Tesla Model Y Test Drive

Just want to say…I love talking about cars. Almost as much as audio. Not trying to piss anyone off. It’s nothing personal. I have friends who love their Tesla’s.

I love anything with four wheels (or two) and a motor or battery pack thingy.

I think it all comes down to how you envision your car and how you will use it.

And yes, old habits die hard too. From posters on your wall of the Countach or a 308 or 911 when you’re a kid to spending your entire life idolizing Ferrari, Lamborghini, Porsche and others to now switch to a big golf cart with a roof and a farting noise generator is hard for an old fart (no pun intended) like me.
 
No switching for me ... :)

its like class D and digital, i can choose to have or not , EV’s are not for me too many piston and cam swaps over the years to get into a one note Hummer.. :)

But when” they” drive gas up to 10.00 a gal most will end up with one and then cry blood when charging rates go up to compensate for lost gas sales and taxes.. Yep 1K + a month to charge a family of EV’s May look reasonable to those born into the stupidity of it all ...!



Regards
 
vortrex said:
Only fast in a straight line? Which model are you referring to?

Model S is already 405 mile range. Further than probably any gas car. .
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Your kidding right. My previous Porsche Cayenne Hybrid and my current BMW X5 both would get over 500 miles to a fill up.
 
still-one said:
Your kidding right. My previous Porsche Cayenne Hybrid and my current BMW X5 both would get over 500 miles to a fill up.
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No I’m not kidding. Notice I said probably and was not talking about hybrids. I looked it up, your BMW can do 503 miles. Congrats!
 
a.wayne said:
No switching for me ... :)

its like class D and digital, i can choose to have or not , EV’s are not for me too many piston and cam swaps over the years to get into a one note Hummer.. :)

But when” they” drive gas up to 10.00 a gal most will end up with one and then cry blood when charging rates go up to compensate for lost gas sales and taxes.. Yep 1K + a month to charge a family of EV’s May look reasonable to those born into the stupidity of it all ...!



Regards
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LOL, $1000 a month to charge your cars... Hilarious. With my electrical rate and local gas prices (back when it was cheaper) I think it works out where I pay about 50% less than gas.
 
vortrex said:
No I’m not kidding. Notice I said probably and was not talking about hybrids. I looked it up, your BMW can do 503 miles. Congrats!
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Under my normal driving conditions which is a mixture of highway and limited traffic lights 500 is normal.

Also my brother and his wife have driven in from Colorado a few times in the last year in their Audi A7 and their S7. The range for both of those is over 500 too. Many vehicles with at least a 19 gallon tank can get 500.
 
still-one said:
Under my normal driving conditions which is a mixture of highway and limited traffic lights 500 is normal.

Also my brother and his wife have driven in from Colorado a few times in the last year in their Audi A7 and their S7. The range for both of those is over 500 too. Many vehicles with at least a 19 gallon tank can get 500.
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I guess a big tank is good for gas cars but with electric you have a “full tank” when you wake up every morning so big range is not as important IMHO. How many people are driving over 300-400 miles a day? Basically nobody unless you’re on a trip. Then how many people on a trip are driving more than 600-800 miles a day? Even much fewer. So if you can’t stop once for a charge then gas is definitely best for you. I prefer never having to go to gas stations. Waste of time.
 
My Jeep Grand Cherokee can supposedly do over 600. I've never done over 500 without stopping for a break anyways.

The 2020 Jeep Grand Cherokee has a fuel efficiency of 19 miles per gallon in the city and 26 miles per gallon on the highway when equipped with its 3.6-liter V-6 engine. This vehicle's fuel tank has room for 24.6 gallons so that you can have a maximum driving range of approximately 639 miles.
 
"This vehicle's fuel tank has room for 24.6 gallons so that you can have a maximum driving range of approximately 639 miles." Locally that works out to $98.15 at my nearest gas station.

