Thread: Siltech Royal Signature Series

Originally Posted by Siltech

I forgot to mention that I own one Siltech Royal Signature Ruby Hill II power cable.

Ruby Mountain II G7 powering my amps, factory terminated with Furutech FI-50(R)s plugged into Furutech Flux 50. Awesome combination.

I have an i770 RCA too which I plan to redeploy as an ADC input from pre-am REC out. I consider this cable to be on par with Furutech LineFlux. Often I would favour this cable during an AB selection because it is a little more laid back.

I could only imagine how much better a Queen XLR would be for example. If someone has a 2m length of Queen or higher and wants to sell, feel free to PM. I would prefer dealer contact for known reasons but I would consider verifiable provenance.

Originally Posted by Siltech

Steve, cool. The Princess is pretty darn good. I just bought a new Pass Labs INT-60 amp. I should receive it in a couple of weeks from dealer. I heard it at the Taves show in Toronto recently, and it sounded awesome. I'll plug a Siltech Signature Ruby Mountain II G7 power cord into it.

The XLR that I would like to replace with Siltech is Wireworld Platinum XLR G7. I'm thinking that the Princess would approximate the Wireworld reference cable. I would love for someone to weigh in on a comparison based on their own experiences here!! One thing about Siltech is that ssssssshhhhh and sparkle is hard to beat!

Definitely go for the RMII. If you can swing a Furutech Flux 50 to hang off your new Pass Labs that would be phenomenal authoritative combination. Remember the Flux EM/RF filter is not current limiting so don't be afraid to hang it off an amp.

Originally Posted by Steve

The XLR that I would like to replace with Siltech is Wireworld Platinum XLR G7. I'm thinking that the Princess would approximate the Wireworld reference cable. I would love for someone to weigh in on a comparison based on their own experiences here!! One thing about Siltech is that ssssssshhhhh and sparkle is hard to beat!

A couple comparisons I've always thought about were not just the Princess vs the G7 Platinum given the pricing similarities but knowing how good Siltech is I've always wondered how well the 550i and 770i would fair against the G7 Platinum.

Have you ever compared your 770i to the Platinum?

Originally Posted by Siltech

Hi Mike. I was reading these postings, and there great. Congratulation on your great Siltech cables. These cables are great. I also own Siltech cables. I have a pair of 2.5m Siltech Royal Signature spade to spade speaker cables, Siltech Royal Signature Ruby Mountain II power cable, Siltech Royal Signature Ruby Mountain II power cable, and Siltech Royal Signature Princess interconnect. I also use PS Audio P10 Power Regenerator. The soundstage, depth, black background, detail, nuances, are all incredible. I really like this forum. Long live Siltech. Take care. Ron

Originally Posted by Siltech

I forgot to mention that I own one Siltech Royal Signature Ruby Hill II power cable.

I was wondering why you had the Ruby Mountain II listed out twice in your initial post, was the 2nd instance meant to be the Ruby Hill II or were you saying you have 2 Mountains plus a Hill? Either way a very nice cable loom. Which model speaker cable, Prince perhaps?

Originally Posted by Rod#S

A couple comparisons I've always thought about were not just the Princess vs the G7 Platinum given the pricing similarities but knowing how good Siltech is I've always wondered how well the 550i and 770i would fair against the G7 Platinum.

Have you ever compared your 770i to the Platinum?

Rod...Yes! The WW PE bests the i770 in my system but not a totally fair comparison as it is RCA vs XLR in a totally balanced system.

The i770 I have is RCA. Similarly the Furutech articulate a little more resolution at a cost of a slightly more forward soundstage. Here it gets down to material and listening mood. Often though I would lean towards listening to the i770 and that was the frustration. I wanted even more of the Siltech good stuff!!

I recall putting this cable up against Shunyata Zitron Anacondas and the Siltech i770 RCAs sh##ted all over those unshielded Shunyata XLRs even though they had the XLR advantage.

Originally Posted by Steve

Rod...Yes! The WW PE bests the i770 in my system but not a totally fair comparison as it is RCA vs XLR in a totally balanced system.

The i770 I have is RCA. Similarly the Furutech articulate a little more resolution at a cost of a slightly more forward soundstage. Here it gets down to material and listening mood. Often though I would lean towards listening to the i770 and that was the frustration. I wanted even more of the Siltech good stuff!!

I recall putting this cable up against Shunyata Zitron Anacondas XLRs and the Siltech i770 sh##ted all over those unshielded Shunyatas.

Thanks Steve

Have you ever had an opportunity to pop some Siltech Signature series speaker cables into your system to compare to your WW Plat's? If looking at a pricing comparison the Plat is very close to the King.

