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October 21, 2017, 01:39 PM #1
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Gobel Cables
My buddy Elliot in Ft. Lauderdale has become the distributor of Gobel in the USA. While he hasn't yet taken delivery of speakers, supposedly coming in November, he did get his demo cables which includes a 2 meter power cord, 3 meter speaker cable, 1.2 meter USB and 1.2 meter Ethernet cables.
He dropped them off at my house last week for me to burn them in until his demo speakers come in, all but the ethernet cable, and the XLR cable due to come any day.
My system is MSB Select II direct to GS150 and Nola Concert Grands using all Valhalla 2.
First, the build of cables are second to none. I have never seen a cable as well machined and put together as these. Works of art to use an over the top vernacular. And they look awesome.
My initial impressions of the speaker cables have been extremely positive. I have been experimenting with some SS amps in my system, all having better low end control and a little more dimensionality to the upper octaves than my GS150. All I can say is I can't believe the difference in the low end control these cables are giving me. After about 50 hours spatial cues are beyond anything I have heard so far on my system. I was listening to Leonard Cohen and his vocal cords were literally in my head. Surreal experience. These speaker cables are bringing me, on my tube amp, the best I have heard on SS and improving on what my tubes do so well in midrange detail. I really didn't think it would be this big of difference from my V2. And they are still breaking in. I will be doing some more experimenting with D'Ag S250 and CH Precision M1, the former I have tried with my V2 and the latter I have yet to try.
Just put the USB into the system and can't comment yet.
Also no XLR as yet.
Not looking forward to letting them out of my grasp, but right now the price is somewhat out of my range. Since these are predominately European I am not sure how many have had the pleasure to try them but if you can afford them my preliminary impressions are they are awesome.
More to come.
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October 27, 2017, 09:55 PM #2
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Thank you for your efforts and kind words. We should have the balanced cables and 20 amp IEC power cords next week.
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October 28, 2017, 01:30 AM #3
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October 28, 2017, 11:27 AM #4
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Hi Joe,
Once Elliot gets up and running these cables are a must try. They are remarkable and really have taken my system to new levels. I am lucky that it is going to take Elliot some time to get his distributorship demo room up and running and I get to play with these (and some other toys still to come) for a few months. Needless to say I have been more than impressed.
Also, his USB cable just broke in and another level of performance I was not expecting. This week he should be getting the XLR as well as a 20 amp power cord for my GS150 so I will have a full Gobel cable system for trial.
If I can raise the bucks, my first purchase would probably be replacing my Valhalla 2 with these speaker cables. Not cheap, but they are doing things in my system I really never imagined possible. With the MSB Select II everything really reveals itself.
Howie
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October 28, 2017, 11:39 AM #5
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Hi Howie,
Thant's great. It could be fun to try new cables. Let us know how your system settles in and please keep us updated on Elliot's progress.Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
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Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
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October 28, 2017, 03:20 PM #6NORMAN
Custom PC with Memory Player Software Suite/ Modded Denon CD transport>Lampi GG1 (and sometimes PACIFIC) DHT tube Dac> Rowen 850W Isolating Transformer/ Rowen SS Preamp and PA1 monoblocs/Lampi Silk power cond. with Phase flipper> Heil AMT KITHARA & Syrinx in parallel hookup. Swiss cables (Reference line) for PC/interconnects and speaker cables. Goldmund Sweetcord PC. FTA Callisto unpowered USB cable. Basic analog: vintage Lenco L78 TT with Rowen mat, Denon MM cart, iFi iPhono2 with 15v Hynes SR3 LPSU. Synology 12 TB NAS. 2nd system:KenWin Bluetooth speaker 3rd system TBI Millemnium amp with Aulos speakers and SB Duo hookup.
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October 28, 2017, 03:37 PM #7
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October 28, 2017, 05:56 PM #8
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October 28, 2017, 06:14 PM #9
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Will do.
I am excited for him as based on my experience with the cables I think he has a winner to bring to the North America market. I haven't heard the speakers yet. I believe he gets his first pairs, the Epoque Fine and Epoque Reference end of November or December and the tentative plan is to set up the Fine in my home till he gets his studio setup. It will be fun to compare them to my Nola Concert Grands, although the Reference might be the better comparison based on price and size. The technology of the "bending wave" is intriguing but we will see. The other interesting thing is that Elliot has also become a CH Precision dealer and will be getting his first M1 amp hopefully next week which we are also going to "burn in" at my house till he gets his studio setup. That is the amp Gobels uses in Germany but I will be driving it direct with my MSB Select II so some interesting trial in the next couple of months.
As for now I am really enjoying my system. The cables he gave me so far are awesome and getting better with time. Oliver (Gobel) claims 200-300 hours are needed for full break in. Truly a noticeable difference after 100 hours.
Howie
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October 28, 2017, 06:59 PM #10NORMAN
Custom PC with Memory Player Software Suite/ Modded Denon CD transport>Lampi GG1 (and sometimes PACIFIC) DHT tube Dac> Rowen 850W Isolating Transformer/ Rowen SS Preamp and PA1 monoblocs/Lampi Silk power cond. with Phase flipper> Heil AMT KITHARA & Syrinx in parallel hookup. Swiss cables (Reference line) for PC/interconnects and speaker cables. Goldmund Sweetcord PC. FTA Callisto unpowered USB cable. Basic analog: vintage Lenco L78 TT with Rowen mat, Denon MM cart, iFi iPhono2 with 15v Hynes SR3 LPSU. Synology 12 TB NAS. 2nd system:KenWin Bluetooth speaker 3rd system TBI Millemnium amp with Aulos speakers and SB Duo hookup.
