Thread: Chops' Current System Pics ....

Expanded on the system today...

Another five shelf Pangea rack
Technics SL-1700 MKII Turntable
Azden GX-50 Equalizer
Nakamichi DR-1 Cassette Deck
dbx 400x Active Program Route Selector
dbx 224x Noise Reduction

nice to see analog taking 'top billing' Charles !

Thanks, Dave.

Just got an Ortofon 2M Bronze mounted up and aligned on the Technics, and I have to say, the built-in phono stage in the Quad preamp sounds excellent.

Awesome Charles... looking good!

Thank you, Randy. It's sounding pretty darn good as well. The sound of pure analog coming through these Maggies is something else. Whether it be coming from vinyl or tape, there's just something about analog that just sounds "right". Yes, digital sounds better, but analog sounds more real. It's hard to explain, but I'm sure you probably know what I mean, being that you run dual turntables.

Hey Charles, most definitely do. I love my digital, but my vinyl just sounds really good, really inviting. The Rega with the MC cartridge is amazing for high end records, but for older, standard albums, or rock albums the Technics with the AT cartridge really sounds good. I love how the McIntosh has both MM and MC phono stages built in and that they sound very good to me!

Originally Posted by Randy Myers

I love how the McIntosh has both MM and MC phono stages built in and that they sound very good to me!

Likewise with my Quad preamp. If and when I decide to move to an MC cart again, I'm covered.

Purchased a somewhat mint JVC XL-V411 CD player. I say "somewhat" mint because once it arrived via FedEx, the display got knocked crooked, five plastic tabs got broken off, and the motorized volume was making noise, but not moving. I opened it up yesterday, disassembled more than half of it, and got everything straightened out (pun intended) and un-jammed the volume knob. Other than that, the unit is excellent, everything operates, it sounds amazingly good, has a coax output if I want to add a DAC at some point, the remote control looks almost new, and the manual is still sealed in its factory plastic sleeve from 1989.

I also swapped out the APC H15 power conditioner for the much older but totally mint Monster HTS 5000. Reason being that I think the APC might be on its way out. A couple of times in the past week or two, the system connected to it shuts down for a second then comes back on, yet the other half of the system at the front of the room is unaffected, nor is the computer (running Roon Core) and the modem remain on as well in the rear of the room.

Did a little upgrade tonight. Out with the Ortofon 2M Bronze, in with the...

So what are your impressions so far of the Sumiko vs the Ortofon ?

Originally Posted by Mikado463

So what are your impressions so far of the Sumiko vs the Ortofon ?

Thank you for the kind words, sir!

Only had time yesterday to mess around with Sumiko some. Currently fighting an uphill battle with some inner groove distortion. Roughly the last two tracks of every album, voices start taking on a fuzzy, static like quality… a.k.a. - IGD. I've encountered this before with other carts and tables, but was always able to eliminate it after a few more alignment tweaks. However, with this cart, I'm having a heck of a time with it.

Other than that, the Sumiko BP3 has a more rounded, fuller sound to it over the 2M Bronze. More bass grunt and speed, excellent midrange body, a silkier top end, and the uncanny ability to pull out finer details in the recordings.

Originally Posted by ACHiPo

I had a Blue Point Special on a Systemdek many years ago. I’m interested in your comparison as well. I’ve heard very good things about the Ortofon Bronze (and black, et al), but I’ve not heard one.

I already mentioned the sound differences in my last post above.


Good ole' Amazon delivery today... Hudson Hifi acrylic mat and gel stylus cleaner.

To my amazement, the acrylic mat is no joke. Bass and lower midrange has tightened up and become cleaner and more defined. Bass also seems to reach a little deeper. Everything else from what I can tell has remained the same with the exception of a bit more open sound stage. All in all, a nice simple upgrade for only 24 bucks, ordered last night and arrived about 2 hours ago.

Also, pretty sure I've pretty much eliminated that stinkin' IGD. Part of it was the cartridge alignment (resorted back to the Technics alignment tool that came with this TT back in '78), and the other part was from some of these old LPs. It's just the way some of them are, or how they've been played in years past with mis-aligned carts from the previous owners. My personal collection of LP's from my father, brothers and myself are all perfectly fine... IGD free.

