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May 2, 2020, 12:52 PM #1
Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
While generally speaking happy with my interconnects, I have been pondering about Cardas Clear Beyond ICs since choosing the Clear Beyond as my phono cable. I have been very impressed with that cable since adding it.
Cardas cables are famous for their superb build quality, and George is also one of the few in the business making his own copper cable stranding and extrusion. This is necessary, as there is no supplier who could deliver a cable with the golden ratio propagation.
I like the build quality, the argument makes sense to me that while music signals travel on the cable surface different strand diameters also suit different frequencies best (while I cannot verify or falsify it), and they do sound really good.
I bought one pair first to test them in my system. Now the phono system is wired throughout with Cardas Clear Beyond.
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Big rig: Brinkmann Taurus DD TT + 12.1 arm + Lyra Etna Lambda SL MC + HRS M3X2/ Cardas Clear Beyond phono/ Stillpoints LPI/ Brinkmann Edison mk2 phono + RöNT II Tube PS/ Synology NAS with Roon + HD Plex linear PSU + Shunyata HD/ AQ Vodka RJ45 + Aqvox Network Switch SE + AQ Diamond RJ45 into DAC/ Brinkmann Nyquist mk2/ Audionet Humboldt/ Cardas Clear Beyond ICs/ Kharma DB9-S 1.1 LS/ Inakustik Reference LS 4004 AIR/ Audioquest Niagara 5000/ Shunyata Alpha power (HC, Analogue, Digital)/ Finite Elemente Pagode Rack/ Stillpoints Ultra SS/ Vicoustic panels + Stillpoints Aperture II.
Small rig: Naim UnitiServe/ Curious USB/ Tidal/ Linn Klimax DS3/ Shunyata Power cable/ Pass Labs INT-60/ Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II/ HiD Diamond 8/ Harbeth 30.2 40th Anniversary/ Shunyata Venom EU7 & Venom 3 HD.
HP rig: MacBookAir/ Tidal/ Auralic Gemini 2000/ Sbooster LPSU/ Audeze LCD-2 Classic + WyWires Red/ Shunyata HD/ Shunyata Hydra 2/ Shunyata Venom.
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May 2, 2020, 01:47 PM #2
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Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
A phono cartridge to pre-amp input cable is different from a typical interconnect cable. In that the total cable capacitance can have an impact on the sound of the system.
In an interconnect system, the total cable capacitance of a reasonable length cable is of no significance.
Oh, at audio frequencies the signal doesn't just travel on the conductor surface. But at 100 megahertz the signal does travel at the surface.
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In short, input transducer cables (phono cartridges, microphones and musical instruments) are not just like interconnect cables.
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May 2, 2020, 05:43 PM #3
Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
I think George Cardas knows that .
Of course cables for different purposes have different properties. A Clear Beyond power cable has also technically little in common with a phono cable. That is self understanding.
Yet a family of cables typically share some sound similarities.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk“Life’s too short to listen to bad audio.”
Big rig: Brinkmann Taurus DD TT + 12.1 arm + Lyra Etna Lambda SL MC + HRS M3X2/ Cardas Clear Beyond phono/ Stillpoints LPI/ Brinkmann Edison mk2 phono + RöNT II Tube PS/ Synology NAS with Roon + HD Plex linear PSU + Shunyata HD/ AQ Vodka RJ45 + Aqvox Network Switch SE + AQ Diamond RJ45 into DAC/ Brinkmann Nyquist mk2/ Audionet Humboldt/ Cardas Clear Beyond ICs/ Kharma DB9-S 1.1 LS/ Inakustik Reference LS 4004 AIR/ Audioquest Niagara 5000/ Shunyata Alpha power (HC, Analogue, Digital)/ Finite Elemente Pagode Rack/ Stillpoints Ultra SS/ Vicoustic panels + Stillpoints Aperture II.
Small rig: Naim UnitiServe/ Curious USB/ Tidal/ Linn Klimax DS3/ Shunyata Power cable/ Pass Labs INT-60/ Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II/ HiD Diamond 8/ Harbeth 30.2 40th Anniversary/ Shunyata Venom EU7 & Venom 3 HD.
HP rig: MacBookAir/ Tidal/ Auralic Gemini 2000/ Sbooster LPSU/ Audeze LCD-2 Classic + WyWires Red/ Shunyata HD/ Shunyata Hydra 2/ Shunyata Venom.
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May 2, 2020, 05:53 PM #4
Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
So, here they are:
So far, I really do like what I am hearing: very good reach at both ends of the spectrum, tons of detail, and the soundstaging is just amazing.
These ICs clearly are a departure from the earlier Cardas Clear cables, which were a little exchanging resolution for warmth. Gone is the excess warmth, these cables are dead neutral, and resolution just is impressive. I think George Cardas has really hit one out of the ball park with these.
I also do like the high quality Cardas XLR connectors. While having no traditional locking mechanism on the output end, they sit very snugly in the output/ input terminals on both ends.
Color me impressed, these cables are highly recommended.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk“Life’s too short to listen to bad audio.”
