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April 5, 2013, 03:27 PM #1Audioshark
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My new ARC REF 250's
Arrive Monday!
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April 5, 2013, 03:59 PM #2Senior Member
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Mike... Congratulations!!! It's gonna seem like a long weekend.
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April 5, 2013, 04:01 PM #3Senior Member
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Looking forward to your thoughts Mike...pretty sure they'll be mostly positive
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Beautiful, what speakers will they be driving?
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Wow!! Looks like it arrived a little early Mike..
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Mike....Cooooooooooooooooooooool. Yeah....what speakers now ????
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April 5, 2013, 10:29 PM #7Audioshark
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Still looking...
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April 5, 2013, 11:22 PM #8Junior Member
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Vandy 7's! Made for the AR gear.
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April 5, 2013, 11:29 PM #9Audioshark
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I know! I must hear them. Someone else I know just bought a pair of those.
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April 6, 2013, 12:03 AM #10Senior Member
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The 7s and the Ref 250s sounded mighty sweet at THE Show last year...plus Richard is still pretty involved with every set of 7s they churn out. Only thing is the longer lead times.
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April 6, 2013, 09:13 AM #11Junior Member
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Rumor has it he is working on 9's but that might be years. He personally told me if you are willing to deal with tubes the AR ref are tops with the 5a's and 7's. he likes the mxr's for ss.
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April 6, 2013, 01:23 PM #12Senior Member
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Mike
Congratulations on the Ref 250's You're gonna love them, especially with the Ref 10. Now all you need is some really fantastic speakers.Bob
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April 7, 2013, 01:38 PM #13Senior Member
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Mike....Can't wait to hear what you think. Only have about 40 hours on the REF 150. What a special piece, along with the REF 5SE. Beyond my wildest dreams.
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I love Vandersteens. I owned a pair of Quatros when they first came out and am very familiar with the 5As and 5A Carbons. That is a speaker I could hold onto for a long time. Someday.
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April 8, 2013, 08:57 AM #15Senior Member
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So today's the day?!!!
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April 8, 2013, 09:09 AM #16Audioshark
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TODAY is the day Doug!
I'm not leaving the house for anything! I'll be carrying my old amp (Classe CA-2300) back downstairs to the family room system to make room for my two new babies.
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April 8, 2013, 09:26 AM #17Super Moderator
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OMG! Originally Posted by Mike
TODAY is the day Doug! I'm not leaving the house for anything! I'll be carrying my old amp (Classe CA-2300) back downstairs to the family room system to make room for my two new babies.
I totally forgot. They will be awesome I am sure.Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
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April 8, 2013, 09:32 AM #18Audioshark
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argh...just got a call from the shipper. Its delayed until tomorrow.
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I can't imagine how good that system will sound! Now about those speakers... Originally Posted by joeinid
Which reminds me of the first time I heard the REF250's. The dealer had just gotten them in. They were paired with a REF5 and some Wilson Maxx 2's. The volume was very low, maybe 40-50 db range since they were being broken in, and the sound was amazing. The detail at such a low volume was really something. Have you considered Wilson's Mike?Doug
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April 8, 2013, 09:43 AM #20Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Mike
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All is not lost, he called back and said, "I rearranged things and the guy will be there between 2 and 4pm today". Originally Posted by mdkim
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Yes, the new Alexia's. I called my local dealer and he has no plans to bring in anything above the Sasha's. Crazy! Originally Posted by dlb2
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Oh God, Mike , I forgot today is the day !!!!!!!!! Woo Hoo !!!!! congrats !!
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It's madness how quickly we'll drop/rearrange our schedules (business & personal) just to accommodate getting gear on time or early :confused: Originally Posted by Mike
All is not lost, he called back and said, "I rearranged things and the guy will be there between 2 and 4pm today".
Sadly...no cure exists.Michael
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Don't forget the sleepless night knowing its coming :o Originally Posted by mdkim
Dewey,
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Oh yes. And, staring blankly at your rack imagining where the new stuff will go and how it will affect the rest of your stuff. Originally Posted by Dewster
Snap some pics when they arrive Mike!Michael
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Oh, don't worry! I will. Originally Posted by mdkim
I am dreading putting in the 9,875 tubes though! With as many tubes as the REF 250's have, you might actually be able to watch the temperature of the State of Florida rise - minute by minute.
