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December 1, 2021, 12:54 PM #1
Aurender N20 Review
Review | Aurender N20 Music Server / Streamer - Reviews - Audiophile Style
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December 1, 2021, 05:23 PM #2
Re: Aurender N20 Review
Not surprised with this review. Have a friend with an N20 and his system sounds sublime. He upgraded from the N10 and is using the EMM top DAC. It’s a fabulous combo.
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Mike
Amplification: MBL 6010D, MBL 9008A Monos
Analog: Kuzma R, Kuzma 4Point (11”), MSL Ultra Eminent EX
Phono Pre: Pass XP-27
Digital: Esoteric N01XD Esoteric K05
Speakers: MBL 101E MKII
Subwoofers: REL Carbon Specials
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December 2, 2021, 05:50 PM #3
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November 1, 2023, 04:44 PM #4
Re: Aurender N20 Review
I'd like to reply to the N20 post even though it's been a couple of years since the last post. Mike, it was great seeing you at the Toronto Audiofest btw. I just want someone to clarify that by adding a high quality ethernet switch, for example, a Nordost Qnet/QSource, or Melco S10 to the N20 makes that much of a difference in sound quality wrt streaming Qobuz and/or listening to stored files on the Aurender. Are the improvements subtle, or drastic? Or is more wise to budget towards a DJM giga foil, upgraded power supply with high quality ethernet cable? Then take the extra money and start budgeting towards a master clock in the 6,000 range? Thank you kindly.
GeneGene
Preamp: Spectral DMC-30SS series 2
Amp: Spectral DMA-300SV
Streamer: Aurender N20
Dac: Metronome Le DAC 2
Streaming: Ediscreation Fiber Box II Extreme/Ediscreation Firebird LPS
Speakers: Vimberg Amea
Cables: MIT 2C3D Level One speaker cable/Furutech NCF power cables/Flux-50 G NCF Power Filters
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November 1, 2023, 05:46 PM #5
Re: Aurender N20 Review
Hi Gene,
I've done videos on my experimenting with DOZENS of switches and combo of switches from $27 to $8,000. I've tried everything from GigaFoil's to EXT1's. I've tried upgraded power cables, power conditioners and power supplies.
At the end of the day there are too many variables between individual houses and components for there to be a blanket answer for you.
I will say there is a clear different in the sound between switches cheap or expensive. In fact even though I am currently running an $8,000 switch, there is still a noticeable improvement by running a trio of 3 particular inexpensive switches by the wall, then running my 5m cable to my expensive switch where the system is located.
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November 1, 2023, 07:43 PM #6
Re: Aurender N20 Review
Thank you Mike. That makes sense what you're saying. Forgot to mention that at the Toronto Audiofest, the room where you collaborated with Audio by Mark Jones sounded really dialed in with the Clarisys Audio speakers.
Gene
Preamp: Spectral DMC-30SS series 2
Amp: Spectral DMA-300SV
Streamer: Aurender N20
Dac: Metronome Le DAC 2
Streaming: Ediscreation Fiber Box II Extreme/Ediscreation Firebird LPS
Speakers: Vimberg Amea
Cables: MIT 2C3D Level One speaker cable/Furutech NCF power cables/Flux-50 G NCF Power Filters
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November 1, 2023, 07:45 PM #7
Re: Aurender N20 Review
My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
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November 2, 2023, 12:40 PM #8
Re: Aurender N20 Review
Hi Gene,
Yes, they really matter. Turns out "digital streaming" is susceptible to a slew of noise factors (including how they're powered) including low-source and high-source leakage impedance current, deterministic jitter, threshold jitter, phase noise and sources of noise that result in timing errors.
They are also generally very sensitive to vibration, as this impacts their clocks.
With respect to improvements provided by audio-grade Ethernet switches, I'd say the range of improvement range from "notable" to "significant" (not sure that "drastic" would be the right adjective).
Other factors that are used with switches that impact their performance with audible effects are: their power supplies (SMPS are generally pretty bad as they are a source of low-source and high-source leakage impedance current, which cause threshold jitter), the power cords used to power them, and the Ethernet cables used with them.
A great article about the factors that impact Ethernet switches for audio applications is by John Swenson, who designed Uptone Audio's EtherREGEN. My recommendation is to read this article thoroughly.
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