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Sean
February 23, 2018, 12:10 PM
Anybody else excited for the season to start up?

With teams unveiling their new liveries, I am getting amp'd up for races. But man, are those halos ugly.

Sean
February 23, 2018, 02:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph0TJaNFGGU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph0TJaNFGGU

Digging the Red Bull look.

Kingsrule
February 25, 2018, 12:13 PM
U bet I'm excited!

I'm thinking 2018 will be an up & down toss between Ferrari, Mercedes and the Bulls with a few others on the podium along the way....

Love the McLaren livery.......

Sean
February 25, 2018, 04:35 PM
I like the 2018 McLaren lovey quite a bit more than last years, too. I wonder if it will get filled with a few more sponsor badges along the way.

Iím hoping the big three are all close this year. Would make for a more fun season, thatís for sure.


U bet I'm excited!

I'm thinking 2018 will be an up & down toss between Ferrari, Mercedes and the Bulls with a few others on the podium along the way....

Love the McLaren livery.......




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Sean
February 25, 2018, 04:36 PM
I am curious how viewership will be with ESPN/ABC having all the broadcasts this year.


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a.wayne
February 25, 2018, 04:41 PM
I am curious how viewership will be with ESPN/ABC having all the broadcasts this year.


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I guess bad for me as i dont have ESPN and ABC traditionally only does Monaco and USGP ...

Sean
February 25, 2018, 04:44 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180225/f86dd849048470b80b799d6f437df221.jpg

Went to Qualifying of the US GP this last year with a couple friends and the Mrs. Hereís a cool shot of the main straight with the large hill leading up to Turn 1 at COTA. Hope it looks okay - just a cell phone pic.


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puroagave
February 25, 2018, 05:00 PM
I love the papaya orange livery of the McLaren's, harkens back to the days when Bruce's cars dominated CanAm won Indy and in F1 all those years ago. Im def an F1 watcher, have been a huge fan since '75. The first GP I attended was Long Beach in '76, I was at Cooks Corner when the flag dropped and Hunt ran up the back of Lauda's Ferrari.

this year, I believe will once again be Mercedes' championship to lose. the Fiats (red cars) will undoubtedly be their closest rival but I ain't a Vettel fan, so there. Verstappen's antics will most likely keep me tuned in this season. I've been threatening to attend COTA for the Austin round and prob will. Id also take the opportunity to visit an audio buddy living there.

Sean
February 25, 2018, 10:28 PM
I guess bad for me as i dont have ESPN and ABC traditionally only does Monaco and USGP ...

Yes, I think the Mexican GP will be on ABC, too. Thatís a bummer. I thought I read that Liberty was going to do a streaming service this year. My understanding was that a portion is to be free with the option to upgrade for some shekels. Iíll see if I can find some info on it.


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Sean
February 25, 2018, 10:50 PM
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/132542/f1-plans-to-launch-live-streaming-service


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Ritmo
February 25, 2018, 11:23 PM
Looking forward to the season. Maybe Ferrari or Red Bull will de throne Mercedes. Will McLaren have a better year? Will Honda’s engine propel Toro Roso to better results? ... We’ll find out starting on 3/22!

Glareskin
February 26, 2018, 09:43 AM
I definitely hope the Red Bull car is more competitive from the start this year so Max can show what he is really worth! Go Max!!!!

https://cdn-4.motorsport.com/images/mgl/2erdzXpY/s8/f1-spanish-gp-2016-the-podium-race-winner-max-verstappen-red-bull-racing-second-place-kimi.jpg

a.wayne
February 26, 2018, 10:42 AM
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/132542/f1-plans-to-launch-live-streaming-service (https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/132542/f1-plans-to-launch-live-streaming-service)


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That would be great unfortunately pre existing deals prolly means no US coverage ..:

a.wayne
February 26, 2018, 10:45 AM
I definitely hope the Red Bull car is more competitive from the start this year so Max can show what he is really worth! Go Max!!!!

https://cdn-4.motorsport.com/images/mgl/2erdzXpY/s8/f1-spanish-gp-2016-the-podium-race-winner-max-verstappen-red-bull-racing-second-place-kimi.jpg

Max is top tier unfortunately the Current WWF1 format is more about the show between choosen ones than any real racing ..