Also if you don't mind me asking about your Mountains, what made you decide to go with Mountains vs Hill's since your 2301's are only 15A I believe and not 20A which may benefit more from a heavier gauge cable. Siltech is not at all forthcoming about the gauge of their cables, I've tried several times but they assured me even the Hill can do 20A all day long capable up to 80A nominal according to them. What they did say about the Mountain makes sense it is capable of a higher current limit without magnetic leakage.

Originally Posted by Rod#S

Thanks Steve

Have you ever had an opportunity to pop some Siltech Signature series speaker cables into your system to compare to your WW Plat's? If looking at a pricing comparison the Plat is very close to the King.

Also if you don't mind me asking about your Mountains, what made you decide to go with Mountains vs Hill's since your 2301's are only 15A I believe and not 20A which may benefit more from a heavier gauge cable. Siltech is not at all forthcoming about the gauge of their cables, I've tried several times but they assured me even the Hill can do 20A all day long capable up to 80A nominal according to them. What they did say about the Mountain makes sense it is capable of a higher current limit without magnetic leakage.

I wish I had the opportunity to try Siltech Signature series loudspeaker cables. Certainly that would have been my preferred choice and I'm confident that Kings would best the WW PE. That said, I do not want to understate the formidable performance of WW PE G7. The WW PE G7s are built well. I am very happy with the WW but honestly, I only have them because the dealer special was too good to refuse. I can live with them as IMO, loudspeaker cables are less critical than say stage 2 signal cables and comparatively the outcome between the two loudspeaker cables in my system would be marginal.

As for the RMII, I agree the RHII would have been just fine for the MC2301s. Again, the outcome was a result of a deal of the day. I have tested the emissions of the RMII and performed the same test against other brands. Siltech RMII have ZERO emissions. No BS with Siltech. Real deal.

For me the local dealer price for Siltech has always been a difficult one.

Originally Posted by Steve

I wish I had the opportunity to try Siltech Signature series loudspeaker cables. Certainly that would have been my preferred choice and I'm confident that Kings would best the WW PE. That said, I do not want to understate the formidable performance of WW PE G7. The WW PE G7s are built well. I am very happy with the WW but honestly, I only have them because the dealer special was too good to refuse. I can live with them as IMO, loudspeaker cables are less critical than say stage 2 signal cables and comparatively the outcome between the two loudspeaker cables in my system would be marginal.

As for the RMII, I agree the RHII would have been just fine for the MC2301s. Again, the outcome was a result of a deal of the day. I have tested the emissions of the RMII and performed the same test against other brands. Siltech RMII have ZERO emissions. No BS with Siltech. Real deal.

For me the local dealer price for Siltech has always been a difficult one.

Thanks again

Seems you have been very fortunate striking good deals, you lucky bugger I doubt I could have passed either one up either I like the looks of big beefy cables and both the Mountains and Platinum's have big and beefy in spades.

Ah, you feel the King might best the Platinum, interesting. One never has enough access to all the gear they are interested in. With that statement I would like to try both the Prince and King against the Plats

Wow! Sounds like a GREAT setup. I'd love to hear it.

Originally Posted by Siltech

Dedicated line to PS Audio P10 regerator to Siltech Ruby Mountain II G7 to Pass Labs Latest INT-60 Integrated amp to Siltech Royal Signature Prince 2.5m to Sonus Faber Garneri Memento Red Violen Speakers. PS Audio P10 to Siltech Royal Signature Ruby Hill II G7 to Krell Cioher CD/SACD to Siltech Royal Signature Princess XLR-XLR to Pass Labs latest INT-60
Integrated amp. Neil Young Signature CSN&Y Pono Hi Rez Player to Pass Labs Latest INT-60 integrated amp via 3.5mm mini to XLR Kimber Cable. THE SOUND IS SUBLIME.

Originally Posted by Siltech

Dedicated line to PS Audio P10 regerator to Siltech Ruby Mountain II G7 to Pass Labs Latest INT-60 Integrated amp to Siltech Royal Signature Prince 2.5m to Sonus Faber Garneri Memento Red Violen Speakers. PS Audio P10 to Siltech Royal Signature Ruby Hill II G7 to Krell Cioher CD/SACD to Siltech Royal Signature Princess XLR-XLR to Pass Labs latest INT-60
Integrated amp. Neil Young Signature CSN&Y Pono Hi Rez Player to Pass Labs Latest INT-60 integrated amp via 3.5mm mini to XLR Kimber Cable. THE SOUND IS SUBLIME.

Nice!

