Thread: Aurender and Amazon Music

hello, anyone know when the aurender players will be able to natively communicate/stream/integrate with Amazon Music like it does with Tidal and the Qobuz? Thanks!

I don't. Usually Auri is quick on responding if you email Aurender your question.

I don’t think that’s on the agenda. They DO have some exciting things coming however.

The only thing exciting Aurender can do for me and many others is to embrace Roon. It is something Aurender’s customers have requested for a very long time. C’mon Auri, stop being stubborn and get on the Roon bandwagon!

The only thing exciting Aurender can do for me and many others is to embrace Roon. It is something Aurender’s customers have requested for a very long time. C’mon Auri, stop being stubborn and get on the Roon bandwagon!

Originally Posted by Projectman

The only thing exciting Aurender can do for me and many others is to embrace Roon. It is something Aurender’s customers have requested for a very long time. C’mon Auri, stop being stubborn and get on the Roon bandwagon!

From their perspective, Roon is noisy. All of the pretty hi res pics and graphics and horsepower required to run Roon creates noise. I’ve talked to Harry, Ari and the Aurender guys Ad nauseam about Roon and they are obsessed with SOUND FIRST. Roon is a sonic compromise in the opinions due to the noise it creates. From everything Aurender does, their focus is SOUND FIRST.

I run both Roon and Aurender W20SE/ACS10 at home. There is a clear sonic advantage to Aurender IMO. The Roon interface is gorgeous, no doubt, so I use Roon in my second system where it’s easy user interface works great for my wife and kids.


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@Mike. Please help me understand. Arent all artwork processing and Roon housekeeping tasks done on your Roon server? How could having Roon running on your network impact the sound on the Aurender? Does Aurender assume that dCS, Bricasti, McIntosh, Bryston, Auralic, PS Audio, Linn, and many others don’t care about great sound? They all support Roon and their users don’t seem to have any complaints. I understand early on there were questions about Roon not sounding as good as a native application with certain streamers but those have seemed to have died off.

Im not trying to argue Aurender’s point, but I don’t understand their explanation. Is this really a money issue from Aurender? Shouldn’t the user have the choice to use Conductor or Roon and decide for themselves? I have owned Lumin, PS Audio, Auralic, and other streamer/renderers and could tell no difference running Roon or another application with each device.

Originally Posted by Projectman

@Mike. Please help me understand. Arent all artwork processing and Roon housekeeping tasks done on your Roon server? How could having Roon running on your network impact the sound on the Aurender? Does Aurender assume that dCS, Bricasti, McIntosh, Bryston, Auralic, PS Audio, Linn, and many others don’t care about great sound? They all support Roon and their users don’t seem to have any complaints. I understand early on there were questions about Roon not sounding as good as a native application with certain streamers but those have seemed to have died off.

Im not trying to argue Aurender’s point, but I don’t understand their explanation. Is this really a money issue from Aurender? Shouldn’t the user have the choice to use Conductor or Roon and decide for themselves? I have owned Lumin, PS Audio, Auralic, and other streamer/renderers and could tell no difference running Roon or another application with each device.

Any time you have a fast processor running sophisticated graphic intensive software or any function for that matter on the same network as your DAC, it creates noise. Moreover, Roon is optimized to run with a NAS. A noisy NAS. That too adds noise. That’s why Aurender created the ACS. Sound first. True two channel focus.

To answer your question, those other companies can LICENSE Roon and not have to build their own app (very expensive). It wasn’t long that everyone and their uncle was racing to make their own app for their particular device. Linn, Lumin, Bryston, NAIM, Sim, McIntosh and the list goes on and on. App development is very expensive. Roon offers a turnkey sexy solution. That being said, unless I’m mistaken, I’ve read Peter say he thinks the Lumin app sounds better.

Don’t get me wrong, I love Roon, but if we ONLY care about sound, Aurender’s points must be considered. Each individual will have to decide on their own.

What I see in the background is interesting. I think they got rid of their two channel guys at Roon (Steve, Bill, etc) to focus more on whole home/smart home integration. So will Roon one day control your lights and your thermostat? Maybe. Maybe not. Roon is now integrating with Control4 and Creston.

https://youtu.be/gTn0Cjo8kBk


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Thanks Mike. I’m sure my network is very noisy as I have a Synology NAS, Two Netgear Orbi routers, one SGC i5 Roon server, a couple of Sonos devices, three or four Amazon Alexa hubs, three Harmony Remote hubs, two smart home hubs (SmartThings, Wink), numerous Zwave devices, a dozen or so Zigbee light bulbs, a video camera monitoring Hub, etc. According to my WiFi sniffer application I have about 33 WiFi devices. Perhaps I should think about lining my audio room with lead!

Thanks as always for the great explanation.

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Originally Posted by Mike

From their perspective, Roon is noisy. All of the pretty hi res pics and graphics and horsepower required to run Roon creates noise. I’ve talked to Harry, Ari and the Aurender guys Ad nauseam about Roon and they are obsessed with SOUND FIRST. Roon is a sonic compromise in the opinions due to the noise it creates. From everything Aurender does, their focus is SOUND FIRST.

I run both Roon and Aurender W20SE/ACS10 at home. There is a clear sonic advantage to Aurender IMO. The Roon interface is gorgeous, no doubt, so I use Roon in my second system where it’s easy user interface works great for my wife and kids.


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Mike do you only play hard drive content stored in your Aurender hard drive or hard drive directly connected to it?
Or are you also accessing your NAS drive through it?

Originally Posted by Mike

From their perspective, Roon is noisy. All of the pretty hi res pics and graphics and horsepower required to run Roon creates noise. I’ve talked to Harry, Ari and the Aurender guys Ad nauseam about Roon and they are obsessed with SOUND FIRST. Roon is a sonic compromise in the opinions due to the noise it creates. From everything Aurender does, their focus is SOUND FIRST.

I run both Roon and Aurender W20SE/ACS10 at home. There is a clear sonic advantage to Aurender IMO. The Roon interface is gorgeous, no doubt, so I use Roon in my second system where it’s easy user interface works great for my wife and kids.


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Mike do you only play hard drive content stored in your Aurender hard drive or hard drive directly connected to it?
Or are you also accessing your NAS drive through it?

Originally Posted by Audio 1

Mike do you only play hard drive content stored in your Aurender hard drive or hard drive directly connected to it?
Or are you also accessing your NAS drive through it?

Great question. If digital listening, mostly CD since I really feel it sounds best, then only music on the ACS10 (the NAS is no longer connected) and then streaming. When I rip a CD on the ACS is comes DAMN close now. I use AES/EBU as Aurender and MBL feel it sounds best on their respective devices.

I’ve taken the EMM DV2 back to the store and I’m back to using:

https://www.stereophile.com/content/...-cd-player-dac


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CD also has been my "number one" sounding source for years, but after improving the power supplies for router, Ziggo (cable supplier) box and putting them on a separate power group, the addition of a Melco S100 switch, streaming quality (Qobuz) is now equal (or better) then playing a CD through my dCS Rossini player.

For streaming I use both the Rossini and an Aurender N10.