Sean
February 27, 2018, 01:52 PM
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-launches-ad-free-streaming-service-for-races-1009599/?s=1

No real 'concrete' details but the article does specify service in the US.

Elberoth
March 25, 2018, 06:13 AM
Results matter little as the race unfolded like this:

Build up, anticipation, excitement of lap 1, clam, boring, dull, duller, dullest, dim, pitch black of complete darkness, sleeping, woke up, Vettle won, press talking rubbish, turned it off and knocked over my coffee https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/emoji.php/v9/f91/1/16/2615.png☕️. Morning wasted.

Kingsrule
March 25, 2018, 12:37 PM
The 2018 coverage on ESPN here in the states SUCKED. I guess its the same feed worldwide now. SkyTV or something. I want last years team back.

Can't understand the 2 Brits doing the commentary and really don't know or care about the Brit slang. Their humor is boring. Its horrible.

I do however like the new on screen graphics.

As far as the race went, handing the win via Virtual Safety Car has got to be figured out. Wins need to be decided on the track, in anger.......

Sharp 2160
March 25, 2018, 12:49 PM
The 2018 coverage on ESPN here in the states SUCKED. I guess its the same feed worldwide now. SkyTV or something. I want last years team back.

Can't understand the 2 Brits doing the commentary and really don't know or care about the Brit slang. Their humor is boring. Its horrible.

I do however like the new on screen graphics.

As far as the race went, handing the win via Virtual Safety Car has got to be figured out. Wins need to be decided on the track, in anger.......

I love the new coverage as it shows the Sky feed. It isn't like NBCSN did any better. They just had Hobbs(pro Hamilton), Matchett and Diffey (who got on my nerves in the beginning).The pre race coverage was nice also. It is what it is. I remember when we had 15 mins of F1 coverage on ABC's wide World of Sports. Much better theses days.

Kingsrule
March 25, 2018, 01:32 PM
There was no pre race coverage here..just a shot of one turn slack jam, over and over

Each to their own....

annapolis Raider
March 25, 2018, 09:47 PM
I'm with you Kingsrule. While the new coverage team is good in some respects, I miss the old guys. They really need to address the rules, how the hell can you have the winning pass on a yellow flag???

a.wayne
March 26, 2018, 12:37 AM
I'm with you Kingsrule. While the new coverage team is good in some respects, I miss the old guys. They really need to address the rules, how the hell can you have the winning pass on a yellow flag???


Because Whiney second in the fastest car cant pass ....

Ritmo
March 27, 2018, 07:10 AM
I definitely miss the Hobbs and Matchett. They were funny and provided relevant technical comments. The new coverage on ESPN so far is ok but, to me, lacking. Certainly Liberty appears to be ok with US TV coverage to be on ESPN’s secondary channels and not willing to invest in better presenters like Hobbs and Matchett - just my opinion. Likely a financial decision to leverage Sky’s coverage.

Jim Smith
March 27, 2018, 01:55 PM
Except for taking a break after Senna was killed in the crash, I've always followed and watched F1.

Don't know if I will continue, due to the - IMO - boring coverage. I want last year's guys back...

Kingsrule
April 6, 2018, 11:54 AM
WOW
Looks like Liberty wants to take F1 down the Indy Car path. So far they have been idiots......

Kingsrule
April 15, 2018, 10:42 AM
So China didn't record....anyone else have this happen?

Also On The Grid only recorded approx 6 minutes

This on DirecTV btw........

Ritmo
April 15, 2018, 11:06 AM
I have Frontier and it did record. It was a great race. Hope it is replayed today so you can watch it.

annapolis Raider
April 15, 2018, 01:40 PM
Just finished watching.... who says there's no passing in F1, great race

Sharp 2160
April 15, 2018, 02:55 PM
Now that is how an F1 race is supposed to be run. Talk about comebacks and drama. I have the pre race and races set up separately to record. I also lost part of On the Grid. I changed my settings to allow extra time for both programs. I do like the pre race coverage provided by Sky.

Sean
April 15, 2018, 05:48 PM
Great win for Danny-boy!


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puroagave
April 15, 2018, 06:01 PM
as long as vettel steps on his dick the remainder of the season im a happy camper, even tho he was punted off by Max (keep effin' with the establishment my man!)

Agreed it was a great win for DR and his overtakes at this Chinese GP will be talked about for some time.