Originally Posted by Bobvin

I’m diggin that Nak deck. Part of my first audiophile rig back in the late 70s was the esteemed Nakamichi 500, with an ARC pre and Son of Ampzilla power amp. Even then I was guilty of spending too much on my stereo. “The more things change…”

I much prefer my Nak 582. The only reason I'm not using it currently is because the thing is too darn big and doesn't fit in my rack. I don't know... Maybe I'll put it under the turntable. Or maybe I'll get one of those wall mount shelves for the TT and position it right above the rack with the 582 on the top shelf of the rack.

glad you got the cartridge sorted out. I assume it was a tweak to azimuth and anti-skate ?

As for the wall mounting of your TT, best advice yet when used in conjunction with traditional suspended floor joisting IMO.

Originally Posted by Mikado463

glad you got the cartridge sorted out. I assume it was a tweak to azimuth and anti-skate ?

As for the wall mounting of your TT, best advice yet when used in conjunction with traditional suspended floor joisting IMO.

It was mostly due to the overhang. Trying various alignment protractors, it was just pulling the cartridge further and further out. The Mofi Geo-Disc almost had the cart extended to max. In the end, going back to the Technics recommended 52mm overhang with the use of their provided overhang/alignment tool as well as lowering the VTA a touch, I would have to say that about 95% of the IGD is gone.

I'm not 100% sold on the TT wall mount as it would really only be for allowing me to reinsert the Nakamichi 582 into the system. Our house is built on a concrete slab, so floor isolation isn't an issue. Not to mention, the suspension system on this 45 year old Technics TT still works flawlessly. I can heavily tap anywhere on the rack AND on the plinth of the TT itself with zero "thump-thump" coming through the system at all. One of the many reasons I love this TT still.

Been doing a lot of experimenting lately which has gotten my vinyl system closer to where I want it. The past couple of weeks have included a new record clamp/weight, a new Nasotec swivel headshell, four different cartridges (more importantly the stylus type), and various alignments. The fifth cartridge is arriving tomorrow which will hopefully put an end to my experimenting and/or search as it is technically the best of both worlds (cartridge type and stylus type).

Naturally, the higher quality the stylus, the more detail and stereo separation there is, and with less surface noise and vanishing IGD. The Nasotec headshell cleans everything up that much more. A very clean and solidified sound overall, even more defined stereo separation, and bass that seems more effortless and open. Quite an interesting headshell that I'm glad I discovered.

Nagaoka M-110


Sumiko Blue Point No.3


Ortofon 2M Bronze


Ortofon 2M Black

a nice culmination of small steps is yielding you rewarding results, that's what it's all about !

Being a digital guy, I don't understand why people bother with analog at all. I'm yet to hear any recording on vinyl that excites me enough to take much notice. Although the new Grandioso T1 does excite me on pure eye candy value alone. And I do like the photographic images of the turntable hardware posted in this topic.

Originally Posted by brodricj

Being a digital guy, I don't understand why people bother with analog at all. I'm yet to hear any recording on vinyl that excites me enough to take much notice. Although the new Grandioso T1 does excite me on pure eye candy value alone. And I do like the photographic images of the turntable hardware posted in this topic.

Until you’ve truly heard an AAA pressing, it might not be clear. Take for example, the album Mike played for me on his new Kuzma Stabi R - Lee Morgan, Cornbread. This pressing was from the master tapes. It was beautifully pressed. A 1958 recording that sounded like Lee was right in the room.

I love my digital, don’t get me wrong, but when vinyl is done right, there is no going back.

Digital done right is like going to a really good, all-you-can-eat buffet. Analog done right is like going to a 3 star Michelin restaurant.

Even for the measurement crowd, the vinyl measures better in terms of DR.

Magic Vinyl vs Digital – What is the best edition of an album, vinyl, cassette, digital (CD, SACD, Streaming), in stereo, 5.1, Dolby Atmos or 360 RA? Who has never asked this question?


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Thank you, Dave. It's getting there quickly! Also forgot to add that I put in a couple of fresh drops of oil in the spindle bearing.

Mike, I couldn't have said it any better.

I want to start acquiring are some 1/2 speed mastered LPs as well as 45 rpm LPs. As it is, I prefer original pressings over new "remastered" releases. The new remastered LPs just don't sound as good as the originals that I've found.