Big rig: Brinkmann Taurus DD TT + 12.1 arm + Lyra Etna Lambda SL MC + HRS M3X2/ Cardas Clear Beyond phono/ Stillpoints LPI/ Brinkmann Edison mk2 phono + RöNT II Tube PS/ Synology NAS with Roon + HD Plex linear PSU + Shunyata HD/ AQ Vodka RJ45 + Aqvox Network Switch SE + AQ Diamond RJ45 into DAC/ Brinkmann Nyquist mk2/ Audionet Humboldt/ Cardas Clear Beyond ICs/ Kharma DB9-S 1.1 LS/ Inakustik Reference LS 4004 AIR/ Audioquest Niagara 5000/ Shunyata Alpha power (HC, Analogue, Digital)/ Finite Elemente Pagode Rack/ Stillpoints Ultra SS/ Vicoustic panels + Stillpoints Aperture II.
Small rig: Naim UnitiServe/ Curious USB/ Tidal/ Linn Klimax DS3/ Shunyata Power cable/ Pass Labs INT-60/ Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II/ HiD Diamond 8/ Harbeth 30.2 40th Anniversary/ Shunyata Venom EU7 & Venom 3 HD.
HP rig: MacBookAir/ Tidal/ Auralic Gemini 2000/ Sbooster LPSU/ Audeze LCD-2 Classic + WyWires Red/ Shunyata HD/ Shunyata Hydra 2/ Shunyata Venom.
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May 3, 2020, 09:02 AM #5
Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
The Cardas Clear Beyond keep getting better after settling in a bit: details, depth, soundstage.
Quite enjoyable.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk“Life’s too short to listen to bad audio.”
Big rig: Brinkmann Taurus DD TT + 12.1 arm + Lyra Etna Lambda SL MC + HRS M3X2/ Cardas Clear Beyond phono/ Stillpoints LPI/ Brinkmann Edison mk2 phono + RöNT II Tube PS/ Synology NAS with Roon + HD Plex linear PSU + Shunyata HD/ AQ Vodka RJ45 + Aqvox Network Switch SE + AQ Diamond RJ45 into DAC/ Brinkmann Nyquist mk2/ Audionet Humboldt/ Cardas Clear Beyond ICs/ Kharma DB9-S 1.1 LS/ Inakustik Reference LS 4004 AIR/ Audioquest Niagara 5000/ Shunyata Alpha power (HC, Analogue, Digital)/ Finite Elemente Pagode Rack/ Stillpoints Ultra SS/ Vicoustic panels + Stillpoints Aperture II.
Small rig: Naim UnitiServe/ Curious USB/ Tidal/ Linn Klimax DS3/ Shunyata Power cable/ Pass Labs INT-60/ Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II/ HiD Diamond 8/ Harbeth 30.2 40th Anniversary/ Shunyata Venom EU7 & Venom 3 HD.
HP rig: MacBookAir/ Tidal/ Auralic Gemini 2000/ Sbooster LPSU/ Audeze LCD-2 Classic + WyWires Red/ Shunyata HD/ Shunyata Hydra 2/ Shunyata Venom.
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May 5, 2020, 12:22 AM #6
Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
I hear a lot of good things about Cardas.
Darryl here locally is loading up with them, someday we will get together again to check them out.
In the meantime, enjoy yours!
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk ProSource Analog: Kuzma Stabi R w/4point 11 arm | Kuzma 50 Cartridge
Source Digital: Aurender N10 | Brinkmann Nyquist MK II
Amplification: Dan D’Agostino Momentum HD and M400’s | Boulder 508
Speakers: Wilson Alexias
Cabling: Nordost Leif, Norse, V2 and Odin
Power and Isolation: Audio-Ultra Home & Room Power Foundation Performance Package with StromTank S1000 | HRS
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May 5, 2020, 07:19 AM #7
Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
I used to own Cardas ICs and speaker cables. They had a wonderfully natural sound and build quality was second to none.
Congrats and enjoy!
Ken"No summit worth climbing is easily attained."
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Source: MSB Select II DAC with Two Mono Powerbases and Femto 33 Clock; Renderer V2 Digital Input Module and Roon Nucleus Plus; MSB UMT V Signature Transport
Amps: Vandersteen M7-HPA Mono Amps; MSB M204 Mono Amps
Speakers: Vandersteen Model 7 Mk2
Power: Two AudioQuest Niagara 5000’s with AudioQuest Dragon and Hurricane Power Cords
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May 5, 2020, 12:19 PM #8
Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
“Life’s too short to listen to bad audio.”
Big rig: Brinkmann Taurus DD TT + 12.1 arm + Lyra Etna Lambda SL MC + HRS M3X2/ Cardas Clear Beyond phono/ Stillpoints LPI/ Brinkmann Edison mk2 phono + RöNT II Tube PS/ Synology NAS with Roon + HD Plex linear PSU + Shunyata HD/ AQ Vodka RJ45 + Aqvox Network Switch SE + AQ Diamond RJ45 into DAC/ Brinkmann Nyquist mk2/ Audionet Humboldt/ Cardas Clear Beyond ICs/ Kharma DB9-S 1.1 LS/ Inakustik Reference LS 4004 AIR/ Audioquest Niagara 5000/ Shunyata Alpha power (HC, Analogue, Digital)/ Finite Elemente Pagode Rack/ Stillpoints Ultra SS/ Vicoustic panels + Stillpoints Aperture II.
