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November 17, 2023, 01:10 PM #1Senior Member
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Las Vegas Grand Prix starts off as a sh*tshow...
Well, the much-hyped and incredibly-expensive Las Vegas Grand Prix started off as a veritable sh*tshow. Only 9 minutes into FP1, Carlos Sainz runs over a steel drain cover at >300 kph that does extensive damage to his car's underbody, engine and battery system.
Then, because Sainz will now require a new battery system, he's been penalized...10 seconds on his grid position.
And here's the icing on the cake, because FP2 got started about 5 hours late, after midnight, and now it's the next day, the organizers kicked all of the remaining spectators out of the grandstands that were waiting to watch FP2 once it got underway....
What a sh*show...and, after F1 invested >$500 million into this event.
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November 17, 2023, 03:09 PM #2Senior Member
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Re: Las Vegas Grand Prix starts off as a sh*tshow...
F1 = Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Stephen, perhaps all this 'under-tow' drama will be good, after all Vegas is all about grabbing attention !Cheers ! …. Dave
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November 17, 2023, 05:15 PM #3Senior Member
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Re: Las Vegas Grand Prix starts off as a sh*tshow...
Originally Posted by Puma Cat
Well, the much-hyped and incredibly-expensive Las Vegas Grand Prix started off as a veritable sh*tshow. Only 9 minutes into FP1, Carlos Sainz runs over a steel drain cover at >300 kph that does extensive damage to his car's underbody, engine and battery system.
Then, because Sainz will now require a new battery system, he's been penalized...10 seconds on his grid position.
And here's the icing on the cake, because FP2 got started about 5 hours late, after midnight, and now it's the next day, the organizers kicked all of the remaining spectators out of the grandstands that were waiting to watch FP2 once it got underway....
What a sh*show...and, after F1 invested >$500 million into this event.
This whole thing has been a mess from how they threatened to sue local restaurants, failed to inspect the track per F! rules, told Ferrari "tough crap" on the car issue due track issues, having to dump tickets since few were buying the crazy and more.
I expected better from F1 as an organization after all these decades of putting races on."We are all billionaires because of the huge piles sweet dough rolling in from our participation in the ongoing campaign to suck your collective brains through a stirrer-straw." - PTA Editorial Staff
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November 17, 2023, 07:44 PM #4Senior Member
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Re: Las Vegas Grand Prix starts off as a sh*tshow...
I remember the first IMSA race in Columbus, Ohio, in 1985 iirc. A miserable street course the drivers did not like. At that time these closed wheel race cars were essentially unlimited in their drivetrains and running gear (1000+HP, ground effects out the wahzoo, etc). Similar to Le Mans cars. Long story short, a few weeks before the race while IMSA crews were in town finalizing the course and setting up where corner workers and safety personnel were to be deployed, 3 or 4 cars ran some reconnaissance laps. A track rat friend of mine worked in downtown Columbus on High Street where part of the course ran. He said when the cars tried to run hot laps they were sucking the 200+# manhole covers 100 feet into the air. That had to be a sight to behold.
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November 18, 2023, 03:31 PM #5Senior Member
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Re: Las Vegas Grand Prix starts off as a sh*tshow...
I'll be up along with a few buddies coming over at 11:30pm for pre-race & then the shit show at 1AM
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P.S. I agree --just messing with ya.
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November 18, 2023, 04:50 PM #6Senior Member
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Re: Las Vegas Grand Prix starts off as a sh*tshow...
Yep, agreed on all points. This is what as known as a "failure of leadership", plain and simple. Originally Posted by MichaelsMinute
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November 18, 2023, 05:09 PM #7Senior Member
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Don't forget the toilet paper ! Originally Posted by Vintage_Tube
I'll be up along with a few buddies coming over at 11:30pm for pre-race & then the shit show at 1AM
Cheers ! …. Dave
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November 18, 2023, 05:10 PM #8Senior Member
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Re: Las Vegas Grand Prix starts off as a sh*tshow...
