1

[bandor]

mike, patent is not pending on my cable

[NorthStar]

It's already patented.

[nCQ]

It's already patented.

Publication number	US7504588 B2
Publication type	Grant
Application number	US 11/768,008
Publication date	Mar 17, 2009
Filing date	Jun 25, 2007
Priority date	Jun 25, 2007
Fee status	Paid

FWIW,
Paul
Waveform Fidelity

[mep]

It's already patented.

He doesn't get the joke and obviously you don't either.

[NorthStar]

But you do, right?

[mep]

But you do, right?

Certainly.

[iosiP]

OK I give up: some people just feel happy shoveling shit in the fan!

Sorry, folks, just thought this forum would be a better place than the usual "pissing contest" places I met before. Guess I was wrong, so just count me out.

Happy listening,
Costin (just passing by...)

[NorthStar]

Certainly.

Then tell me what you see that we don't.

[NorthStar]

OK I give up: some people just feel happy shoveling shit in the fan!

Sorry, folks, just thought this forum would be a better place than the usual "pissing contest" places I met before. Guess I was wrong, so just count me out.

Happy listening,
Costin (just passing by...)

Just wait Costin, don't judge before the truth comes up.

[Mike]

Keith showed a picture of a crooked connector.

"Patent pending"


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[NorthStar]

Thx Mike, I didn't get that.

[Mike]

OK I give up: some people just feel happy shoveling shit in the fan!

Sorry, folks, just thought this forum would be a better place than the usual "pissing contest" places I met before. Guess I was wrong, so just count me out.

Happy listening,
Costin (just passing by...)

Just hold on....it's all in good fun. We are all anxiously awaiting the user reviews of Keith's cables. I want to try them myself and Keith and I have spoken on the phone.

But this saga has been going on for months across multiple forums. So, with all due respect to Keith, it's now time to put up or shut up.


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[NorthStar]

And so far it is the best that it has been, which augurs very well for the near future.

* Only two more days, before April's first.

[Jack]

While I personally think there are parts of this whole cable promotion thing that have bordered on the offensive and ridiculous their does seem to be a certain poster that has followed Keith from another forum and has "pissed" on several threads including this one and even the JOB thread. He needs to take "his" personal agenda and move on. When Mike and Mark have had enough of Keith's sometimes "unusual" behavior and posting methods, they will deal with it. So like IosiP, if you don't have anything to contribute except venom, then move on.

[catmonv]

While I personally think there are parts of this whole cable promotion thing that have bordered on the offensive and ridiculous their does seem to be a certain poster that has followed Keith from another forum and has "pissed" on several threads including this one and even the JOB thread. He needs to take "his" personal agenda and move on. When Mike and Mark have had enough of Keith's sometimes "unusual" behavior and posting methods, they will deal with it. So like IosiP, if you don't have anything to contribute except venom, then move on.

i agree with your observation. There is one poster that is so personal event attacking Keith's integrity. He asked for a pic of the power cable which he was shown Then asked for a pic of his Job amp to prove he has one. Then, noticed a crooked connector. He was even called by Wisnon but would not just stop.

[mep]

While I personally think there are parts of this whole cable promotion thing that have bordered on the offensive and ridiculous

I think you are being too kind. If truth be told, everything about his cable promotion has been both "offensive and ridiculous."

their does seem to be a certain poster that has followed Keith from another forum and has "pissed" on several threads including this one and even the JOB thread. He needs to take "his" personal agenda and move on. When Mike and Mark have had enough of Keith's sometimes "unusual" behavior and posting methods, they will deal with it. So like IosiP, if you don't have anything to contribute except venom, then move on.

Again, you are being far too kind and not facing the reality of the situation that Keith and Keith alone created. If you are talking about me (and I think you are), I can assure you that I didn't follow Keith here. If Mike doesn't want me here, he can give me the boot.

[NorthStar]

We all have our own personality and style. Some get accommodated, some don't.

[Mike]

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[Jack]

Bob

In all due respect, there is a distinctive difference between "style and personality" and aggressiveness. Calling out other vendors and manufactures is in no way "style." Like has been said many times, send the "miracle product" out for review and testing and be done with it. What you hear with your "own creation" and what others hear may be different. It is what "others" hear that is the most important if you want to start a business in this arena.

[BlueFox]

This is one of the better cable threads since we have discussions, opinions, arguments, etc. over a, so far, unknown cable.

On a side note, has anyone been paying attention to the recent discovery of evidence pointing to the very moment the universe was created. If true then this will be a tremendous advance in our understanding of matter. Who knows, it might even be able to explain why some cables sound much, much better than others.

Opinion: How the Big Bang findings came about - CNN.com

[NorthStar]

Bob

In all due respect, there is a distinctive difference between "style and personality" and aggressiveness. Calling out other vendors and manufactures is in no way "style." Like has been said many times, send the "miracle product" out for review and testing and be done with it. What you hear with your "own creation" and what others hear may be different. It is what "others" hear that is the most important if you want to start a business in this arena.

1. I didn't have anyone specifically in mind; I was talking in general regarding the entire population.

2. I agree with you; we all make our own judgement, according to our knowledge and education.

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* Prometheus stole fire from the heavens in order to benefit the human race. ...He was a true titan.

[Shadowfax]

Been following along patiently waiting for results but just wanted to respond to an earlier question about internal wiring.

Odyssey uses Groneberg cabling internally and I am pretty sure that is one of the ways they get their signature sound. I find the Gronebergs to have a bit more bass than other cables in the same range.

[wisnon]

I think I heard that Shindo uses Belen wire internally.

[MDP]

I've been watching this thread for a while, and it's been going nowhere constructive. Personal attacks are something that just doesn't fit in on this forum. I'm not going to point any fingers at anybody.

But I am going to lock this thread.

[Mike]

Just an update for everyone....the infamous Bandor cables never showed up....unless they were just so thin I never saw them?


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