Small rig: Naim UnitiServe/ Curious USB/ Tidal/ Linn Klimax DS3/ Shunyata Power cable/ Pass Labs INT-60/ Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II/ HiD Diamond 8/ Harbeth 30.2 40th Anniversary/ Shunyata Venom EU7 & Venom 3 HD.
HP rig: MacBookAir/ Tidal/ Auralic Gemini 2000/ Sbooster LPSU/ Audeze LCD-2 Classic + WyWires Red/ Shunyata HD/ Shunyata Hydra 2/ Shunyata Venom.
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May 5, 2020, 05:45 PM #9
Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
Of all the copper conductor cables I’ve listened to and owned, I feel the Cardas Clear and Clear Beyond are amongst the very best. The quality of the copper utilized is a step above the typical OCC that most manufacturers purchase because Cardas manufactures it themselves to the tightest tolerances. As I said before, the build quality is just insane. You don’t realize how extraordinary it is until you actually hold it in your hands, install it and dress it in your system. Supple and flexible, yet as durable as you’ll encounter. As for the sound, relaxed and natural, always musical, never analytical.
Ken"No summit worth climbing is easily attained."
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Source: MSB Select II DAC with Two Mono Powerbases and Femto 33 Clock; Renderer V2 Digital Input Module and Roon Nucleus Plus; MSB UMT V Signature Transport
Amps: Vandersteen M7-HPA Mono Amps; MSB M204 Mono Amps
Speakers: Vandersteen Model 7 Mk2
Power: Two AudioQuest Niagara 5000’s with AudioQuest Dragon and Hurricane Power Cords
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May 6, 2020, 02:03 AM #10
Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
Agreed, this is pretty much what I’m hearing. Increase in micro-details without being in any way aggressive. Yet, the Clear Beyond does not achieve this by adding extra warmth.
And as you say, Cardas is controlling the entire production chain for the cables from start to finish. This allows for an extraordinary technical level of sophistication, exemplified by the golden-ratio propagation, and yields a build quality second to none.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk“Life’s too short to listen to bad audio.”
Big rig: Brinkmann Taurus DD TT + 12.1 arm + Lyra Etna Lambda SL MC + HRS M3X2/ Cardas Clear Beyond phono/ Stillpoints LPI/ Brinkmann Edison mk2 phono + RöNT II Tube PS/ Synology NAS with Roon + HD Plex linear PSU + Shunyata HD/ AQ Vodka RJ45 + Aqvox Network Switch SE + AQ Diamond RJ45 into DAC/ Brinkmann Nyquist mk2/ Audionet Humboldt/ Cardas Clear Beyond ICs/ Kharma DB9-S 1.1 LS/ Inakustik Reference LS 4004 AIR/ Audioquest Niagara 5000/ Shunyata Alpha power (HC, Analogue, Digital)/ Finite Elemente Pagode Rack/ Stillpoints Ultra SS/ Vicoustic panels + Stillpoints Aperture II.
Small rig: Naim UnitiServe/ Curious USB/ Tidal/ Linn Klimax DS3/ Shunyata Power cable/ Pass Labs INT-60/ Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II/ HiD Diamond 8/ Harbeth 30.2 40th Anniversary/ Shunyata Venom EU7 & Venom 3 HD.
HP rig: MacBookAir/ Tidal/ Auralic Gemini 2000/ Sbooster LPSU/ Audeze LCD-2 Classic + WyWires Red/ Shunyata HD/ Shunyata Hydra 2/ Shunyata Venom.
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May 6, 2020, 08:33 AM #11
Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
Micro Seiki SX-8000 air bearing table, SME 312s arm, SME 3012R arn, Dynavector XV-1s cartridge, Lyra Etna SL cartridge, ARC Ref 3 phono stage, Otari MX-55 2 track R2R, Ampex 350 tape repros, Roon Nucleus Plus music server, HiFi Rose 150B DAC, ARC Ref 6, ARC Ref 75 with KT-150s, Parasound JC5 amp , JBL 4345 speakers, Viero Equilibro Level 3 speaker cables, and Definitive Technology Ref subs.
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May 6, 2020, 09:12 AM #12
Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
Hi Mark,
Yes, I did switch over to silver conductor cables. It wasn’t a conscious plan. I purchased the Vandersteen M7-HPA Mono Amps and they came with proprietary fixed length silver speaker cables manufactured by AudioQuest. To match the speaker cables, I followed up with AudioQuest Wild Blue Yonder silver interconnects. To match the rest of the system, I recently started adding AudioQuest Dragon silver power cords.
I previously didn’t care for silver cables until I listened to the AudioQuest. They gave me more information but in a non-fatiguing way. They claim it’s due to their use of perfect surface silver and solid core conductors that avoid traditional strand interaction. I don’t know if this explanation is true but I can certainly hear a difference. Much more ease than other silver cables to my ears.
Best,
Ken"No summit worth climbing is easily attained."