Sharp 2160
April 15, 2018, 07:09 PM
In regards to Max Verstappen attempted pass on Vettel, I will use the same quote from former MotoGP world champion Casey Stoner that he told Valentino Rossi when they had a similar incident. "Your ambition outweighed your talent"! I give Max credit as there was a gap for a second and he tried to occupy it. F1 needs some other types of passing besides pit stops.

Jim Smith
April 15, 2018, 07:49 PM
as long as vettel steps on his dick the remainder of the season im a happy camper, even tho he was punted off by Max (keep effin' with the establishment my man!)

Agreed it was a great win for DR and his overtakes at this Chinese GP will be talked about for some time.

Ricardo (whom I like) would never have been able to do it were it not for the fresh tires just as the safety car came out & the Mercedes & Ferraris were blocked from doing so.

So if youíre not a Vettel fan, who do you follow?


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puroagave
April 16, 2018, 12:24 AM
Ricardo (whom I like) would never have been able to do it were it not for the fresh tires just as the safety car came out & the Mercedes & Ferraris were blocked from doing so.

So if you’re not a Vettel fan, who do you follow?


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fresh rubber or not, it takes commitment overtaking in a braking zone when the probable outcome is wheel banging with someone going off. DR showed he's got maturity vis-a-vis Max, for instance.

I follow any and all teams/drivers that take wins away from the horsey cars :) I'm not a Fiat fan they've manipulated their way with FIA and every governing body since the '50s and a loss on their books is a win in mind. As for Vettel, DR proved to be the more mentally fit teammate in '14. With identical equipment Ricardo showed Vettel his heels more often than not.

tube-vds
April 16, 2018, 06:20 AM
best race for me, since a long time.

and concering Verstappen; when i think back of what Vettel did with Webber 2007-2013 and how Schumacher won some titles in his career...

soastrup
April 16, 2018, 01:36 PM
Ricardo (whom I like) would never have been able to do it were it not for the fresh tires just as the safety car came out & the Mercedes & Ferraris were blocked from doing so.

So if youíre not a Vettel fan, who do you follow?


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Magnussen in the #20 Haas. Fellow dane and a feisty character by all accounts.

a.wayne
April 16, 2018, 02:15 PM
I definitely miss the Hobbs and Matchett. They were funny and provided relevant technical comments. The new coverage on ESPN so far is ok but, to me, lacking. Certainly Liberty appears to be ok with US TV coverage to be on ESPNís secondary channels and not willing to invest in better presenters like Hobbs and Matchett - just my opinion. Likely a financial decision to leverage Skyís coverage.

While i do like the pairing , i dont miss their continuous meandering and lack of proper race commentary ...

a.wayne
April 16, 2018, 02:18 PM
In regards to Max Verstappen attempted pass on Vettel, I will use the same quote from former MotoGP world champion Casey Stoner that he told Valentino Rossi when they had a similar incident. "Your ambition outweighed your talent"! I give Max credit as there was a gap for a second and he tried to occupy it. F1 needs some other types of passing besides pit stops.


Casey Stoner ....�� Vale's jocks are too massive for him to carry .... :roflmao:

a.wayne
April 16, 2018, 02:21 PM
fresh rubber or not, it takes commitment overtaking in a braking zone when the probable outcome is wheel banging with someone going off. DR showed he's got maturity vis-a-vis Max, for instance.

I follow any and all teams/drivers that take wins away from the horsey cars :) I'm not a Fiat fan they've manipulated their way with FIA and every governing body since the '50s and a loss on their books is a win in mind. As for Vettel, DR proved to be the more mentally fit teammate in '14. With identical equipment Ricardo showed Vettel his heels more often than not.


Both Faux 4's are propped up constantly , there are at least 4 guys easily better than those two and BTW , all of Vettels teammates ( going back to his BMW days ) were faster than him , not just DR ...

Kingsrule
May 2, 2018, 12:23 PM
OK I have to say the ESPN coverage is starting to grow on me. It appears that the current guys have better access to the drivers and team personal, especially on the grid walk.....and I don not miss the podium interview. It was stupid.

Shaping up to be a very interesting season.

