Where To Place Pass Labs Amp?

**Jack in Wilmington** · November 21, 2013, 10:02 AM

479.JPGHi Guys, I'll be receiving my new Pass Labs Amp the X150.5 soon and I was sort of concerned about my rack shelves. I have the Sanus NF-206C rack with the glass shelves. They say they are rated for 50 lbs. and the amp weighs 62 lbs.. I thought about locating it on the bottom shelf and relocating my Panamax power conditioner to the shelf above. I don't really have any other place to put it, or am I just worrying about nothing.

**Shadowfax** · November 21, 2013, 10:09 AM

Jack, If the bottom shelf breaks, replace it with wood. It may be a conservative rating, does the bottom have more support than the middle ones?

**Mike** · November 21, 2013, 10:28 AM

I think the bottom shelf would be best.

**joeinid** · November 21, 2013, 11:12 AM

I vote the bottom shelf if possible. Heaviest piece on the bottom.

**Mike** · November 21, 2013, 11:31 AM

Actually, come to think of it, the best place to place your new Pass Labs amp is my house!

**Jack in Wilmington** · November 21, 2013, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by Shadowfax

Jack, If the bottom shelf breaks, replace it with wood. It may be a conservative rating, does the bottom have more support than the middle ones?

If you see the three black circles at the bottom of the rack, they actually are the ends of three metal rods that extend from the front to the back to give the whole unit strength. The bottom glass shelf doesn't touch those three rods. The glass up top that holds the turntable is thicker, but who wants their amp on the top shelf. Plus I'd probably bust a nut lifting it up there. Like Mike and Joe said, the bottom shelf looks like the best place.

**Jack in Wilmington** · November 21, 2013, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Mike

Actually, come to think of it, the best place to place your new Pass Labs amp is my house!

I thought about that Mike, but I'd have to pay for overweight luggage.

**Mike** · November 21, 2013, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by Jack in Wilmington

I thought about that Mike, but I'd have to pay for overweight luggage.

I'll cover that. No problem. I will send you weekly updates on how great it sounds.

**Jack in Wilmington** · November 21, 2013, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by Mike

I'll cover that. No problem. I will send you weekly updates on how great it sounds.

Maybe we can get Pass Labs to rename it the "Snowbird"

**Penthouse-D** · November 22, 2013, 09:25 AM

Enjoy and good luck with your Pass Labs amp. You'll love it. The resident experts are correct. Bottom shelf only..

**BlueFox** · November 22, 2013, 01:24 PM

I have two X600.5 amps on the bottom shelf (4" solid maple), with a combined weight of 300 pounds. The biggest problem is heat. There is an 8" clearance to the next shelf, and the temperature on the next shelf gets to 81 degrees. I am going to rearrange gear, and move the next shelf up another 4".

I was was going to get a single wide rack for the other gear, and put the amps on platforms on either side of the rack, with nothing above the amps. However, I realized that was a disaster waiting to happen, since it would be easy for someone to spill liquid onto an amp. So scratch that idea.

**Jack in Wilmington** · November 22, 2013, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by BlueFox

I have two X600.5 amps on the bottom shelf (4" solid maple), with a combined weight of 300 pounds. The biggest problem is heat. There is an 8" clearance to the next shelf, and the temperature on the next shelf gets to 81 degrees. I am going to rearrange gear, and move the next shelf up another 4".

I was was going to get a single wide rack for the other gear, and put the amps on platforms on either side of the rack, with nothing above the amps. However, I realized that was a disaster waiting to happen, since it would be easy for someone to spill liquid onto an amp. So scratch that idea.

I looked at a rack with a 4" bottom shelf Bud and that might be the way to go. I've seen many amps on floor stands at shows, but they're probably not worried about spills. I think you're smart if that's a concern.

**Design Audio Video** · November 22, 2013, 06:11 PM

I have two Accuphase Class A amps on single amp stands and they never have been much more that warm to the touch. I took my Quadraspire amp stands that they set on, they are slotted for air flow, and added columns and a shelf on top for my power supplies. The amps are open all the way around but on top there is only 3" of space between the top of the amp and the next slotted shelf . This made the amps so hot you could barely touch them . I had to go back to the single amp stand with nothing on top. My point is heat is required for your amps to operate properly but if they are getting too hot then you could be shortening the life of your very expensive amps.