Are you describing 2 separate systems i.e. 2 PS10's and 2 Pass amps or is this just one setup? So if the Ruby Mountain is supplying the Pass, what kind of cable are you using to connect the PS10 to the wall? You mention a dedicated line but that would be to your wall receptacle, so I'm assuming you are using the PS10's stock cord to connect it to the receptacle?

If it's 2 systems and not one, why aren't you using the Ruby Hill in the 2nd system to connect to the 2nd Pass intergrated? Did you find there was more of a noticeable difference connecting it to the Krell player than to the amp?

Thought I'd post a few shots of my new Ruby Hill II with Furutech's new NCF connectors.

Wow!..So Rod, they are factory terminated with the NCF and they allowed you to option up on the RHII, correct?

Love, their new cloth bags instead of the plastic netting. I think, you can leave those on. Others have said that the older plastic netting caused slight tonal discoloration to the sound. I didn't notice but slid mine off anyway.

I hate looking at Siltech pics!!!

Originally Posted by Siltech

Hi Rod. I don't no why the posting showed up more than once. I only submitted it once. Anyway, I have one system. From fuse panel #8 gauge Cardis cable to Furutech platinum receptacle. From receptacle PS Audio AC12 power cable to PS Audio P10 Regenerator input. My last post had a couple typo errors.
Krell Cipher
Guarneri Memento

Ah gotcha thanks. You never posted twice it's just how you worded how things were connected that threw me off.

Originally Posted by Steve

Wow!..So Rod, they are factory terminated with the NCF and they allowed you to option up on the RHII, correct?

Love, their new cloth bags instead of the plastic netting. I think, you can leave those on. Others have said that the older plastic netting caused slight tonal discoloration to the sound. I didn't notice but slid mine off anyway.

I hate looking at Siltech pics!!!

Yes indeed, factory terminated, I find Siltech very good to work with when it comes to your connector of choice.

I was surprised to see the little booties for the barrels as I just recently received my initial Ruby Hill II back in November (with the now older/original Furutech carbon/rhodium connectors, the NCF's hadn't been released yet plus I didn't even know such a thing existed) and it still had the orange plastic netting so this must be a change for the new year. I 1st seen these booties in pics posted of the Triple Crown cables and just assumed they were only for the flagship cables.

I can't imagine how the plastic nettings would have any impact on the sound but I'm not engineer, I kept mine on my initial cable plus my Golden Ridge II just to keep them from getting marked up.

I suppose the only critique I have about the cable packaging is that for cables of this price they really should be using something other than cardboard boxes. I really like what Kimber uses with their Select series, the flight cases. Nordost has some really nice wooden boxes as well.

Wow, Absolute Dreams, very nice!

I find it hard to compare power cords because of the shut down process involved and the time it takes to switch over but I did install the new cord on the same component I had my original Ruby Hill II on, my Lexicon MC-12 so I'll be paying as close attention as I can to any differences. I moved the other Ruby Hill II over to my Furman IT-Reference. That replaces my Kimber PK-10 Gold, I moved that to my tv. The IT-Reference isn't plugged directly into the wall though, it's plugged into my Furman SPR-20i. The 20i has a 20A IEC so I can't use any of my 3 after market cords on that as they are all 15A IEC. I'll eventually get a Siltech with the Furutech 20A IEC. The new NCF version won't be available for a few months according to Furutech.

As for the looks I'm not sure which I prefer, the NCF is a bit blingy The true black carbon does look great. I believe the difference in price is only appx. $40US (I think I seen that on the cable company's website) so not much difference there.

I asked Furutech about incorporating the NCF tech into non power related products in the future and the response was that they were looking for possible uses elsewhere in the product lines and to stay tuned

Thought I'd post a few pics of my other RHII that has the original carbon/rhodium connectors as a comparison.

Originally Posted by Siltech

Cool

Hey Siltech, do you work for Siltech? Curious about your name choice. If you do, are you the Siltech dresser?

I had an opportunity to try a Siltech Classic phono cable to compare to the Nordost Valhalla phono I currently use. Although the stage was slightly more defined with the Siltech the Nordost did everything else better, way better dynamics overall.

Surprised by that result as I thought the Classic Anniversary would have had better synergy with my all Siltech IC's and PC.

Could just simply have been a case where the Nordost is a larger AWG cable perhaps??? thus contributed to giving you more of just about everything like you describe, that would certainly make sense.

I would say that the Valhalla is a superior cable to the Classic Series phono. I think you would find the Empress Crown and Double Crown to outperform Nordost. Possibly even the Avondale II.

I use Furutech Silver Arrows and would consider that better than the Classic also. The Furutech Silver Arrows needs at least a week on a PHONO cable burner to start to work it's best.

Originally Posted by Steve

I would say that the Valhalla is a superior cable to the Classic Series phono. I think you would find the Empress Crown and Double Crown to outperform Nordost. Possibly even the Avondale II.