Golum
May 2, 2018, 04:32 PM
Being the F1 topic, yesterday was 24 years since Ayrton tragically died...for me personally the day when i stopped following F1


https://youtu.be/2Y94vptAbKY

Jim Smith
May 2, 2018, 04:46 PM
Being the F1 topic, yesterday was 24 years since Ayrton tragically died...for me personally the day when i stopped following F1


https://youtu.be/2Y94vptAbKY

I stopped on that day as well. But after a dozen years or so, I came back.

Still miss Ayrton to this day. Especially on rainy days at the track...

puroagave
May 2, 2018, 08:32 PM
last month I visited the Donington GP Collection in the UK, its largest assemblage of historic and recent F1 cars in one place. There's a Senna tribute section and statue outside the park of Fangio and Senna sharing the podium :) Donington was the site of what was--arguably--Senna's greatest drive in the wet when he passed 5 cars (including Prost) in the opening lap to take the lead and win the '93 European GP. The mP4/8 he drove in that race is pictured in Marlboro livery along with his last mount in which he lost his life, the Williams Fw16.

Kingsrule
May 26, 2018, 12:23 PM
Monaco Qualy....I didn't get it today. Anyone else have this happen? ESPN/Sky really need to button things up.....

Sean
May 26, 2018, 01:49 PM
I watched via ESPN 3 after it was completed and didnít have issues.


Monaco Qualy....I didn't get it today. Anyone else have this happen? ESPN/Sky really need to button things up.....




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soastrup
May 27, 2018, 06:54 PM
I really dont think they could have organised a more boring GP if they tried. Race to the first stop and then cruising to the end - OMG. People paid a lot of money for this, sorry for them!

CPP
May 27, 2018, 09:17 PM
I really dont think they could have organised a more boring GP if they tried. Race to the first stop and then cruising to the end - OMG. People paid a lot of money for this, sorry for them!

I agree watched it after the Indy 500. This F1 race it was so darn boring.

puroagave
May 27, 2018, 10:16 PM
I really dont think they could have organised a more boring GP if they tried. Race to the first stop and then cruising to the end - OMG. People paid a lot of money for this, sorry for them!

What did you expect?? Monaco is a procession, always has been and always will be. Unless it rains only the top four, maybe six qualifiers have a chance at winning and if you said top 3 qualifiers you'd get no argument from me.

Have you been to the Monaco GP?? The last and only time I attended was in 2004, the v10 era when they screamed past 20k revs. i took my then girlfriend (now ex-wife) and she knew nothing about motorsport but her outburst of euphoria when the cars screamed past was priceless. only because Im from the non-PC generation, i'll say it for what it is: The Monaco GP is the single greatest display of tits & Ass in all the Continitent and the only place to be, to see and--if you're anyone special--be seen. you have to remember its the weekend following the Cannes film festival so you get that crowd too.

bottom line, Monaco is a part of the trinity every professional driver wants on their CV (Le Mans, Indy & Monaco). If you want to watch a 'real' F1 race its either Spa or Suzuka and arguably Monza. To be honest, you're better off watching the Monaco GP on TV and only attending it for the spectacle that it is. It was on my bucket list and it lived up to the hype and then some.

puroagave
May 27, 2018, 11:00 PM
I agree watched it after the Indy 500. This F1 race it was so darn boring.

well deserved win for will powers but Ed Carpenter was SO close (relatively speaking). I was rooting for Ed, as being Indiana's own and as a team owner (he only does indy and sits out the rest of the season). the proverbial all-American story had he pulled it off.

KeithR
May 28, 2018, 01:21 PM
Yeah, Monaco indeed is more spectacle than race.

Says a lot the top 5 didn't change yesterday. Indy wasn't much better with all the crashes due to the new car...and the 600 finale ended like Monaco.

Just an average day of racing :(

Ritmo
May 29, 2018, 03:11 PM
A group of friends traditionally get together on the Sunday of Memorial Day Weekend for a full day of racing. We start with breakfast in Monaco. Then, Indianapolis for lunch. And, to a lesser degree, the NASCAR 600 mile race for dinner and beyond since the race lasts a lifetime. This year, none of the races met expectations.

We always look forward to this weekend since it has become a tradition for us over the last seven years. A day of racing, great food, beverages and friends - doesn't get much better than that!

Jim Smith
May 29, 2018, 04:14 PM
This year, none of the races met expectations.