**MDP** · November 22, 2013, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by baskinshaw

I have two Accuphase Class A amps on single amp stands and they never have been much more that warm to the touch. I took my Quadraspire amp stands that they set on, they are slotted for air flow, and added columns and a shelf on top for my power supplies. The amps are open all the way around but on top there is only 3" of space between the top of the amp and the next slotted shelf . This made the amps so hot you could barely touch them . I had to go back to the single amp stand with nothing on top. My point is heat is required for your amps to operate properly but if they are getting too hot then you could be shortening the life of your very expensive amps.

+1

**Shadowfax** · November 25, 2013, 10:50 AM

Jack,

I will be driving thru Wilmington about 5am on Sunday morning on my way to Hilton Head.

I think if you place it by the front door, that would be the best spot.

Can't wait to hear how it is driving those Danes.

**Jack in Wilmington** · November 25, 2013, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by Shadowfax

Jack,

I will be driving thru Wilmington about 5am on Sunday morning on my way to Hilton Head.

I think if you place it by the front door, that would be the best spot.

Can't wait to hear how it is driving those Danes.

If it's not there, knock and I can at least refill your coffee. Every time I hear a big truck go down the street, I get excited. I'm already warming the wife up with talk of a preamp. I was explaining that the amp is the muscle and the preamp is the brains. She wanted to know why I didn't get the brains first. I explained it to her and she understood. This is good, especially that she asked about it.

**joeinid** · November 25, 2013, 12:00 PM

Smart move! I'm glad she's taking an interest.

Originally Posted by Jack in Wilmington

If it's not there, knock and I can at least refill your coffee. Every time I hear a big truck go down the street, I get excited. I'm already warming the wife up with talk of a preamp. I was explaining that the amp is the muscle and the preamp is the brains. She wanted to know why I didn't get the brains first. I explained it to her and she understood. This is good, especially that she asked about it.

**Jack in Wilmington** · November 25, 2013, 02:19 PM

Just got done bringing it into my audio room with my hand truck. I'll let it sit and warm up for a bit before I unbox it. First thing to check is to see if my spades fit the binding posts.

**Shadowfax** · November 25, 2013, 02:48 PM

Whoo Hoo

Congrats again Jack!

**Jack in Wilmington** · November 25, 2013, 06:18 PM

Well it's hooked up and no problems. I swapped out the MIT bananas at the amp end of my speaker wires and screwed on the supplied spades. I couldn't use my Voodoo power cable as there isn't enough space between the back of the chassis and the rear support of my rack. Played a couple of songs just to make sure it didn't sound terrible, and it sounded good and I know it will get better as it breaks in. I was told to leave it on overnight and just let it burn-in. Amazing is the fact that the front face plate just fit in between the front left and right support posts. There might be 1/32" to spare.New pass 010.JPG New pass 013.JPG

**Mikado463** · November 25, 2013, 06:47 PM

hey Jack, how about on an amp stand between your two speakers……on the floor with plenty of room to 'breath' !

**Jack in Wilmington** · November 25, 2013, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by Mikado463

hey Jack, how about on an amp stand between your two speakers……on the floor with plenty of room to 'breath' !

It's pretty tight there Dave. I'll try and give you a panoramic view.

**Mikado463** · November 25, 2013, 08:50 PM

Congrats Jack on the 'new arrival', it looks like a snug fit, you must have had to muscle it in there !

**Paul** · November 25, 2013, 08:56 PM

Congrats ! I'm glad everything worked out nicely.

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**Jack in Wilmington** · November 25, 2013, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by Jack in Wilmington

It's pretty tight there Dave. I'll try and give you a panoramic view.

Here's a better view. It's speakers surrounding my HT gear and the subwoofer thrown in to the mix.042.JPG

**Mikado463** · November 25, 2013, 09:47 PM

understood Jack …………..

**FRO** · December 11, 2013, 04:50 PM

I have my Pass Labs XA160.5 mono amps on Billy Baggs PRO amp stands - great product!

**MDP** · December 11, 2013, 05:57 PM

Welcome FRO !!

**FRO** · December 11, 2013, 06:29 PM

Thanks!
Nice Forum!!

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