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    Re: Amps that sound great with Avantgarde speakers ?

    Can't avoid thinking about Thomas Mayer amps with horns
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    Amps that sound great with Avantgarde speakers ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boogieman View Post
    Anyone hear the Avantgardes at the latest Axpona?
    1. How good, on a scale of 1 (worst) and 10 (best), did the speakers sound with the Esoteric 30W class A amps in reaching the Avantgardes' full potential?
    2. How close did the Avantgarde / Esoteric come to the sound of tubes?

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    This is absolutely not a pairing I would recommend. It’s possible to get the combo sounding respectable with a lot of work on the DSP (which is part of the bass modules). But it’s not a pairing I would recommend.

    To answer your second question, not at all close.

    I have a First Watt SIT-3 coming once they are built (later this year). That should be fun to try.

    You really hear the glory of tubes through horns.
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    Re: Amps that sound great with Avantgarde speakers ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Golum View Post
    Can't avoid thinking about Thomas Mayer amps with horns
    Those could be amazing sounding.
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    Re: Amps that sound great with Avantgarde speakers ?

    Thank you. So do Avantgarde's sound better with the more clean, modern tube sound like Zanden, or with the more classical, "toobey" sound, like the golden sounding Conrad Johnson of old? Thanks.

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    Re: Amps that sound great with Avantgarde speakers ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boogieman View Post
    Thank you. So do Avantgarde's sound better with the more clean, modern tube sound like Zanden, or with the more classical, "toobey" sound, like the golden sounding Conrad Johnson of old? Thanks.
    Either.


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    Re: Amps that sound great with Avantgarde speakers ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boogieman View Post
    Anyone hear the Avantgardes at the latest Axpona?
    1. How good, on a scale of 1 (worst) and 10 (best), did the speakers sound with the Esoteric 30W class A amps in reaching the Avantgardes' full potential?
    2. How close did the Avantgarde / Esoteric come to the sound of tubes?

    Thank you
    I heard the AG speakers several times with Esoteric Class A 30 watts ( using as amp ) pairing with Audio Research Ref 6 as pre. Loved that combo not sweet as Tube amp but I could live with it for sure. - This words coming from anti Esoteric fan


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    Re: Amps that sound great with Avantgarde speakers ?

    I've had my combo for 15 years with no changes except for new tubes every few years - Avantgarde Duos and Cary 2A3 signature monoblocks. Started with KR tubes which were stock with the Carys and moved to Shuguang and now Psvane Treasures as the KR's have grown very pricey. I bought both the Duos and Cary's used, so they are closer to 20 years old. Jim probably remembers when the Duos first came out.

    I've heard the Thomas Mayer with the Pnoe Horns. Wonderful sound, but the Pnoes are 116 db efficient, a great match to the 1 watt Thomas Mayers. My Avantgarde Duos are something like 103 db and the Cary 2A3s are about 3-4 watts.

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    Re: Amps that sound great with Avantgarde speakers ?

    I have a hunch of a SS that may work well:






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    Amps that sound great with Avantgarde speakers ?

    I’ve been on the hunt for a SS amp that would work great with Avantgarde for the better part of 4 years now. So far, I’ve tried:

    * Pass
    * Luxman AB
    * Luxman A
    * Gryphon
    * Constellation (was superb on AG)
    * Soulution
    * NAIM
    * T+A
    * McIntosh
    * Bryston
    * Ayre
    * Numerous others...

    None were as good as tube amps on the AG’s.

    But I may have found one that is a real competitor and is really, an unlikely contender on paper. After two days, I have to say it’s a superb match. It’s got meat on the bones, smooth on top (or “slightly dark” as JV called it in his review) and does not sound “transistory”.

    The winner (so far)....

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    Re: Amps that sound great with Avantgarde speakers ?

    Thats cool Mike.

    I can't wait for the First Watt SIT-3 to start shipping tho. I have a feeling its going to be a big winner for AG's
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