I agree 100%. Most boring day of racing I can remember. And I recorded it. So I could fast forward. But ff to what? :boing:

Kingsrule
May 31, 2018, 10:42 AM
I thought it was interesting that Tony George was at Indy telling drivers to start their engines.

The guy who ruined American open wheel racing...he must have loved the 2018 Indy race. Cookie cutter cars, no passing, no passion, no nothing. Lets see, my favorite team is....all of them. None of them. Wow, the're all the same. Just like him. A total douche......

Ritmo
June 7, 2018, 11:11 PM
Hoping for an exciting race in Canada this weekend. Some teams will have upgraded engines and aero packages. Looks like Mercedes will not bring their new spec engine to this race.

I’ve been to the F1 race in Montreal before. A great track and fabulous venue.

Sean
June 8, 2018, 03:01 PM
Me too. I feel like this is a pretty cool track. Letís hope for a competitive Sunday.


Hoping for an exciting race in Canada this weekend. Some teams will have upgraded engines and aero packages. Looks like Mercedes will not bring their new spec engine to this race.

Iíve been to the F1 race in Montreal before. A great track and fabulous venue.




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Sean
June 10, 2018, 02:39 PM
With the race in North America, itís nice to be able to watch live. Who does everyone have for todayís winner?

Letís go, Danny.


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a.wayne
June 10, 2018, 02:50 PM
Danny ...!

CGabriel
June 10, 2018, 02:51 PM
With the race in North America, itís nice to be able to watch live. Who does everyone have for todayís winner?

Letís go, Danny.


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Verstappen unless he crashes on the first lap going for the lead.
If he gets the lead, I think the Redbul, has the race pace to hold off Ferrari who will likely make a strategic mistake.

CGabriel
June 10, 2018, 02:54 PM
Danny ...!

Canít go wrong with Daniel. He has proven himself to be the ďcloserĒ.
And like Alonso he can drive a car beyond its capability without crashing it.

a.wayne
June 10, 2018, 02:57 PM
Yep ,

agree , he is faster than Max over the race distance , Max is better on cold tires and being out of control when he has the room. Danny’s race pace is relentless like Alonso..

a.wayne
June 10, 2018, 02:58 PM
Verstappen unless he crashes on the first lap going for the lead.
If he gets the lead, I think the Redbul, has the race pace to hold off Ferrari who will likely make a strategic mistake.


Vettel always falls off under pressure ....

CPP
June 10, 2018, 05:14 PM
Vettel always falls off under pressure ....

Not today :D

puroagave
June 10, 2018, 06:01 PM
Vettel always falls off under pressure ....

precisely, a Fairweather champion. he's been caught watching his mirrors more often than road ahead of him.

Elberoth
June 10, 2018, 06:27 PM
Vettel always falls off under pressure ....

Yeah, that is how you become 4x WDC, lol.

Elberoth
June 10, 2018, 06:39 PM
Yep ,

agree , he is faster than Max over the race distance , Max is better on cold tires and being out of control when he has the room. Danny’s race pace is relentless like Alonso..

I'm a RIC fan myself, but I have to disagree. VER is usually faster, like he was today, but his driving style gets him into trouble all too often. VER has retired 7x (!) during 2017 season alone.

In spite of those retirements, RIC was actually faster throughout the race distance than RIC 5x, and RIC finished higher than VER only 2x. Same in Q3. 1:3 for VER.

a.wayne
June 10, 2018, 07:08 PM
Yeah, that is how you become 4x WDC, lol.


4 times faux Champion , easy to do when your team won’t allow your teammate to challenge , and you are in the best car ,


Ask Lewis ..

a.wayne
June 10, 2018, 07:09 PM
I'm a RIC fan myself, but I have to disagree. VER is usually faster, like he was today, but his driving style gets him into trouble all too often. VER has retired 7x (!) during 2017 season alone.

In spite of those retirements, RIC was actually faster throughout the race distance than RIC 5x, and RIC finished higher than VER only 2x. Same in Q3. 1:3 for VER.


Chk fastest laps today and get back with me .... :)

Vern is the faster driver , over one lap and on cold tires, he makes his time up on cold tires at start Ric the more complete driver , Vern’s lack of smoothness and precision makes him slower on street courses and in general vs Ric .

His cold tire speed is a big advantage on tracks difficult to pass on , today ric lost too much time behind Hammy and had no chance of staying in touch with Vern.