I have the Avondale II. It's truly world-class. I highly doubt the Valhalla is better...but I'm open to comparing if anyone wants to send me one.

Originally Posted by Mike

I have the Avondale II. It's truly world-class. I highly doubt the Valhalla is better...but I'm open to comparing if anyone wants to send me one.

I think they would need to send you the Odin to make it a fair play!

Originally Posted by Steve

I think they would need to send you the Odin to make it a fair play!

I prefer pure silver & gold to silver plated copper!

Give me Siltech Royal Signature any day!

Originally Posted by Steve

Give me Siltech Royal Signature any day!

Yes - 100%!

Pweg...I would bet that the Triple Crown undergoes an extensive burn-in process.

Sounds like you have an awesome system there. The ducks nuts? We would love to see pics.

I have an order in for 3 sets of Princess XLRs and 1 Golden Ridge II AES/EBU.

Thought very hard about spending a lot more for the Queen but honestly I don't think any McIntosh component has the capability to resolve substantially beyond the level that Queen is capable of delivering. I would concur that the law of diminishing returns seriously kicks in at Siltech Queen and higher.

I would like to be proven incorrect but I feel Princess is going to offer best performance value in the entire Siltech lineup. Very confident that they will comfortably surpass Wireworld Platinums currently in use.

^^^^ Whatcha got there Kev?

@Rod#S. My dealer tells me that Siltech are no longer offering choice of termination for IC just power. I did enquire about Furutech CF601/2 Rhodium terminations but dealer said no. Apart from Triple Crown, it is Neutrik nickel.

Not sure if I am getting the straight answer but it could be dealer/region specific.

Also the Chinese Siltech counterfeits out there tend to use that Furutech termination whether it is a real or a fake Furutech plug.

Originally Posted by bzr

Royal Signature Prince speaker cables. I am so shit scared to play vinyl at the mo. I mean if it sounds this good without listening to my table, I'm really scared I'm going to go on Amazon & buy like a shitload of vinyl......

Congrats! You will go on Amazon and buy a shitload of vinyl. You will go on Amazon and buy a shitload of vinyl. You will go on Amazon and buy a shitload of vinyl.

Congrats Steve! Looking forward to hear what you think about the Princess XLR!

Congrats Kev!! What are the other Siltech cables you got?

Not sure what your dealer told you, but I've found, the Siltech's need 100-200 hours to break in and then holy mama, look out!

I have a Hagerman FlyKleaner Professional cable burner that will give a beautiful cable break-in before I commission the Siltech. Here is the unit loaded in action when I received the Wireworld Platinum G7s.

Originally Posted by Steve

I have an order in for 3 sets of Princess XLRs and 1 Golden Ridge II AES/EBU.

Thought very hard about spending a lot more for the Queen but honestly I don't think any McIntosh component has the capability to resolve substantially beyond the level that Queen is capable of delivering. I would concur that the law of diminishing returns seriously kicks in at Siltech Queen and higher.

I would like to be proven incorrect but I feel Princess is going to offer best performance value in the entire Siltech lineup. Very confident that they will comfortably surpass Wireworld Platinums currently in use.

Very nice Steve, Congrats! I'm sure you'll love them As you are a Platinum owner it will be nice to read about your comparisons as many, particularly in other forums seem to consider the Platimuns as the be all, end all of cables.

Originally Posted by Steve

@Rod#S. My dealer tells me that Siltech are no longer offering choice of termination for IC just power. I did enquire about Furutech CF601/2 Rhodium terminations but dealer said no. Apart from Triple Crown, it is Neutrik nickel.

Not sure if I am getting the straight answer but it could be dealer/region specific.

Also the Chinese Siltech counterfeits out there tend to use that Furutech termination whether it is a real or a fake Furutech plug.

hmm, this doesn't sound right. I actually placed an order for a 14 meter pair of 330i's on Tuesday and asked for the CF-601M（R）and CF-602F（R）to match my Golden Ridge II. I heard back from the dealer yesterday saying they were available but at a significant up charge so he wanted to check if I still wanted to go that route. I still decided to go with them. I was surprised at the additional charge given the price of the cables. I didn't have to pay extra for them on the Golden Ridge II and that was much less expensive so I'm thinking for some reason the price is just absorbed in the Signature pricing scheme. Who knows. I should have my cables in a couple weeks, that tends to be the typcial from order to delivery time.

Rod...Interesting, sounds like that are deterministic factors when it comes to customer requests.

I was also told 2 weeks for the 1.5m lengths which is a non standard dealer stock item. Perhaps I am buying an already packaged warehoused item coming from The Netherlands.