The new cart came in and I have it up and running. I only have about 2 hours on it, but it already sounds better than all of the other carts combined. I hear the break-in period is around 50 hours, so it can only get better. Right now, it's fuller, more detailed, snappier, punchier, and just cleaner sounding with very little to no surface noise.

Wow!!!

It all looks good, bet it sounds even better.

In case you don't, I might suggest removing that dust cover whenever you are using the tt.

Originally Posted by Jim Smith

Wow!!!

It all looks good, bet it sounds even better.

In case you don't, I might suggest removing that dust cover whenever you are using the tt.

Thank you, Jim.

Funny you should say that, because I did just that today, removed the cover. And for the first time with any of the systems I've had over the years, with this system, I actually heard a noticeable difference.

Well, curiosity got the best of me, and I decided to do another experiment. I played the "A" side of each album listed below. These are very familiar albums to me, and I have already played them all at least twice this past week alone, not including today. These were played with the AT-OC9XSL and Nasotec headshell. After I played these four albums (A-side only) back to back, I went to work on swapping the AT cart over to the stock Technics headshell and making the alignment with the stock Technics overhang tool.

Swing Out Sister - It's Better To Travel
Eurythmics - Savage
U2 - Joshua Tree
Eastern Airlines - Images In Flight (mono)

Playing these four albums again now with the AT cart mounted on the Technics headshell revealed a few things. Bass has considerably more definition, detail and impact. Midrange and vocals are more precise and spacious. The treble is very clean and polished. Stage depth has increased with a natural amount of space around instruments and singers. And to top it all off, there's still zero IGD anywhere on any of the albums.

Tonality-wise, everything holds true for the mono Eastern Airlines album. The center image is spot on with even a sense of depth within the recording.

In short, even though the Nasotec swivel headshell showed great improvements with the Ortofon and Sumiko carts over the stock Technics headshell, the exact opposite is true when it comes to the AT cart. This cart is a much better match to the Technics cart. With the AT-OC9XSL / Nasotec headshell combo, I always got a slight low rumble during very quiet passages and in between tracks. And in direct comparison to the Technics headshell, the treble took on an almost grainy texture with the Nasotec headshell.

Apparently, some carts such as the Ortofon 2M series greatly benefit from the Nasotec swivel headshell, and other carts such as the AT-OC9XSL do not. So with that being said, the Nasotec will be getting packed back up and shipped back.

A few new pics of the system at a totally different angle. The 32" monitor on the back wall is connected to the tiny PC running Roon Core. Everything is hidden in that buffet table, and that huge monitor needs to go and a small monitor put inside the table as well. That wall is prime real estate for some acoustic panels!

Also, those LPs on the wall are damaged and are on pre-existing nails in the wall. Though I do want to do some kind of "wall art" with old non-playable LPs eventually.

Originally Posted by Mike

Until you’ve truly heard an AAA pressing, it might not be clear. Take for example, the album Mike played for me on his new Kuzma Stabi R - Lee Morgan, Cornbread. This pressing was from the master tapes. It was beautifully pressed. A 1958 recording that sounded like Lee was right in the room.

I love my digital, don’t get me wrong, but when vinyl is done right, there is no going back.

Digital done right is like going to a really good, all-you-can-eat buffet. Analog done right is like going to a 3 star Michelin restaurant.

Even for the measurement crowd, the vinyl measures better in terms of DR.

Magic Vinyl vs Digital – What is the best edition of an album, vinyl, cassette, digital (CD, SACD, Streaming), in stereo, 5.1, Dolby Atmos or 360 RA? Who has never asked this question?


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Analog can sound incredible, agreed but the problem commonly omitted is - how many people have the $$$ for such an ultra - analog setup to hear the best from it? At more reasonable $ digital holds up incredibly well versus a TT and I'd argue tops it until you get to high $$ comparisons. That, plus the convenience of streaming is why I've continually turned away from analog, too much $$, too much work.

Originally Posted by sb6

Analog can sound incredible, agreed but the problem commonly omitted is - how many people have the $$$ for such an ultra - analog setup to hear the best from it? At more reasonable $ digital holds up incredibly well versus a TT and I'd argue tops it until you get to high $$ comparisons. That, plus the convenience of streaming is why I've continually turned away from analog, too much $$, too much work.

while I won't argue your point and not to try to turn Charles 'system thread' into a digital vs analog debate I think one of the things he's showing us here is that modest amounts of $$ spent wisely can in fact produce solid sonic results.