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April 8, 2013, 11:16 AM #28tonepubGuest
They don't throw off as much heat as your Pass amps did....
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That's good to know. Thanks Jeff. Originally Posted by tonepub
They don't throw off as much heat as your Pass amps did....
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Congrats on the new amps Mike, nothing like the smell of new gear in the morning.How do they sound in 4 weeks from now
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The XA160.5s don't run that hot. Originally Posted by tonepub
They don't throw off as much heat as your Pass amps did....
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Same thing happened to me waiting for my REF 150.
Originally Posted by Mike
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They arrived a little over 5 hours ago. They are much larger than I had expected and really, quite gorgeous. I put them on and instantly knew these were very special amps. The mid range and highs are incredibly sweet. They are very musical. That's the first thing that came to my mind. How real and musical they sound. The bass is a tad less pronounced than the Classe, but I think that will improve as the remaining 595 hours of break in take hold.
Here's a couple of pics:
photo 1-5.jpgphoto 2-5.jpgphoto 3-4.jpgMy Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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Congratulations Mike!
ARC gear looks so classy.Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
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True! They seem about the same as the 2301's I had. In FL we have our AC on all the time anyway! Originally Posted by The Sandman
The XA160.5s don't run that hot.
MikeMy Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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Thanks Joe. These amps are woefully woefully woefully underrated. I'm getting 103db at 1 meter with 2.5 watts. That's madness. Originally Posted by joeinid
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Just remember, Originally Posted by Mike
"It's astounding
Time is fleeting
Madness takes its toll
But listen closely"Last edited by joeinid; April 8, 2013 at 08:49 PM.
Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated. Luxman L-595aSE
NAD C 658 streamer.
First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
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Wow!!!!
How do they sound compared to the 2301's?Dewey,
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Mike... They look great. Enjoy!!!
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Going from memory is tough, but I would say they have a perfect midrange and highs. The bass is fast, but not as pronounced as I would like (I think that will improve with break in). Even as I've been listening now for several hours, it has improved. Don't get me wrong, these are amazing amps. They sound like a great mixture of solid state (speed) and tube (midrange warmth and sweet sweet highs). Originally Posted by Dewster
As to your question: my first thought was, these are the amps Kevin (bzr) should audition.
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Thanks Jeff. Originally Posted by jwhite613
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/stirring the pot Originally Posted by Mike
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Lookin' good. They are monsters for sure Mike. 600 hours! I'm glad I buy my gear used! Are they going with KT120's with the REF250's?
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Indeed. Monster tubes in monster amps. I just can't believe their power reserves. Originally Posted by dlb2
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Glad they're meeting your expectations so far Mike! The break-in should improve bass and you always have different cables should you not be 100% satisfied. Wow, I'd love to hear them paired with your Ref 10...it must be amazing
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You're right Mike. I'm also using the stock PC's until I decide what to buy. Thinking Shunyata Cobra's.
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Mike...I love to see your AIDA I think we've been wait too long.... Originally Posted by Mike
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Don't go anything under Ananconda, trust me, I've heard them. Originally Posted by Mike
I've also heard the ref 5se & the ref150, with 20.7's & the DeVore Orangutans, they were really good, about as good as it could be considering, almost as good as what I have........ stay tuned.
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OK...I will get a price. Originally Posted by bzr
Don't go anything under Ananconda, trust me, I've heard them.
I've also heard the ref 5se & the ref150, with 20.7's & the DeVore Orangutans, they were really good, about as good as it could be considering, almost as good as what I have........ stay tuned.
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Congrats Mike!
I'd suggest anaconda CX PCs if you can find them. Excellent performance and substantially cheaper than current Ztron Anacondas.
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You should ask your dealer to bring the CH stuff he wants to sell you for home audition in your system. IMO there is no way to tell what will sound better in your system.
MSB Reference vs CH C1.2