He will win more races and score more points than Vern again this year, he is still the more complete driver at this stage..



Regards

Elberoth
June 10, 2018, 07:16 PM
Yeah, right - so it is very much like with Bottas vs HAM. Bottas is atually better, but Mercedes does not let him win.

Just don't tell anyone, will you, lol.

a.wayne
June 10, 2018, 07:19 PM
Yeah, right - so it is very much like with Bottas vs HAM. Bottar is atually better, but Mercedes does not let him win.

Just don't tell anyone, will you, lol.

I have told many over the decades , won alot on bets too , if you are willing to wager, I’m game , this WWF1 game is easy to predict ..

before you bet , Disclosure , I’m a race engineer by profession, i know a bit more than your TV tells you ...


regards

Elberoth
June 10, 2018, 07:24 PM
You are a funny guy, I must say. One of the most amusing to read. Not only on this topic.

You have just said RIC is 'faster than Max over the race distance', but now, to backup your claims, you want me to check who was actually slower 'over the race distance', but did the fastest lap (when fuel levels dropped, nobody cared anymore and the top guys just wanted to baby their cars home [or had to save fuel like Bottas]).

Makes sense, LOL.

a.wayne
June 10, 2018, 07:33 PM
I’m fond of you too Adam .. :)


Anyway Danny had the fastest lap, i’m aware of your lack of understanding to this significance ..


As your knowledge base increase what i say will have more significant meaning to you , Like your claim on Porsches disproved by JD Powers as well as others ..

But feel free to put up some cash , i say Danny will finish ahead of Max this year , even if Max decides to take him out again, do we have a wager or are you all talk :)

regards

a.wayne
June 10, 2018, 07:46 PM
Adam ,

Did you miss them robbing Danny at Monaco and giving that race to Lewis , no wait you actually thought it was a team error ...


:)

Elberoth
June 10, 2018, 07:56 PM
Exactly. RIC had the fastest lap, but was slower than VER during the race distance. Which is the exact oposite of what you have claimed just a few posts earlier.

With one I can agree - RIC (my fav driver, BTW), may very well finish the season higher than VER. Not because he has more raw speed. But because he is more consistent.

PS. If you take your knowledge of Porsche reliability (engine problems related to specific Porsche engine types) from JD Powers, then ... well, I can only recommend you to talk to people who actually work on those cars for a living instead. Don't race them, as this is something totally different - work on daily driven Porsches, see how they age and learn about their model specific problems.

Again - I'm a Porsche owner myself. I have no reason to discredit one of my fav brands. Just can't stand when I see someone spreading false information.

a.wayne
June 10, 2018, 08:04 PM
Adam i had already given you my opinion on it all , never said Ric was faster than Max , as to this race Ric had lost out on catching Max because of lewis , his FTD proves he had the pace to stay with Max , he is not going to be faster every race , i was giving you a breakdown on how i see each of their performance differences and how each will react to changes and race disrance pace , which is very important ..

Do we have a bet ...? Less make it a Bottle .. :)


regards

a.wayne
June 10, 2018, 08:06 PM
Exactly. RIC had the fastest lap, but was slower than VER during the race distance. Which is the exact oposite of what you have claimed just a few posts earlier.

With one I can agree - RIC (my fav driver, BTW), may very well finish the season higher than VER. Not because he has more raw speed. But because he is more consistent.

PS. If you take your knowledge of Porsche reliability (engine problems related to specific Porsche engine types) from JD Powers, then ... well, I can only recommend you to talk to people who actually work on those cars for a living instead. Don't race them, as this is something totally different - work on daily driven Porsches, see how they age and learn about their model specific problems.

Again - I'm a Porsche owner myself. I have no reason to discredit one of my fav brands. Just can't stand when I see someone spreading false information.


So it was a self inflicted blow on your part Then ..... :)

Elberoth
June 10, 2018, 08:33 PM
Bet on what ? That RIC will finish higher then VER ? I have already said it is perfectly possible. Please be so kind and read people posts in full, if you want to engage into discussion.

a.wayne
June 10, 2018, 09:46 PM
Lol , The Irony .... :) :) :)

KeithR
June 11, 2018, 01:34 PM
totally lame race yesterday in Montreal.

Sean
June 11, 2018, 01:54 PM
Youíre telling me. I actually fell asleep on the couch for a few minutes during the middle of the race. Hopefully, the next GP is more entertaining.



totally lame race yesterday in Montreal.