Also keep in mind some of us have sizeable LP collections to begin with

Originally Posted by Mikado463

while I won't argue your point and not to try to turn Charles 'system thread' into a digital vs analog debate I think one of the things he's showing us here is that modest amounts of $$ spent wisely can in fact produce solid sonic results.

Also keep in mind some of us have sizeable LP collections to begin with

And solid sonic results they are!

Also yes, a decent sized and constantly growing LP collection, as well as a healthy collection of mint quality recorded cassettes and CDs. Not much in the way of open reel tape yet though. Most are at ridiculous prices that I refuse to pay.

Made a couple of changes to the system recently. First was getting rid of that giant 32" monitor on the back wall behind my listening seat for my Roon Core PC. It has been replaced with a little 8" monitor that is now hidden in the cabinet along with the rest of the gear. Not that it matters in this particular situation, but this little monitor has excellent picture and color quality. All of only $82 shipped! It's perfect for just running Roon on.




The second change was swapping out the AudioQuest CV-8 (72 volt DBS system) speaker cables with the Tara Labs The One CX cables. These Maggie 1.7i's take extremely well to cable changes because holy cow, what an improvement! A wider sound stage with greater space and air within the stage, more grunt and energy in the bass and a more natural, realistic body in the midrange. Treble also benefits some with a bit more snap and refinement.

The 2" Impression panels came in Friday, the 4" Alpha panels showed up first thing yesterday morning around 9am! That alone was shocking! They were supposed to ship out on the 24th and arrive by the 29th! Good on GIK Acoustics for that. As for fit and finish, I've read that a lot of these panels arrive looking like they were rushed, bad corners, wrinkled cloth, etc, etc. I have none of that with these panels. They look great front to back, top to bottom.

All day yesterday, and I do mean all day, I played around with location. I tried the Alpha and Impressions panels everywhere in the room, swapped one out for the other in each location, tried all combinations, tried all types of locations, and the simplest actually ended up providing the best results.

Music was from Phil Collins, Norah Jones, James Taylor, Depeche Mode, Neil Young, Diana Krall, The Cure, Peter Murphy, Gregory Porter, Holly Cole, Fleetwood Mack, Pink Floyd... Basically, artists and music I know extremely well and a lot that I have been listening to recently with the current system.

I first tried the Alpha panels in the 1st reflection points on the side walls. They gave me a solid center image, but they killed the width of the sound stage. Any stage width I got it was restricted to only between the inner edges of the speakers. Even the ambient width in the recording was sucked out almost completely. While keeping the Alphas there, I tried putting the four Impressions in various locations to see if they would resolve these new issues, but they didn't. Even completely out of the room, these new issues stayed.

So I swapped out the Alphas for the two Impressions you currently see in those 1st reflection locations. With no other panels in the room, these "removed" the walls, widened the sound stage considerably beyond the walls, and still give me that solid center image. This is something these speakers and room needed, and the Impressions in these locations deliver.

I then tried the Alphas on the back wall and the other two Impressions on the front wall. They seemed to work really well, but something was off. After more listening of various tracks, I realized that stage depth had flattened and vocal height had dropped to about just below center of the TV screen. Also, some of that ambience in the recordings had gone away again, though not as bad as before, but it was noticeable. Lastly, imaging focus had become a little bit fuzzy. Again, just because I could, I removed the Impressions on the sidewalls while keeping the other panels in place and that just made things worse, so those Impressions went back to the sidewalls.

The Alphas then got moved up front. What the Alphas did on the front wall is what the room/system needed. They opened up that front wall giving more space, air and much needed stage depth to the sound, as well as lifting the vocal/instrument height to realistic heights as if those vocals/instruments were in front of me. The ambience of the venues in the "live' recordings are back in strides and very clearly apparent, giving even more space and air within the room. The second pair of Impressions are on the back wall where they help reinforce what the Alphas are doing up front as well as the fact that there's zero slap echo in this room now.

As an added bonus to these panels, and something I wasn't expecting them to do much of if any, is that they have in fact improved the bass in this room. I don't know if they helped clean up some of the upper bass or bass harmonics or what, but the overall sound of the bass is just a bit more clean, solid and planted. Almost to the same effect as putting the subs up on those IsoAcoustics sub stands I have them on. Definition and sharpness of attack just seem to be better. And no, the Maggies, the subs or the sub settings were never touched through any of this.