Just go to the USGP at COTA. Exceptional track and venue, fun city to visit. Teams and drivers routinely give the race high marks.
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November 18, 2023, 05:22 PM #9Senior Member
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Re: Las Vegas Grand Prix starts off as a sh*tshow...
Or....go to the Belgian Grand Prix at Spa! 👍😎
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November 18, 2023, 05:53 PM #10Senior Member
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Re: Las Vegas Grand Prix starts off as a sh*tshow...
That's a nice track (been there) or for watching the "beautuful people" a stop at Monoco (been) is a must like Monza (been). Wish Hockenheim (been several times) wasn't carved up and on the calendar (never gonna happen). Originally Posted by Puma Cat
I told myself I'd never go to a US race after I attended the inaugural Indy race in September 2000. However; things have changed, and Austin could be on my radar.
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Re: Las Vegas Grand Prix starts off as a sh*tshow...
Pretty clear the intended audience is not the USA based on the timing of the race. I will only see a headline and will then read it in passing.
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November 18, 2023, 06:56 PM #12Senior Member
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Re: Las Vegas Grand Prix starts off as a sh*tshow...
Yup, you've got that right... Originally Posted by crwilli
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Re: Las Vegas Grand Prix starts off as a sh*tshow...
Not a great weekend but the race was very good with lot's of action on the track
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November 19, 2023, 07:47 AM #14Senior Member
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Re: Las Vegas Grand Prix starts off as a sh*tshow...
One of the better F1 races.
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November 19, 2023, 09:02 AM #15Senior Member
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Re: Las Vegas Grand Prix starts off as a sh*tshow...
Let me guess Max won?
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Re: Las Vegas Grand Prix starts off as a sh*tshow...
For all of the COTA/Austin comments, I went earlier this year and it was great. Pleasant city to visit and good venue. This year it was miserably hot on Friday (96 or so) and even worse on Saturday due to the humidity (93, but felt much worse), but other than that, it was great. Everything worked well - despite the fact that 420,000 people went through the turnstiles on each of Saturday and Sunday.
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November 19, 2023, 10:05 AM #17Senior Member
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Re: Las Vegas Grand Prix starts off as a sh*tshow...
Yep -- in 1st turn -- he forced Leclerc off track to take the lead and was given a 5 second penalty & served it at a pit stop. His car was so fast - as usual sealing his win. Perez had worked his way past Leclerc for second but Leclerc grabbed it back at the finish to deny Red Bull its seventh 1-2 finish of the season.. A heck of a race IMO. Originally Posted by crwilli
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November 19, 2023, 10:24 AM #18Senior Member
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Re: Las Vegas Grand Prix starts off as a sh*tshow...
The most important thing as far as Red Bull was concerned regarding Perez was that Checo secured enough points to lock up 2nd place in the 2023 F1 Drivers Championship, so Red Bull finished 1-2 in the Drivers Championship this year for the first time in their history. I’ll add that aside from Max, it is a fact that Checo won twice as many Grands Prix than any other driver this year. Originally Posted by Vintage_Tube
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Spot on PC -- will mean a lot to RB with extra $$ Perez will bring in. Originally Posted by Puma Cat
Williams is hanging at 7th -- Personally, I don't want them to fail & bow out of F1.
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Me, neither. I’ve been very impressed with their progress this year under new team principal, James Vowles; it was a disaster under Claire. And, Alex Albon has been impressive on a number of very good drives. He’s a genuine talent, IMHO. Originally Posted by Vintage_Tube
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Yes, Max won but the race itself was one of the best of the year. It’s not great when a driver dominates as much as Max has recently; and, let’s not forget the Schumacher and Hamilton years.
Lastly, having a great car doesn’t guarantee a win. Checo has the same car as Max but his performance is not close to the 3 time champion._______________
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Re: Las Vegas Grand Prix starts off as a sh*tshow...
You guys are die hards to watch at that hour.
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Re: Las Vegas Grand Prix starts off as a sh*tshow...
army-basic-training-hoorah.jpg Originally Posted by crwilli
Best to you Sir,
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