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Source: MSB Select II DAC with Two Mono Powerbases and Femto 33 Clock; Renderer V2 Digital Input Module and Roon Nucleus Plus; MSB UMT V Signature Transport
Amps: Vandersteen M7-HPA Mono Amps; MSB M204 Mono Amps
Speakers: Vandersteen Model 7 Mk2
Power: Two AudioQuest Niagara 5000’s with AudioQuest Dragon and Hurricane Power Cords
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May 6, 2020, 09:20 AM #13
Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
Micro Seiki SX-8000 air bearing table, SME 312s arm, SME 3012R arn, Dynavector XV-1s cartridge, Lyra Etna SL cartridge, ARC Ref 3 phono stage, Otari MX-55 2 track R2R, Ampex 350 tape repros, Roon Nucleus Plus music server, HiFi Rose 150B DAC, ARC Ref 6, ARC Ref 75 with KT-150s, Parasound JC5 amp , JBL 4345 speakers, Viero Equilibro Level 3 speaker cables, and Definitive Technology Ref subs.
Reviewer for Positive Feedback
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May 6, 2020, 03:19 PM #14
Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
I have owned (and am actually still owning) great sounding silver cables as well. The Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II are now in my summerhouse, playing with the Pass INT-60.
Based on my experience, as with many audio things, it’s hard to judge gear by the specs. Similar material ICs do often sound completely different, and it always depends on system synergy what the actual end result is.
Nice to hear you have found a good match with your Vandersteens. With power products I’ve also switched to AudioQuest due to better clarity.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk“Life’s too short to listen to bad audio.”
Big rig: Brinkmann Taurus DD TT + 12.1 arm + Lyra Etna Lambda SL MC + HRS M3X2/ Cardas Clear Beyond phono/ Stillpoints LPI/ Brinkmann Edison mk2 phono + RöNT II Tube PS/ Synology NAS with Roon + HD Plex linear PSU + Shunyata HD/ AQ Vodka RJ45 + Aqvox Network Switch SE + AQ Diamond RJ45 into DAC/ Brinkmann Nyquist mk2/ Audionet Humboldt/ Cardas Clear Beyond ICs/ Kharma DB9-S 1.1 LS/ Inakustik Reference LS 4004 AIR/ Audioquest Niagara 5000/ Shunyata Alpha power (HC, Analogue, Digital)/ Finite Elemente Pagode Rack/ Stillpoints Ultra SS/ Vicoustic panels + Stillpoints Aperture II.
Small rig: Naim UnitiServe/ Curious USB/ Tidal/ Linn Klimax DS3/ Shunyata Power cable/ Pass Labs INT-60/ Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II/ HiD Diamond 8/ Harbeth 30.2 40th Anniversary/ Shunyata Venom EU7 & Venom 3 HD.
HP rig: MacBookAir/ Tidal/ Auralic Gemini 2000/ Sbooster LPSU/ Audeze LCD-2 Classic + WyWires Red/ Shunyata HD/ Shunyata Hydra 2/ Shunyata Venom.
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May 7, 2020, 12:49 AM #15
Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
"No summit worth climbing is easily attained."
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Source: MSB Select II DAC with Two Mono Powerbases and Femto 33 Clock; Renderer V2 Digital Input Module and Roon Nucleus Plus; MSB UMT V Signature Transport
Amps: Vandersteen M7-HPA Mono Amps; MSB M204 Mono Amps
Speakers: Vandersteen Model 7 Mk2
Power: Two AudioQuest Niagara 5000’s with AudioQuest Dragon and Hurricane Power Cords
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May 7, 2020, 01:47 AM #16
Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
“Life’s too short to listen to bad audio.”
Big rig: Brinkmann Taurus DD TT + 12.1 arm + Lyra Etna Lambda SL MC + HRS M3X2/ Cardas Clear Beyond phono/ Stillpoints LPI/ Brinkmann Edison mk2 phono + RöNT II Tube PS/ Synology NAS with Roon + HD Plex linear PSU + Shunyata HD/ AQ Vodka RJ45 + Aqvox Network Switch SE + AQ Diamond RJ45 into DAC/ Brinkmann Nyquist mk2/ Audionet Humboldt/ Cardas Clear Beyond ICs/ Kharma DB9-S 1.1 LS/ Inakustik Reference LS 4004 AIR/ Audioquest Niagara 5000/ Shunyata Alpha power (HC, Analogue, Digital)/ Finite Elemente Pagode Rack/ Stillpoints Ultra SS/ Vicoustic panels + Stillpoints Aperture II.
Small rig: Naim UnitiServe/ Curious USB/ Tidal/ Linn Klimax DS3/ Shunyata Power cable/ Pass Labs INT-60/ Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II/ HiD Diamond 8/ Harbeth 30.2 40th Anniversary/ Shunyata Venom EU7 & Venom 3 HD.
HP rig: MacBookAir/ Tidal/ Auralic Gemini 2000/ Sbooster LPSU/ Audeze LCD-2 Classic + WyWires Red/ Shunyata HD/ Shunyata Hydra 2/ Shunyata Venom.
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December 29, 2021, 11:06 AM #17
Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
I'm looking for new IC and SC for my rig because i have come to the conclusion that my Gryphon cables are not a good match for my Thiel speakers, they are way to bright for my taste or at least for my speakers.
I am planning to demo Cardas Clear Beyond IC and SC very soon, they are supposed to be much more musical en engaging.