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October 28, 2017, 09:27 PM #11
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“Life’s too short to listen to bad audio.”
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October 28, 2017, 10:38 PM #12
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I am just amazed at how many cable vendors there are. I keep reading how the high end audio market is dying, but the explosion of cable vendors seems to contradict that.
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October 28, 2017, 10:59 PM #13
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Bud
Since getting in the cable business takes the least initial investment compared to other "audio components" like speakers, amps, digital gear those guys can keep popping in and out of view and re-invent themselves over and over. Take the guys from Virtual Dynamics now High Fidelity cables as an example.Main - JVC QL-Y7/Denon DL-301 Mk II, Gold Note PH-10, Jays CDT3 Mk3 , Auralic Aries G2.2, Holo May KTE, Supratek Cabernet, Kinki Studio EX-B7 monoblocks, Verity Audio Otello, (2) Rythmik F12SE, Audio Envy IC, SC & PC's, Triode Wire Lab PC's, Inakustik USB and I2S, (2) Puritan Audio Labs PSM-156 with Groundmaster City, Timbernation rack
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October 28, 2017, 11:13 PM #14
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Jack, good point. I guess like for anything else we should do our homework and research before buying. Still, just the fact there are so many cable vendors helps validate the idea of “cables matter”.
Bud
Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD
Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR for source, Denali 2000 (2) for amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson four shelf maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits.
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October 29, 2017, 10:46 AM #15
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Hello Guys,
Like most things in the world different points of view along with varied experiences and training produce different paths and results. The technology behind the Gobel products are specified on the website along with some of the journey. Cables absolutely matter. The mating of cables with the system is as important as any other factors in producing a superior musical result. I am thrilled with the level of performance that Gobel High End products offer and to be honest the cables totally exceeded my expectations in Howie's system which is very different than where we had heard and tested them before.
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October 29, 2017, 11:19 AM #16
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To be honest, I am not sure what % of Gobel's business is based on cables versus his speakers but I assuming (possibly/likely wrong) he likely went the cable route to compliment his speakers. He is not just a "cable vendor" and as a result, to be honest, when I put them in my system, I wasn't expecting what I heard. Also it is not like I was replacing lousy cables with his as I have been using Nordost Valhalla 2 almost since they came to market.
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October 29, 2017, 11:26 AM #17
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It's a mixed blessing, trust me. While I am enjoying the ride it is also a curse. When you hear something so good, you don't want to let go of it. At this point by no means can I afford what Elliot has given me to "burn in" but boy do I want it. My "plan" was to get a second power supply for my MSB Select II. Well Hurricane Irma put a damper in those "plans" as a result of the money having to go into noncovered roof repairs. If and when I get back on my feet however, I now want to find a way to start funding some of these amazing cables if I can. The cables I have, the Nordost Valhalla2 are wonderful, but these are a different league IMHO.
So it's a love hate relationship. Love it when you have it and I am sure will hate it when Elliot takes them back for his studio. So I guess I can just enjoy the moment and relay my experiences as few have heard these.
Best
Howie
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October 29, 2017, 09:47 PM #18
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June 10, 2018, 01:07 PM #20
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Hi Priaptor.
I think we both have something in common, the luck (or misfortune) of being friends with the Göbel importer for our country.
When a month ago he came from Seville to Malaga (they are only 200 Km) to bring me the Ethernet Göbel that I had bought him. He also brought a Göbel XLR, he said just to play for a while, nothing important ......... Well the short continuation of the story is that my new Göbel XLR came to me.
Next Saturday he comes to my house to dismantle the Turntable that I sold him, he "threatens" me to bring another XLR to complete the loom. He also says that he has received and tasted the Göbel speakers and he says they are really fantastic ......... oh my God, the problem is that none of my three children is already living with me to be able to sell at least one .. ...Francisco
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June 11, 2018, 01:39 PM #21
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No Góbel speake, but Góbel speaker cable.Francisco
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Hi Priator,
i am trying a whole set of Gobel Lacorde cable on my CH system and i am really shocked
I have RCA from Vyger to phono
Xlr from P1 to L1
Xlr from L1 to M1
speaker cable
8 power cord
tomorrow will do a report
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June 19, 2019, 01:15 PM #24
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They do for sure look impressive and also very well build.
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June 27, 2019, 07:11 AM #25
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A friend just brought over a pair of Gobel Lacorde Statement Speaker cables. I swapped out my Nordost Valhalla cables, which admittedly i don’t really like but were bought in order to go under a rug, being supremely flat. Oh my god! The difference is absolutely mind blowing. Any brightness or harshness previously present with the Valhalla has completely disappeared. It is almost as if the entire system has been upgraded, i Shxt you not. Will try and summarize more later but for now i have never ever heard such a transformation. I have no idea what the MSRP is, which is good because i am less biased but i presume they aren’t cheap...
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June 27, 2019, 07:57 AM #26
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I tried near all top cable,except Odin and Siltech,and found this absolutely the best and no comparison with others.
Sound very natural,dense and organic,bass perfect and don't dirty the mid bass,full of details and some i never listen,speaker disappear,and scene and depth incredible
Other 3 friends tried in this days and will buy and one shop friend tried one xlr and was shocked and would like to became distributor in italy
Absolutly to try
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June 27, 2019, 08:28 AM #27
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Amplification: Dan D’Agostino Momentum HD and M400’s | Boulder 508
Speakers: Wilson Alexias
Cabling: Nordost Leif, Norse, V2 and Odin
Power and Isolation: Audio-Ultra Home & Room Power Foundation Performance Package with StromTank S1000 | HRS
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