Thread: Ansuz Cables & Accessories

D2 is a huge budget for Borresen 03s IMO, how about C2 ?

The C2 is very good. Much better than the original D1. I have to agree though the D2 is the sweet spot IMO especially with the D-TC and the Supreme.

Originally Posted by octadyndude

The C2 is very good. Much better than the original D1. I have to agree though the D2 is the sweet spot IMO especially with the D-TC and the Supreme.

I second George on that! If going with C2 Mainz try to get a D2 Mainz8 power distributor and do not forget Darkz under equipment and cables. If funds allow, D2 is a good step up and D-TC Mainz way beyond that. But C2 is so good, so until comparing with D2, D-TC nothing else comes close.

My best for 2020/Mike

Is D2 much better than Cardas Clear Beyond ?

Thieliste

I am just curious, after almost three years between this forum and Audiogon are you actually going to break down and buy something or just keep spinning around in circles? It's really not as hard as you have been making it.

Originally Posted by Jack

Thieliste

I am just curious, after almost three years between this forum and Audiogon are you actually going to break down and buy something or just keep spinning around in circles? It's really not as hard as you have been making it.

Just waiting patiently for the funds.
Meanwhile that doesn't hold me from exploring what's on the market, and i still have my headphone rig to listen to music.

Originally Posted by Thieliste

Is D2 much better than Cardas Clear Beyond ?

Have not listened to the Cardas but I heard a A2 Mainz better an Odin II when Ansuz series 2 was introduced some years ago albeit in an otherwise full Ansuz and Aavik system.Though i have noticed that mains cables could be very system dependent however with one exception, Ansuz Mainz, which always made a positive impact on any system I heard them introduced in.

A2 being no slouch C2 betters it clearly in all areas and is def worth the extra cost and a D2, well….

Mike

Originally Posted by Mikeoo

Have not listened to the Cardas but I heard a A2 Mainz better an Odin II when Ansuz series 2 was introduced some years ago albeit in an otherwise full Ansuz and Aavik system.Though i have noticed that mains cables could be very system dependent however with one exception, Ansuz Mainz, which always made a positive impact on any system I heard them introduced in.

A2 being no slouch C2 betters it clearly in all areas and is def worth the extra cost and a D2, well….

Mike

Yeah i guess C2 is already very impressive compared to the competition costing much more.

Originally Posted by Thieliste

Is D2 much better than Cardas Clear Beyond ?

I was a long time fan of Cardas cables. I've had everything up to the Clear but not the Clear Beyond. To answer your question, yes I would choose even an Ansuz A2 over the Cardas Clears that I once owned.

Originally Posted by u-sound

thx again, yes, selling is becoming a true option.
no the buyer is german and not conectetd to nordost. he actally is atrader for 2nd hand audiogear who has asian clients. he travels through middle europe and checks if the 2nd gear is in good condition. nearly all gear i sold in recent years was to him. all the biggest of levinson, fm , krell etc. he never payed well, but then again it was always just calling him and within a couple of hours the gear was out of the house and the cash straight in the pocked. every time he asked about the odins, how much i want. because he knows mine ones he can garantie they are not fake ones nor shortened ones and the asians seem to be fans of odin. so finally he offered now to buy them for 40% percent of new ones.

well, i am looking strongly at the borresen 03 as well,....might it be the best just fly up to denmark and knock at the factory door?
full loom d2 + bore03 top deal fight

Great choice if you go for Borresen 03s, i just sold my Thiel CS 3.7s and also want to purchase the 03s.
I know the distributor very well and should get a good discount from him, will probably go for Anzuz cables as well.

Happy New Year to all!


I’ve been following the exchange between u-sound and La Dolce Vita with great interest.


Why is there still so much talk on the web about the Nordost Odin? The simple answer is because it is a very good cable – that runs circles around many others in the niche – and is manufactured by a long established and well respected brand.


Years back when I started this thread my complete system foundation was Nordost. Odin, Valhalla, QBase, QX Quantum’s, Sort Kones, Jumpers and more. I had worked my way up the product range with my first purchase being Blue Heaven cables and pulsar points.

Nordost’s foundation theory works and was quite a wakeup call for the entire industry. Its philosophical position that when you are listening to your Hi Fi system, what you are actually listening to is the AC power that comes out of your wall was revolutionary and controversial in equal order as adjudged by the protagonists and antagonists of the day. Nonetheless the veracity of the philosophy was undeniable to my ears and a fine example of the sort of cathedral thinking the industry desperately needed. That said, the fall out was staggering. Suddenly spending unconscionably large sums of money on Odin cables was actually defensible.