I have just over 3100 miles on my model 3 in the six month since purchase. With 1000 mile of free charging at a Tesla super charger. That leaves 2100 miles I charge at home. Looking at my last years electric bill from February-August compared to this year. I figure my 2100 miles has cost me around $75.00. Just a close guess. But, pretty close I think. So, 639 miles for $98.00 or 2100 miles for around $75.00. I guess I don't quite get you point?!
 
Darrel said:
"This vehicle's fuel tank has room for 24.6 gallons so that you can have a maximum driving range of approximately 639 miles." Locally that works out to $98.15 at my nearest gas station.

I have just over 3100 miles on my model 3 in the six month since purchase. With 1000 mile of free charging at a Tesla super charger. That leaves 2100 miles I charge at home. Looking at my last years electric bill from February-August compared to this year. I figure my 2100 miles has cost me around $75.00. Just a close guess. But, pretty close I think. So, 639 miles for $98.00 or 2100 miles for around $75.00. I guess I don't quite get you point?!
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Even if it was the reverse and electric was more than gas I’d still go electric for a daily driver! Love not wasting time pumping gas, especially in the MI winter.
 
Mike said:
Just want to say…I love talking about cars. Almost as much as audio. Not trying to piss anyone off. It’s nothing personal. I have friends who love their Tesla’s.

I love anything with four wheels (or two) and a motor or battery pack thingy.

I think it all comes down to how you envision your car and how you will use it.

And yes, old habits die hard too. From posters on your wall of the Countach or a 308 or 911 when you’re a kid to spending your entire life idolizing Ferrari, Lamborghini, Porsche and others to now switch to a big golf cart with a roof and a farting noise generator is hard for an old fart (no pun intended) like me.
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carshark.org ;)
 
All the arguments aside, if Tesla can somehow pull itself together and stop rolling out cheap looking and feeling interiors, they might attract more people. I’ve gotten in a few Tesla and every time I couldn’t wait to get out. To be fair, I also thought Maserati Gibli interior is terrible too when I had it for merely 2 months (Tesla is worse though).

BTW what’s so great about one screen thing? It’s a car, easy access to utilities trounces everything else. You as a driver don’t want to hop a few times just to change your suspension mode. One touch should be the name of the game. Like below.

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Darrel said:
"This vehicle's fuel tank has room for 24.6 gallons so that you can have a maximum driving range of approximately 639 miles." Locally that works out to $98.15 at my nearest gas station.

I have just over 3100 miles on my model 3 in the six month since purchase. With 1000 mile of free charging at a Tesla super charger. That leaves 2100 miles I charge at home. Looking at my last years electric bill from February-August compared to this year. I figure my 2100 miles has cost me around $75.00. Just a close guess. But, pretty close I think. So, 639 miles for $98.00 or 2100 miles for around $75.00. I guess I don't quite get you point?!
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My post was about range not economy. 1000 promotional miles from Tesla has little to do with the topic. There were/are also government Tax Credits that can also enter the conversation then.

It does cost cheaper to run an EV, at least with the average KWh being at approximately 13 cents ($0.13) and gasoline prices being around $3.40 average for regular.


"What is the cost to charge a Tesla Model 3?

The Standard Range Model 3 comes with a 50 kWh battery and 263 miles of range. Both the Long Range and Performance Model 3s come with an 82 kWh battery. The Long Range taps out at 353 miles of range, while the Performance model has 315 miles of range.

If you purchase the 2021 Standard Range Model 3, you can expect to pay about $7.65 to fully charge the battery. That brings the cost per mile to about $0.03, or $2.91 per 100 miles.

To completely charge the 2021 Long Range and Performance models, it would cost $12.54. That’s about $0.036 per mile for the Long Range, and $0.04 for the Performance model."



My Grand Cherokee has a combined average of 21 mpg which works out to be $0.16 per mile at $3.40 for regular.


I work from home so to me it doesn't matter one way or the other....