Can you guys confirm ?Speaker System : Thiel CS 3.7 - Vitus SIA-025 Mk2 - Aqua Acoustics LinQ - Aqua Acoustics Formula xHD Rev 2 - Fanless Intel NUC + Sbooster Mkll - Farad Super 3 - Paul Pang Quad Switch - Pink Faun LAN cables - Cardas Clear Beyond IC and SC - Furutech DSP 4.1 Power cables - Audioquest Niagara 3000 Power Conditioner - Woodlink Rack - Roon Rock - Qobuz & Tidal.
Headphone Rig : Hifiman HE-1000SE - Kennerton Ondin Mk2 - Chord Hugo 2 - Smartphone - Qobuz & Tidal.
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December 29, 2021, 04:12 PM #18
Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
I do have a loom of Cardas Clear Beyond. They’re great.
But beware, that while Cardas Clear are musical, the Clear Beyond are pretty much neutral in tonality and also more resolving.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk“Life’s too short to listen to bad audio.”
Big rig: Brinkmann Taurus DD TT + 12.1 arm + Lyra Etna Lambda SL MC + HRS M3X2/ Cardas Clear Beyond phono/ Stillpoints LPI/ Brinkmann Edison mk2 phono + RöNT II Tube PS/ Synology NAS with Roon + HD Plex linear PSU + Shunyata HD/ AQ Vodka RJ45 + Aqvox Network Switch SE + AQ Diamond RJ45 into DAC/ Brinkmann Nyquist mk2/ Audionet Humboldt/ Cardas Clear Beyond ICs/ Kharma DB9-S 1.1 LS/ Inakustik Reference LS 4004 AIR/ Audioquest Niagara 5000/ Shunyata Alpha power (HC, Analogue, Digital)/ Finite Elemente Pagode Rack/ Stillpoints Ultra SS/ Vicoustic panels + Stillpoints Aperture II.
Small rig: Naim UnitiServe/ Curious USB/ Tidal/ Linn Klimax DS3/ Shunyata Power cable/ Pass Labs INT-60/ Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II/ HiD Diamond 8/ Harbeth 30.2 40th Anniversary/ Shunyata Venom EU7 & Venom 3 HD.
HP rig: MacBookAir/ Tidal/ Auralic Gemini 2000/ Sbooster LPSU/ Audeze LCD-2 Classic + WyWires Red/ Shunyata HD/ Shunyata Hydra 2/ Shunyata Venom.
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December 29, 2021, 04:52 PM #19
Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
Speaker System : Thiel CS 3.7 - Vitus SIA-025 Mk2 - Aqua Acoustics LinQ - Aqua Acoustics Formula xHD Rev 2 - Fanless Intel NUC + Sbooster Mkll - Farad Super 3 - Paul Pang Quad Switch - Pink Faun LAN cables - Cardas Clear Beyond IC and SC - Furutech DSP 4.1 Power cables - Audioquest Niagara 3000 Power Conditioner - Woodlink Rack - Roon Rock - Qobuz & Tidal.
Headphone Rig : Hifiman HE-1000SE - Kennerton Ondin Mk2 - Chord Hugo 2 - Smartphone - Qobuz & Tidal.
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December 29, 2021, 05:14 PM #20
Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
“Life’s too short to listen to bad audio.”
Big rig: Brinkmann Taurus DD TT + 12.1 arm + Lyra Etna Lambda SL MC + HRS M3X2/ Cardas Clear Beyond phono/ Stillpoints LPI/ Brinkmann Edison mk2 phono + RöNT II Tube PS/ Synology NAS with Roon + HD Plex linear PSU + Shunyata HD/ AQ Vodka RJ45 + Aqvox Network Switch SE + AQ Diamond RJ45 into DAC/ Brinkmann Nyquist mk2/ Audionet Humboldt/ Cardas Clear Beyond ICs/ Kharma DB9-S 1.1 LS/ Inakustik Reference LS 4004 AIR/ Audioquest Niagara 5000/ Shunyata Alpha power (HC, Analogue, Digital)/ Finite Elemente Pagode Rack/ Stillpoints Ultra SS/ Vicoustic panels + Stillpoints Aperture II.
Small rig: Naim UnitiServe/ Curious USB/ Tidal/ Linn Klimax DS3/ Shunyata Power cable/ Pass Labs INT-60/ Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II/ HiD Diamond 8/ Harbeth 30.2 40th Anniversary/ Shunyata Venom EU7 & Venom 3 HD.
HP rig: MacBookAir/ Tidal/ Auralic Gemini 2000/ Sbooster LPSU/ Audeze LCD-2 Classic + WyWires Red/ Shunyata HD/ Shunyata Hydra 2/ Shunyata Venom.
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December 29, 2021, 05:37 PM #21
Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
Speaker System : Thiel CS 3.7 - Vitus SIA-025 Mk2 - Aqua Acoustics LinQ - Aqua Acoustics Formula xHD Rev 2 - Fanless Intel NUC + Sbooster Mkll - Farad Super 3 - Paul Pang Quad Switch - Pink Faun LAN cables - Cardas Clear Beyond IC and SC - Furutech DSP 4.1 Power cables - Audioquest Niagara 3000 Power Conditioner - Woodlink Rack - Roon Rock - Qobuz & Tidal.
Headphone Rig : Hifiman HE-1000SE - Kennerton Ondin Mk2 - Chord Hugo 2 - Smartphone - Qobuz & Tidal.