While cathedrals stand for hundreds of years largely unchanged archaeologically and architecturally; construction methods evolve. With the advent of Ansuz Acoustics, chief designer Michael Børresen advanced his earlier work at Nordost taking electrical characteristics of low capacitance and inductance and mechanical concepts of resonance control and pushed the boundaries further whilst adding a suite of noise reduction and suppression technologies. In my own tests I found Ansuz took the best qualities of Nordost, that is, speed, resolution and neutrality and injected a blacker background resulting in more effortless and organic musicality.


Reports in this thread and elsewhere point to various independent parties finding the Ansuz Acoustics A2 power cable superior to the Nordost Odin 2 Supreme Reference power cable. That’s quite a finding when you consider the Odin 2 lists at US$22k (2.5m) versus the Ansuz A2 at US$3k (2m). Even so, given Ansuz cables are accessible and dealers are encouraged to loan them out to qualified customers there is absolutely no excuse for not trying them in your own system to arrive at your own conclusion.

Owners and prospective owners of Borresen Acoustics loudspeakers are particularly encouraged to use Ansuz cables and accessories. This is not only due to obvious synergy (Borresen speakers are wired with Ansuz) but because the effects of various technologies employed are cumulative.


Again – Happy 2020 to all.

flying to Denmark and knocking on the factory door sounds like a great idea.

full loom D2 also sounds like a dream, if it's too much money I would "settle" with D2 on the power side and C2 on the signal side of things. But eventually you would probably want to upgrade to D2 all over...

Originally Posted by u-sound

glad to hear from you leatherneck......was following your u-loop to dtc back to a2

a few questions i have:
is d2 really "better" than odin?

how much discount is possible to get normally for the ansuz stuff? 50% realistic? for full loom d2. got my odins about 40% below msrp ten years back.

While I do agree the D2 is the sweet spot the original D-TC is even better than the D2. I assume the D-TC is no longer in production since the Supreme version is out and available so you may be able to find a demo or new old stock D-TC for the price of a D2. I also recommend nothing shorter than 2M. The longer the better. If you want to get started - start with the foundation being from the wall to the distribution and from there power cords to the components. Then the interconnects and last the speaker cables.

Good Luck

Originally Posted by octadyndude

While I do agree the D2 is the sweet spot the original D-TC is even better than the D2. I assume the D-TC is no longer in production since the Supreme version is out and available so you may be able to find a demo or new old stock D-TC for the price of a D2. I also recommend nothing shorter than 2M. The longer the better. If you want to get started - start with the foundation being from the wall to the distribution and from there power cords to the components. Then the interconnects and last the speaker cables.

Good Luck

I do believe D-TC Mainz is still in production, but Lars can surely confirm this. D-TC Supreme being twice the price of D-TC I guess it will stay in production. The D-TC Mainz in my system gave a jump in SQ that I didn't expect.

Mike

I found when I went with the original D-TC power cord I could play music almost twice as loud as before. That said that was with the MainzD8 distribution and a C1 cord going to the Aavik. When I got the Supreme cord I again could play music twice as loud and by then I had the D-TC distribution and a C2 going to the Aavik. BTW with the Supreme distribution music plays a lot louder too.

There are not too many photos out there of the new Mainz8 DTC SUPREME distribution unit. This photo comes from HIFI EINS Neu KG of Severinstr. 199, 50676 Köln, [Cologne, Germany] who recently held a High End workshop with Borresen, Ansuz and Aavik products.

I'm not sure what the purpose of the rod on top of the unit is. If you know please post.





Source: HiFi Eins in Koeln

Originally Posted by u-sound

What is the powerdistributor the mainz is connectet to?? (left in the picture)

The other distributor seen in the photo appears to be Euro socket design. It only has one plug going to it, the other nine sockets are empty. What the plug is feeding i'm not sure, but its possibly the DC converter for the Borresen 05 speakers this system is connected to.

When I upgraded from a Cisco SG112 switch to an AQVox switch there was a significant improvement. When I replaced the AQVox switch with an Ansuz PowerSwitch there was less of a change. It seemed that what I was hearing now was the impact of the Power section re-enforcing the function of my Ansuz Mainz8 Power Distributor, i.e. lower noise floor.

I realized with Tidal I didn't need a NAS anymore since all the music was available on Tidal. Removing the NAS eliminated the need for a switch. I connected a Nordost Heimdall Ethernet cable from my router to my Naim streamer and removed my Ansuz PowerSwitch along with Ansuz Ethernet cables. The results were surprising. Eliminating thousands of dollars worth of equipment has resulted in more speed and detail, less coloration and better sound stage width and depth.