There is no way that our grids can support everyone going EV and will need major overhauls and upgrades. There will need to be many more charging stations as well. All of that will translate into higher costs down the road. Cost of energy is also rising due to inflationary pressures and has doubled over the last few decades.

Enjoy the EV at the early stages while they really are cheaper than their gasoline predecessors.
 
kzhtoo said:
All the arguments aside, if Tesla can somehow pull itself together and stop rolling out cheap looking and feeling interiors, they might attract more people. I’ve gotten in a few Tesla and every time I couldn’t wait to get out. To be fair, I also thought Maserati Gibli interior is terrible too when I had it for merely 2 months (Tesla is worse though).

BTW what’s so great about one screen thing? It’s a car, easy access to utilities trounces everything else. You as a driver don’t want to hop a few times just to change your suspension mode. One touch should be the name of the game. Like below.

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I think the interior is great. The seats are so comfortable, better than any car I’ve been in. I like the simplicity of the design. Easy to clean too! That console is ridiculous. I understand though, old people are resistant to change especially when it involves technology.
 
TheOctopus said:
My post was about range not economy. 1000 promotional miles from Tesla has little to do with the topic. There were/are also government Tax Credits that can also enter the conversation then.

It does cost cheaper to run an EV, at least with the average KWh being at approximately 13 cents ($0.13) and gasoline prices being around $3.40 average for regular.


"What is the cost to charge a Tesla Model 3?

The Standard Range Model 3 comes with a 50 kWh battery and 263 miles of range. Both the Long Range and Performance Model 3s come with an 82 kWh battery. The Long Range taps out at 353 miles of range, while the Performance model has 315 miles of range.

If you purchase the 2021 Standard Range Model 3, you can expect to pay about $7.65 to fully charge the battery. That brings the cost per mile to about $0.03, or $2.91 per 100 miles.

To completely charge the 2021 Long Range and Performance models, it would cost $12.54. That’s about $0.036 per mile for the Long Range, and $0.04 for the Performance model."



My Grand Cherokee has a combined average of 21 mpg which works out to be $0.16 per mile at $3.40 for regular.


I work from home so to me it doesn't matter one way or the other....


There is no way that our grids can support everyone going EV and will need major overhauls and upgrades. There will need to be many more charging stations as well. All of that will translate into higher costs down the road. Cost of energy is also rising due to inflationary pressures and has doubled over the last few decades.

Enjoy the EV at the early stages while they really are cheaper than their gasoline predecessors.
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What makes you think the grid won’t be able to handle the charging at night? I would love to know how much capacity is freed up at night compared to the day. If the avg person is driving 45 miles a day that’s only 1hr of home charging. Even if the grid was an issue the cars could all be staggered into charging slots.
 
vortrex said:
LOL, $1000 a month to charge your cars... Hilarious. With my electrical rate and local gas prices (back when it was cheaper) I think it works out where I pay about 50% less than gas.
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Read again very slowly what you pay now is not what your gonna pay in the future when everyone is on Electric ..!

Spider to the fly ..!




:)
 
Darrel said:
"This vehicle's fuel tank has room for 24.6 gallons so that you can have a maximum driving range of approximately 639 miles." Locally that works out to $98.15 at my nearest gas station.

I have just over 3100 miles on my model 3 in the six month since purchase. With 1000 mile of free charging at a Tesla super charger. That leaves 2100 miles I charge at home. Looking at my last years electric bill from February-August compared to this year. I figure my 2100 miles has cost me around $75.00. Just a close guess. But, pretty close I think. So, 639 miles for $98.00 or 2100 miles for around $75.00. I guess I don't quite get you point?!
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Hey Darrel it’s Free from God and his angels ... :)
 
vortrex said:
I think the interior is great. The seats are so comfortable, better than any car I’ve been in. I like the simplicity of the design. Easy to clean too! That console is ridiculous. I understand though, old people are resistant to change especially when it involves technology.
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Only when it involves being coerced and taxes ...!



:)
 
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