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December 29, 2021, 06:50 PM #22
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Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
A Cable Company rep advised that the Cardas Clear Reflection was on the warm side and Cardas' best option for reducing glare.
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December 29, 2021, 07:32 PM #23
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Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
i d rather change the speaker if it is the cause of the brightness
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December 29, 2021, 11:04 PM #24
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Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
Cardas cables are in two different groups. The original group is warmer overall which was George's response to bright sounding digital. The newer group is more neutral and more revealing, the website discusses this. For years my Tara Labs speaker cables and interconnects were my reference. I got a wild hair one day and bought two pairs of Cardas interconnects and a pair of speaker cables. The Tara's never got back in the system.
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December 30, 2021, 09:22 AM #25
Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
I would try the Clear Reflection. They add some midrange warmth and smoothness on top, similar to earlier Cardas models that brought them notoriety. You could try The Cable Company’s lending library first before purchasing.
Ken"No summit worth climbing is easily attained."
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Source: MSB Select II DAC with Two Mono Powerbases and Femto 33 Clock; Renderer V2 Digital Input Module and Roon Nucleus Plus; MSB UMT V Signature Transport
Amps: Vandersteen M7-HPA Mono Amps; MSB M204 Mono Amps
Speakers: Vandersteen Model 7 Mk2
Power: Two AudioQuest Niagara 5000’s with AudioQuest Dragon and Hurricane Power Cords
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December 30, 2021, 09:36 AM #26
Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
Speaker System : Thiel CS 3.7 - Vitus SIA-025 Mk2 - Aqua Acoustics LinQ - Aqua Acoustics Formula xHD Rev 2 - Fanless Intel NUC + Sbooster Mkll - Farad Super 3 - Paul Pang Quad Switch - Pink Faun LAN cables - Cardas Clear Beyond IC and SC - Furutech DSP 4.1 Power cables - Audioquest Niagara 3000 Power Conditioner - Woodlink Rack - Roon Rock - Qobuz & Tidal.
Headphone Rig : Hifiman HE-1000SE - Kennerton Ondin Mk2 - Chord Hugo 2 - Smartphone - Qobuz & Tidal.
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December 31, 2021, 05:36 AM #27
Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
IMHO if a system is bright, most of the time it's caused by "sub-optimal" electrical power network, in the past I experienced this with Focal speakers I owned, too bright for long listening sessions but after adding a separate electrical group for audio, better (system matching) powercords and power distribution block all off the brightness went away.
Moon 700i V2, YG Acoustics Hailey, Aurender N10, dCS Rossini, Oppo BDP103D (audiopraise board), Ansuz Mainz 8 D2
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December 31, 2021, 06:20 AM #28
Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
I already have an Audioquest Niagara 3000 in which all my digital, Switch, LPSUs and internet box are plugged in.
Only my Diablo 300 is directly plugged in the wall with and Audioquest Firebird PC.
I don't have a dedicated power line for my system yet, will have to wait a couple of years when i can build a dedicated listening room.
Meanwhile if i can find smoother cables for my speakers that should do just fine.Speaker System : Thiel CS 3.7 - Vitus SIA-025 Mk2 - Aqua Acoustics LinQ - Aqua Acoustics Formula xHD Rev 2 - Fanless Intel NUC + Sbooster Mkll - Farad Super 3 - Paul Pang Quad Switch - Pink Faun LAN cables - Cardas Clear Beyond IC and SC - Furutech DSP 4.1 Power cables - Audioquest Niagara 3000 Power Conditioner - Woodlink Rack - Roon Rock - Qobuz & Tidal.
Headphone Rig : Hifiman HE-1000SE - Kennerton Ondin Mk2 - Chord Hugo 2 - Smartphone - Qobuz & Tidal.
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December 31, 2021, 11:20 AM #29
Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
Moon 700i V2, YG Acoustics Hailey, Aurender N10, dCS Rossini, Oppo BDP103D (audiopraise board), Ansuz Mainz 8 D2
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December 31, 2021, 11:38 AM #30
Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
Speaker System : Thiel CS 3.7 - Vitus SIA-025 Mk2 - Aqua Acoustics LinQ - Aqua Acoustics Formula xHD Rev 2 - Fanless Intel NUC + Sbooster Mkll - Farad Super 3 - Paul Pang Quad Switch - Pink Faun LAN cables - Cardas Clear Beyond IC and SC - Furutech DSP 4.1 Power cables - Audioquest Niagara 3000 Power Conditioner - Woodlink Rack - Roon Rock - Qobuz & Tidal.
Headphone Rig : Hifiman HE-1000SE - Kennerton Ondin Mk2 - Chord Hugo 2 - Smartphone - Qobuz & Tidal.
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January 1, 2022, 04:35 AM #31
Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
Moon 700i V2, YG Acoustics Hailey, Aurender N10, dCS Rossini, Oppo BDP103D (audiopraise board), Ansuz Mainz 8 D2
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January 1, 2022, 04:57 AM #32
Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
Congratulate on your new interconnects, thank you for the review.
i love Cardas cables (i use Cardas Clear cables for the whole system). Unfortunately, so far i didn't have the opportunity to hear or test Clear and beyond cables, so it's great to read your impression of the cables.