I have a friend who says that too much processing can suck the life out of the music. In this case, I think he is right.

Hallo Guys, sadly I will be selling my power cables P2 1,5m and A2 4m. If someone is interested, feel free to write me a message. If this is against the rules, please erase this post.

Originally Posted by Leatherneck

When I upgraded from a Cisco SG112 switch to an AQVox switch there was a significant improvement. When I replaced the AQVox switch with an Ansuz PowerSwitch there was less of a change. It seemed that what I was hearing now was the impact of the Power section re-enforcing the function of my Ansuz Mainz8 Power Distributor, i.e. lower noise floor.

I realized with Tidal I didn't need a NAS anymore since all the music was available on Tidal. Removing the NAS eliminated the need for a switch. I connected a Nordost Heimdall Ethernet cable from my router to my Naim streamer and removed my Ansuz PowerSwitch along with Ansuz Ethernet cables. The results were surprising. Eliminating thousands of dollars worth of equipment has resulted in more speed and detail, less coloration and better sound stage width and depth.

I have a friend who says that too much processing can suck the life out of the music. In this case, I think he is right.

Wow, that’s interesting and hard to sometimes challenge simple.


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I just added Ansuz C2 power cables and AC block to my Naim system. In the past I've never heard power cables make any difference. These however are quite remarkable; the total bass extension and overall "presence" (impact) of the music is significantly improved. I've gone from a disbeliever to a believer in the right ac handling.

May past experiences are Naim Powerlines, and an Audience PDC ac block.

Hi,

I have gradually been adding DTC Mainz to my system and albeit their 'high' cost they really do magic in the appropriate system. I have not yet seen (heard) any reason to replace my U-300. Otherwise I would vote for C2 Mainz as the best bang for the buck mains cable from the Ansuz offerings. I would even skip on D2 Mainz and rather put effort on the distribution box. The wall to the distribution box mains is by way far the most important as you set the whole 'tone' of the Ansuz delivery right there.
For us believers it is easy to kudos Ansuz but having others believe this effects brought by Ansuz is near impossible until they try them selfs.

Keep it up and enjoy/Mike

Originally Posted by Mikeoo

Hi,

I have gradually been adding DTC Mainz to my system and albeit their 'high' cost they really do magic in the appropriate system. I have not yet seen (heard) any reason to replace my U-300. Otherwise I would vote for C2 Mainz as the best bang for the buck mains cable from the Ansuz offerings. I would even skip on D2 Mainz and rather put effort on the distribution box. The wall to the distribution box mains is by way far the most important as you set the whole 'tone' of the Ansuz delivery right there.

For us believers it is easy to kudos Ansuz but having others believe this effects brought by Ansuz is near impossible until they try them selfs.

Keep it up and enjoy/Mike

Hello Mike,


Congrats on the addition of Ansuz DTC Mainz cable to your system. The best I could afford to buy was the C2 cables and I’ve been very pleased with them. Overall they sounded better to me than the earlier generation D-level Mainz cable. Considering the earlier generations Mainz D was considerably more expensive than the C2 I feel the C2 represents excellent bang for the buck. I also note that if one moves further up the range i.e. to D2, DTC or DTC Supreme then the active noise suppressing elements of these cables require additional investment in an Ansuz PowerBox.


I recently had a chat with Lars and you’ll be pleased to know that despite the Ansuz DTC Darkz no longer being in the catalog dealers can still special order them from Ansuz if they have demand. I’ve read you’ve been scooping them up from the market as they become available!


The innovation continues at Ansuz with them recently releasing new products such as the Sparkz TC2 and the Resonator as seen in the below photos.


Continued innovation and investment is happening at Borresen Acoustics and Aavik Acoustics to. The new Borresen Z-01 which is significantly changed from the prototype shown at RMAF last year is due in June. Furthermore, work is in progress for four (4) new separate products from Aavik, a streamer, DAC, Phono stage and a new entry integrated amplifier positioned below the U-150.










Photos Above: Source Cong Audio, Ansuz partner, Viet Nam. Photos show the new Ansuz resonator sitting on top of a Ansuz Mainz8 distributor, the packaging of the Ansuz Resonator and the new Ansuz Sparkz TC2 harmonizer.

Two new reviews from a czech reviewer

ANSUZ MAINZ C2

ANSUZ MAINZ8 D2 + MAINZ D2

So Emil, what can you tell us about the DTC2 series?

Mike