Lastly, in order the mount one of the panels in front of the window, I mounted a couple of "legs" to the side of the panel, put a couple of eyehooks on the back of them, and a couple of L hooks in the wall, so installation and removal is simple and literally only takes seconds to do. Also, instead of using the sawtooth hangers that GIK provided with the panels, I decided to use heavy duty D-ring picture hangers for the wall mounted panels.

All in all, I am extremely happy with the results and am quite amazed at how much was achieved with only six panels. They far exceeded my expectations. This doesn't mean I'm done however. I still want to get some diffusors for behind/above the TV, and maybe a few other things here and there after some more research and advise seeking.

This is something I should have done long ago, which is what most people say who finally go this route. Amazing results with just a few panels, and the best this room/system has ever sounded.

Anyway, here's some pics...

A little update...

Turns out those Tara Labs The One CX speaker cables as well as that big The One AC power cable are fakes. Yup, I got cheap Chinese knock-offs. It's not a fault of mine or my dealer friend as he got suckered getting them as a trade-in, though he should have checked into them with Tera Labs and the S/N on the cables. Oh well, at least I didn't pay much for them. A year later he still refunded me the money and I get to keep these cables. Maybe I'll use them in my girlfriend's bedroom system. LOL I mean, they're not horrible. They're at least still better than cheap stock cables and zip cord.

So I swapped my old AudioQuest CV-8 cables back into the system because they are longer, more manageable, which in turn allows for more flexibility in speaker placement tweaks, and they are the REAL DEAL. I also swapped in one of my old Wireworld Aurora 6 power cables.

This all started because I decided to replace the stock Maggie steel jumpers on the tweeters for a pair of WBC (Worlds Best Cables) Canare jumpers that I purchased back when I had those Klipsch Heresy III's.

I have to say, with the Wireworld power cable installed, bass punch and attack seem to be sharper now through the Maggies. I'm sure some of that has to do with the AudioQuest cables as well. Possibly a little deeper/wider sound stage too. The jumpers cleaned up just a touch of "grit" that I kept hearing in certain recordings when played at higher than average volume levels.

All in all, a good tweak in the right direction!


Also... I've been talking to a recently retired certified electrician friend of mine (35+ years in the business) that I work with, and in the somewhat near future we plan on running at least one 20 amp dedicated line to the front of the room and a dedicated 15 amp line to the side of the room where most of the system resides. All I have to do is pay for the materials and he's agreed to do the work in exchange for a nice little cook-out afterwords. Can't go wrong there!

We also plan on doing overhead (recessed) lighting as well with zones. Same agreement as above!


Anywho, some pics for fun...

In the 10/29 photos are those PolyCrystal cable elevators?

Originally Posted by Dizzie

In the 10/29 photos are those PolyCrystal cable elevators?

Nope. Those are 80 to 100 year old telegraph pole insulators from along old railroad tracks up in WA. 60 bucks shipped for a dozen of them several years back.

They sure look a lot alike. I have a dozen.

PolyCrystal (long out of business)

PolyCrystal.jpg

Originally Posted by chops

A little update...

Turns out those Tara Labs The One CX speaker cables as well as that big The One AC power cable are fakes. Yup, I got cheap Chinese knock-offs. It's not a fault of mine or my dealer friend as he got suckered getting them as a trade-in, though he should have checked into them with Tera Labs and the S/N on the cables. Oh well, at least I didn't pay much for them. A year later he still refunded me the money and I get to keep these cables. Maybe I'll use them in my girlfriend's bedroom system. LOL I mean, they're not horrible. They're at least still better than cheap stock cables and zip cord.

So I swapped my old AudioQuest CV-8 cables back into the system because they are longer, more manageable, which in turn allows for more flexibility in speaker placement tweaks, and they are the REAL DEAL. I also swapped in one of my old Wireworld Aurora 6 power cables.

This all started because I decided to replace the stock Maggie steel jumpers on the tweeters for a pair of WBC (Worlds Best Cables) Canare jumpers that I purchased back when I had those Klipsch Heresy III's.

