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so im testing cables i have a few from friends to try. before i sold them i had a decent collection of IC's to compare. i also picked up a $75 pair of Belden 8402. some good cables were here. i was using the belden for about a month straight. Everytime i put another cable in i felt like something was just not right, so id go back to the belden, then i get to my best AQ sky and zen silver ref and i paid alot of money for those, and cant believe this belden is better than all of them. then i get to shindo cable, lent to me by Paul. i look at it, same color same connectors it looks like. plug it in same sound. i had 3 people check my hearing and they all agreed this is the same cable or they thought i never switched it. i believe that was a $1000 shindo cable, so i asked Paul he agreed. so whether or not it is or not, this damn Belden cable for $75 is a world beater. and i also thank Paul for turning me on to them. i now also wired my xovers and speakers with Belden 9497 and laugh at how good this dbl run wire is for speaker cables as well. so good i sold everything else.