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January 1, 2022, 01:36 PM #33
Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
Speaker System : Thiel CS 3.7 - Vitus SIA-025 Mk2 - Aqua Acoustics LinQ - Aqua Acoustics Formula xHD Rev 2 - Fanless Intel NUC + Sbooster Mkll - Farad Super 3 - Paul Pang Quad Switch - Pink Faun LAN cables - Cardas Clear Beyond IC and SC - Furutech DSP 4.1 Power cables - Audioquest Niagara 3000 Power Conditioner - Woodlink Rack - Roon Rock - Qobuz & Tidal.
Headphone Rig : Hifiman HE-1000SE - Kennerton Ondin Mk2 - Chord Hugo 2 - Smartphone - Qobuz & Tidal.
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January 1, 2022, 03:21 PM #34
Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
If there is less harshness with the Diablo plugged into the Niagara 3000, it does look like the harshness is coming from the "wall" power. Offcourse room acoustics can be a factor also.
Maybe something like an Isotek Titan V3/V5 might work well on a Gryphon Diablo 300, it might be even less expensive then different speakercables and interconnects.
Plugging power amps to the Wall power socket I understand, but as the Diablo is an integrated you are also plugging the Pre-amp section to the unfiltered wall socket.
I listened a few times to the Thiel CS 3.7 when the were newly released, always really liked them, but never found them harsh in the high frequencies, same for the Diablo, IMO a very neutral (maybe even slightly darker then neutral) presentation.
By the way, my intention is not to push you in any direction, but I think you have a great set, and should be able to sound great with the cables you have.
Best wishes for the new yearMoon 700i V2, YG Acoustics Hailey, Aurender N10, dCS Rossini, Oppo BDP103D (audiopraise board), Ansuz Mainz 8 D2
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January 3, 2022, 03:51 PM #35
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Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
are gryphon vip cables known to sound bright? before changing anything i would really find out whats the real cause.
from my experience vibration control at the digital rig (everything, streamer, dac, switch psu) has tremendous impact on compression. more than the cables, to my own surprise. (doesnt mean you can skip the cable side)
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February 11, 2022, 03:36 PM #36
Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
Well guys guess what, the Cardas rep came to my place last monday for me to demo Cardas Clear Beyond SC and Clear IC in my system.
I was blown away by the sysnergy between the Cardas cables and my Thiel speakers, glare has completely disappeared and the sound has become so much more engaging with much more density.
I have heard micro details in the bass region that i never heard before with my VIP cables.
I can't imagine how the Clear Beyond ICs would sound in my system
Now i know that my problem comes from my Gryphon silver cabling, i just have to get rid of them after having tried 2 pure Copper brands.
I will try one more combo the Tellurium Q Statement SC and IC and make a decision after that.Speaker System : Thiel CS 3.7 - Vitus SIA-025 Mk2 - Aqua Acoustics LinQ - Aqua Acoustics Formula xHD Rev 2 - Fanless Intel NUC + Sbooster Mkll - Farad Super 3 - Paul Pang Quad Switch - Pink Faun LAN cables - Cardas Clear Beyond IC and SC - Furutech DSP 4.1 Power cables - Audioquest Niagara 3000 Power Conditioner - Woodlink Rack - Roon Rock - Qobuz & Tidal.
Headphone Rig : Hifiman HE-1000SE - Kennerton Ondin Mk2 - Chord Hugo 2 - Smartphone - Qobuz & Tidal.
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February 11, 2022, 06:37 PM #37
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Christian
south: Mark Levinson No. 52 pre, Bricasti M28 amps, Lumin A1, Oppo BDP-205, Pioneer CT-43, Sony SS-AR1 Speakers, Audioquest PCs, Audioquest speaker cables, Audioquest & Iconoclast interconnects, HB Power Design Powerslave Star Galaxy power distributor
north: Vitus SIA-030, Luxman D-10X, Sony TC-KA3ES, Harbeth 40.2, Siltech cables
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February 11, 2022, 09:18 PM #38
Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
“Life’s too short to listen to bad audio.”
Big rig: Brinkmann Taurus DD TT + 12.1 arm + Lyra Etna Lambda SL MC + HRS M3X2/ Cardas Clear Beyond phono/ Stillpoints LPI/ Brinkmann Edison mk2 phono + RöNT II Tube PS/ Synology NAS with Roon + HD Plex linear PSU + Shunyata HD/ AQ Vodka RJ45 + Aqvox Network Switch SE + AQ Diamond RJ45 into DAC/ Brinkmann Nyquist mk2/ Audionet Humboldt/ Cardas Clear Beyond ICs/ Kharma DB9-S 1.1 LS/ Inakustik Reference LS 4004 AIR/ Audioquest Niagara 5000/ Shunyata Alpha power (HC, Analogue, Digital)/ Finite Elemente Pagode Rack/ Stillpoints Ultra SS/ Vicoustic panels + Stillpoints Aperture II.
Small rig: Naim UnitiServe/ Curious USB/ Tidal/ Linn Klimax DS3/ Shunyata Power cable/ Pass Labs INT-60/ Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II/ HiD Diamond 8/ Harbeth 30.2 40th Anniversary/ Shunyata Venom EU7 & Venom 3 HD.
