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    Re: The good news is.....and the bad news is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Oh for sure. And there’s a reason why Hurricane is the sweet spot. But only listen to Dragon if you can afford it because there’s no going back.
    What is the MSRP? And do these replace the Wild Blue Yonder or WEL Signature?

    If so, I guess the companion interconnects are coming eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdp632 View Post
    What is the MSRP? And do these replace the Wild Blue Yonder or WEL Signature?

    If so, I guess the companion interconnects are coming eventually.
    Yes they do.

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    Dragon is $27,100 for 8 foot pair
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    Wow.

    I guess its all comes down to system synergy and subjective taste with cables.

    But, I'd be curious to see how they compare to the Shunyata Sigma and MIT 2C3D Level 1.

    Audioquest uses silver to increase the resolution but, at the expense of cost. Thus, that high price.

    Whereas, others (Shunyta, Kubala-Sosna) for example use copper but, have different technologies to obtain that clarity and resolution.

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    Re: The good news is.....and the bad news is.....

    I would also be very interested to know what the comparable MIT cables are.
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    Re: The good news is.....and the bad news is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by mdp632 View Post
    Wow.

    I guess its all comes down to system synergy and subjective taste with cables.

    But, I'd be curious to see how they compare to the Shunyata Sigma and MIT 2C3D Level 1.

    Audioquest uses silver to increase the resolution but, at the expense of cost. Thus, that high price.

    Whereas, others (Shunyta, Kubala-Sosna) for example use copper but, have different technologies to obtain that clarity and resolution.

    So with silver prices around $15 per oz these cables must weigh over 100 lbs to be worth that much. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by jadedavid View Post
    So with silver prices around $15 per oz these cables must weigh over 100 lbs to be worth that much. LOL
    There’s a lot more that goes into making a great speaker cable than just the material. And there are also different grades of silver.
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    On one hand, I would like to hear a $27K speaker wire, but I seriously doubt they are over three times better than the TOL Shunyata speaker cables. Then again, maybe they are.
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    Anyone looking for new cables, take a listen to the new audience frontRow cables, all I can say is WOW!

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    Re: The good news is.....and the bad news is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueFox View Post
    On one hand, I would like to hear a $27K speaker wire, but I seriously doubt they are over three times better than the TOL Shunyata speaker cables. Then again, maybe they are.
    Bud, they are truly amazing cables. I completely get the high price. But are they as much of an improvement as a new $27,000 preamp? I would say yes.

    In this case, ignorance is bliss! I can just say for those who have compared the Tornado/Hurricane to the Dragon power cables, the speaker cable jump is just as pronounced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AJR View Post
    I would also be very interested to know what the comparable MIT cables are.
    Anyone who wants to come to the store and compare, I would be happy to coordinate. But for obvious reasons, I will refrain from any comparison myself. I know the MIT cables were a huge step up over everything I tried ON THE MAGICO’s. As for a comparison with AQ Dragon vs MIT, I have never tried and publicly probably never will. . Once again, ignorance is bliss!
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