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    Re: Cables? What Brand/Model do you use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post


    True or false?


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    It's hard to argue that it is a false assumption which is why I made the spice analogy.
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    Yeah, I’m fine with it too. Minor tweaking to fit the gear in the room perfectly, is fine by me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Yeah, I’m fine with it too. Minor tweaking to fit the gear in the room perfectly, is fine by me.


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    It has to be fine because so many people are using cables to alter the sound coming out of their speakers. You can call cables filters, tone controls, or spices. All that really matters is that people are happy with the choices they made and they love the sound of their system(s).
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    Re: Cables? What Brand/Model do you use?

    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    It has to be fine because so many people are using cables to alter the sound coming out of their speakers. You can call cables filters, tone controls, or spices. All that really matters is that people are happy with the choices they made and they love the sound of their system(s).
    Agreed.


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    Re: Cables? What Brand/Model do you use?

    so cables are a minor tweaking?
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    Re: Cables? What Brand/Model do you use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post


    True or false?


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    True. Everything in the chain has a character.

    BTW, I using full loom of Enklein David PCs, ICs and SC. Off cable merry go around for long long while.

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    Re: Cables? What Brand/Model do you use?

    Quote Originally Posted by u-sound View Post
    so cables are a minor tweaking?
    if they aren't you've got problems elsewhere ............
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    Re: Cables? What Brand/Model do you use?

    Quote Originally Posted by u-sound View Post
    so cables are a minor tweaking?
    In some cases, more than minor.


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    Sorry to desagree Mike but i think if we don´t achieve the most perfect transmission of the signal, we would never achieve the highest performance of the system. I would say in another words: there is no high end reprodution of sound if we compromise the signal transmission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spock View Post
    Sorry to desagree Mike but i think if we don´t achieve the most perfect transmission of the signal, we would never achieve the highest performance of the system. I would say in another words: there is no high end reprodution of sound if we compromise the signal transmission.
    How is Mike wrong and please define how you achieve the “most perfect transmission of the signal”.
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    Re: Cables? What Brand/Model do you use?

    while the units are interrupting the cables, i am convinced they can improve the sound
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    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    How is Mike wrong and please define how you achieve the “most perfect transmission of the signal”.
    Well, i think Mike knows exactly what cable do. As he said here

    Every once in a while...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    The cables brought this entire system to a whole new level I must say.
    As for the second question, it happens exactly with cables as with any other (active) element of a system. You know you achieve better performance when you hear it!

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    Re: Cables? What Brand/Model do you use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spock View Post
    Well, i think Mike knows exactly what cable do. As he said here

    Every once in a while...



    As for the second question, it happens exactly with cables as with any other (active) element of a system. You know you achieve better performance when you hear it!
    OK. Your definition of “most perfect transmission of the signal” is entirely subjective. You know it when you hear it.
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    Re: Cables? What Brand/Model do you use?

    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    How is Mike wrong and please define how you achieve the “most perfect transmission of the signal”.
    That would be any cable that does not add distortion, noise or interference to the signal and does not change the frequency response of the signal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedskater View Post
    That would be any cable that does not add distortion, noise or interference to the signal and does not change the frequency response of the signal.
    Yes. Totally agree. The problem is all cables have some lost. And some of them are really bad. Not to mention that a good cable can be destroyed by a bad connection!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spock View Post
    Yes. Totally agree. The problem is all cables have some lost.
    True, but for the good cables, the loss is so small that it's hard to measure.

    And some of them are really bad.
    Yep, some of the expensive cables are really bad!

    Not to mention that a good cable can be destroyed by a bad connection!
    Yes, connectors and contact maintenance is a bigger concern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedskater View Post
    True, but for the good cables, the loss is so small that it's hard to measure.


    Yep, some of the expensive cables are really bad!


    Yes, connectors and contact maintenance is a bigger concern.
    There ya go, agreed, not difficult at all ...............
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    Okay!
    Lett me tell you what left me deeply satisfied today.
    I have an audiophile friend who started investing in audio about 2 years ago and built a system for about € 7,000 (Unison Research/Audiovector). A week ago he was willing to invest in "cables" but at the same time he was afraid (especially in power cords), and he asked me how much he should invest, and if it really worth it.
    More than words, I decided to lend him one interconnect and one of my system's resident power cords.

    Just a little while ago, he call me and he was absolutely euphoric saying that he already admitted that the cables could make some difference but never thought it could be so much. He said he was listening to the records he like more and know best, as if it were the first time. He even used an expression that says everything "my system came to life".
    And i listened and think to myself... Yes, I´m right!

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    That’s so awesome. I’m happy for both of you.
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    Thank you Joeinid
    Everything I wrote is true.
    He called me again today to ask to stay with the cables until the next weekend because he already invited 2 friends to visit him and witness the differences!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spock View Post
    Thank you Joeinid
    Everything I wrote is true.
    He called me again today to ask to stay with the cables until the next weekend because he already invited 2 friends to visit him and witness the differences!
    Awesome news. I also didn’t want to believe how big a difference cables could make but now I realize that everything makes a difference.

    It’s nice to see you making converts to our obsession, err hobby.
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    Re: Cables? What Brand/Model do you use?

    cables, cables and more cables....definitely more than spice


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    Did I see here someone comparing cables to tone controls? If so, could someone claim that he/she does not need fancy cables just tone controls to adjust the sound to their liking?

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    Re: Cables? What Brand/Model do you use?

    Tone controls give you more/less bass/treble.
    Cables can optimize/compromise dynamics, transparency, detail, timbre...

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    Wow. All that snakes remind me Indiana Jones

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    Tone controls give you more/less bass/treble.
    Cables can optimize/compromise dynamics, transparency, detail, timbre...
    So... are you saying instead that cables are more like DSP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devg View Post
    cables, cables and more cables....definitely more than spice

    Is this rack setup backwards in the listening room?
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    Re: Cables? What Brand/Model do you use?

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueFox View Post
    Is this rack setup backwards in the listening room?
    yes, to showcase the power of voodoo cables

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devg View Post
    showcase the power of voodoo cables
    I suspect 'voodoo' is just that !
    Cheers ! …. Dave

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    Re: Cables? What Brand/Model do you use?

    Quote Originally Posted by nicoff View Post
    So... are you saying instead that cables are more like DSP?
    Nicoff

    What i am saying is that the signal goes through the cables, and many things could happen in the path.

    Cheers!

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