HP rig: MacBookAir/ Tidal/ Auralic Gemini 2000/ Sbooster LPSU/ Audeze LCD-2 Classic + WyWires Red/ Shunyata HD/ Shunyata Hydra 2/ Shunyata Venom.
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March 18, 2022, 10:34 PM #39
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Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
I have a full set of Clear Beyond including power cables, and tonearm cable. I can attest to their neutral, yet musical vibe.
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March 19, 2022, 08:19 AM #40
Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
I much preferred the Cardas Clear Beyond SC and IC as opposed to the TQ Statement in my system.
IMO regarding the Statement IC you really don't get what you pay for, there is a serious difference in overall performance between the Statement SP and the IC.
The Statement IC is the weak link of the two, i did like the Statement SC very smooth sounding but not as much resolution in the bass region as the Cardas Clear Beyond SP.
At the end of my cable shootout the Cardas Clear Beyond were the clear winner and i therefore ordered the SC and XLR IC, should receive them pretty soon.Speaker System : Thiel CS 3.7 - Vitus SIA-025 Mk2 - Aqua Acoustics LinQ - Aqua Acoustics Formula xHD Rev 2 - Fanless Intel NUC + Sbooster Mkll - Farad Super 3 - Paul Pang Quad Switch - Pink Faun LAN cables - Cardas Clear Beyond IC and SC - Furutech DSP 4.1 Power cables - Audioquest Niagara 3000 Power Conditioner - Woodlink Rack - Roon Rock - Qobuz & Tidal.
Headphone Rig : Hifiman HE-1000SE - Kennerton Ondin Mk2 - Chord Hugo 2 - Smartphone - Qobuz & Tidal.
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March 19, 2022, 08:53 PM #41
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Christian
south: Mark Levinson No. 52 pre, Bricasti M28 amps, Lumin A1, Oppo BDP-205, Pioneer CT-43, Sony SS-AR1 Speakers, Audioquest PCs, Audioquest speaker cables, Audioquest & Iconoclast interconnects, HB Power Design Powerslave Star Galaxy power distributor
north: Vitus SIA-030, Luxman D-10X, Sony TC-KA3ES, Harbeth 40.2, Siltech cables
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March 20, 2022, 03:38 PM #42
Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
Speaker System : Thiel CS 3.7 - Vitus SIA-025 Mk2 - Aqua Acoustics LinQ - Aqua Acoustics Formula xHD Rev 2 - Fanless Intel NUC + Sbooster Mkll - Farad Super 3 - Paul Pang Quad Switch - Pink Faun LAN cables - Cardas Clear Beyond IC and SC - Furutech DSP 4.1 Power cables - Audioquest Niagara 3000 Power Conditioner - Woodlink Rack - Roon Rock - Qobuz & Tidal.
Headphone Rig : Hifiman HE-1000SE - Kennerton Ondin Mk2 - Chord Hugo 2 - Smartphone - Qobuz & Tidal.
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March 20, 2022, 05:15 PM #43
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March 20, 2022, 09:11 PM #44
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“Life’s too short to listen to bad audio.”
Big rig: Brinkmann Taurus DD TT + 12.1 arm + Lyra Etna Lambda SL MC + HRS M3X2/ Cardas Clear Beyond phono/ Stillpoints LPI/ Brinkmann Edison mk2 phono + RöNT II Tube PS/ Synology NAS with Roon + HD Plex linear PSU + Shunyata HD/ AQ Vodka RJ45 + Aqvox Network Switch SE + AQ Diamond RJ45 into DAC/ Brinkmann Nyquist mk2/ Audionet Humboldt/ Cardas Clear Beyond ICs/ Kharma DB9-S 1.1 LS/ Inakustik Reference LS 4004 AIR/ Audioquest Niagara 5000/ Shunyata Alpha power (HC, Analogue, Digital)/ Finite Elemente Pagode Rack/ Stillpoints Ultra SS/ Vicoustic panels + Stillpoints Aperture II.
Small rig: Naim UnitiServe/ Curious USB/ Tidal/ Linn Klimax DS3/ Shunyata Power cable/ Pass Labs INT-60/ Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II/ HiD Diamond 8/ Harbeth 30.2 40th Anniversary/ Shunyata Venom EU7 & Venom 3 HD.
HP rig: MacBookAir/ Tidal/ Auralic Gemini 2000/ Sbooster LPSU/ Audeze LCD-2 Classic + WyWires Red/ Shunyata HD/ Shunyata Hydra 2/ Shunyata Venom.
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December 28, 2023, 06:05 PM #45
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Re: Inducing clarity: Cardas Clear Beyond interconnects
I just got the Clear Beyond XLR interconnects to be used from the DAC to the HeadAmp and have the Clear Beyond balanced headphone cable to the Utopia22 and totally agree. These cables keep getting better by the day. Initially I had treble boost presets for a number of tracks but am in the process of taking them out now. There are certain songs , though, where the Tunami Terzo V2 with its imperfections (overhang of notes, slow transient speed) delivers amazingly sounding vocals that the Cardas cable can‘t match for chills. So, I switch interconnects and listen to about 12% of my playlist with the Tunami Terzo V2 and to 88% with the Clear Beyond.
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