I have to say, with the Wireworld power cable installed, bass punch and attack seem to be sharper now through the Maggies. I'm sure some of that has to do with the AudioQuest cables as well. Possibly a little deeper/wider sound stage too. The jumpers cleaned up just a touch of "grit" that I kept hearing in certain recordings when played at higher than average volume levels.

All in all, a good tweak in the right direction!


Also... I've been talking to a recently retired certified electrician friend of mine (35+ years in the business) that I work with, and in the somewhat near future we plan on running at least one 20 amp dedicated line to the front of the room and a dedicated 15 amp line to the side of the room where most of the system resides.

Charles FWIW and IMO if you're running two new dedicated lines make them both 20 amp. That's what I did, one for the Amps and the other for the other 'gear'

Originally Posted by Mikado463

Charles FWIW and IMO if you're running two new dedicated lines make them both 20 amp. That's what I did, one for the Amps and the other for the other 'gear'

I was actually thinking that honestly. I'd split the run in the front of the room to have a single gang outlet on either side of the window like what's there now, then a dual gang outlet behind the racks.

And around the same time, I want to install some overhead lighting around the room as well with separate zones, and dimmer switches that can also be controlled via wifi.

Just swapped out my beloved Schiit Bifrost 2 Multibit, Raspberry Pi4 and Roon for a brand new Cambridge Audio CXN V2 streamer/DAC.

Just for the heck of it, I decided to connect a CAT6 up to the CXN V2 a few minutes ago. I have to admit, this is the first time ever that I have heard an immediate sonic improvement switching over from WiFi to cable.

A bit more solid, a bit more defined, a bit better layering. It even seems to be blacker in quiet passages and between tracks.

Color me impressed!

Originally Posted by chops

Thank you, Randy. It's sounding pretty darn good as well. The sound of pure analog coming through these Maggies is something else. Whether it be coming from vinyl or tape, there's just something about analog that just sounds "right". Yes, digital sounds better, but analog sounds more real. It's hard to explain, but I'm sure you probably know what I mean, being that you run dual turntables.

These two statements are in conflict. If analog sounds "more real" than digital, then you can't say "digital sounds better."

Originally Posted by mep

These two statements are in conflict. If analog sounds "more real" than digital, then you can't say "digital sounds better."

Once yet again, you're wrong. No, they are not in conflict with each other.

Analog (to me in my system) sounds more real because of the way it presents itself, being a bit more rounded and soulful and hate to say it, more organic.

Digital (again, to me in my system) sounds better because by nature, it is cleaner, blacker and more dynamic.

In no way do either of those statements conflict with each other. So stop trying to stir up trouble and get an argument going. I'm not in the mood.



On top of that, I do NOT want useless nonsense breaking out in MY system thread. If you want to debate that sort of subject, then start a thread of your own somewhere else. Keep it out of MY thread.

Change your name to Mr. Sensitive. You make ridiculous statements and no one is allowed to voice an opinion in your safe room thread?

Are you done, Mr. Child? Wow. Grow up.

Ridiculous statements? You take everything I say out of context to suite your useless attempts at arguments.

And now you're on the Ignore List. Enjoy!

Just upgraded my Cambridge Audio CXN V2 to an Auralic Altair G1.

Sitting here listening to The Beatles -Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band via Qobuz through the Auralic Altair G1, controlled with the Lightning DS app.

Just as a reference, I have listened to this exact album through the Raspberry Pi4/Schiit Bifrost 2 Multibit/Roon, then through the Cambridge Audio CXN V2 with the StreamMagic app, and now with the Altair G1/LDS app. Nothing else in the system changed.

Listening to "She's Leaving Home"... Multiple times I might add!

1) Pi4/Bifrost/Roon - I recall this track sounding a bit flat between the speakers and Paul's singing being a bit recessed behind the TV, but just as a voice.

2) CXN/SM app - Wider and deeper soundstage with Paul still behind the TV, but just as a voice.

3) Altair G1/LDS app - Even wider and deeper soundstage, cleaner, smoother, more natural sound, and Paul LITERALLY SOUNDS like he's sitting on the coffee table IN the room in front of the TV! I mean LITERALLY in the room!

I'm pretty sure I just had a surreal experience. Damn, I'm gonna listen to it a few more times when the album is over!

Picked up a new (to me) piece of kit this morning!... Pass Labs XP-20 with upgraded Revelation Audio Labs 'Passage' CryoSilver Dual Conduit Reference umbilical cord.