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CGabriel
June 11, 2018, 05:09 PM
A dominant run by Vettel and Ferrari. This race really highlights how difficult it is to pass with the aero of these cars.

Sean
June 11, 2018, 09:01 PM
A dominant run by Vettel and Ferrari. This race really highlights how difficult it is to pass with the aero of these cars.

I think I heard next yearís specs will seek to reduce the bad air thrown back behind the cars so itís easier to follow closely, thus (hopefully) resulting in more overtaking. I hope that to be the case. I think they upíd the rev limit a couple thousand RPMís, too.


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a.wayne
June 11, 2018, 09:42 PM
A dominant run by Vettel and Ferrari. This race really highlights how difficult it is to pass with the aero of these cars.


The Brakes is the real issue not really the aero , if The FIA was really serious about this they would do away with the ETC and auto trans , shifting can be paddle but driver activated only , no drivers aids like anti-stall, TC , etc ..

Regards

Ritmo
June 12, 2018, 08:51 AM
The Canada GP was not as exciting as expected.

A fairly easy win for Ferrari. Red Bull showing what a great car can do even if a bit underpowered (with the Renault engine). McLaren showing what a terrible car (no longer can blame Honda) can do with the same Renault engine and one of the best drivers in the world - SeŮor Alonso. Mercedes will be back, and, kudos to Bottas who remains very consistent with another podium. And, with such a great car, Kimi could do no better than 6 - it’s been a while since he’s done anything special on the track.

All in all, it remains a good year for F1. The drivers championship is very tight and three different teams have won races. I hope it remains this way for the rest of the season.

CPP
June 12, 2018, 08:56 AM
The Brakes is the real issue not really the aero , if The FIA was really serious about this they would do away with the ETC and auto trans , shifting can be paddle but driver activated only , no drivers aids like anti-stall, TC , etc ..

Regards

Its not the brakes that keep F1 from passing, ts the track and the top cars at the front. Plenty of cars are passing at the middle to the end of the pack. Its like that in any racing, cars bikes, boats.

Also, the semi-audto gear boxes have been around since 1986 when Williams started development followed by Ferrari in 89. . 95 percent of engine failures in the old days were caused by a driver changing down too early and over-revving the engine. The moment you have gear-shifting under electronic control, over-revved engines are out the door and life is much cheaper!”

KeithR
June 12, 2018, 12:42 PM
A dominant run by Vettel and Ferrari. This race really highlights how difficult it is to pass with the aero of these cars.

what's passing?

KeithR
June 12, 2018, 12:44 PM
Kimi should have done a 2 pit stop race. Wouldn't have cost him anything. If you aren't going to try to mix it up, you deserve crappy 6th place.

The fact that 7th was a full 1:10 behind says everything about today's F1...


, with such a great car, Kimi could do no better than 6 - it’s been a while since he’s done anything special on the track.

Sean
June 12, 2018, 11:02 PM
In my humble opinion, some of the bigger contributors to the lack of wheel-to-wheel racing and overtaking are: pure power/performance gap (top three teams vs everyone else); aero causing bad washing of trailing air which makes it hard for cars to follow closely behind on anything but the straights; indirect effects of FIA regulations seeking to curb high costs (i.e., 3 power unit ceiling for each driver forcing drivers/teams to prioritize power unit longevity as opposed to pushing the car harder for the full duration of races); the width and weight of the cars, and lack of refueling.

When the formula was smaller, lighter cars with simpler aero, and no penalties for burning through endless amounts of engines, it produced more glorious races.

Eliminating or scaling back the fuel injection restriction and upping the rev limiter (19 or 20K) would help, too, I think. At the very least it will give us a more pleasant engine note.

In my dream, weíd lop off the hybrid portion of the power unit and increase the cylinder count and displacement.


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a.wayne
June 13, 2018, 09:04 AM
Sean ,

Curious how long have you been watching the sport ? DRS is vastly more helpful to passing than anything from the past , no more than 2 teams have ever been capable of winning championships at a time , with rare exceptions ..

Plenty passes if steel brakes , much longer braking distance for DRS to work , but also passes mid race will have less effect and meaning until last 10 laps or so , kinda like watching Nascar with many passes where only the last 10 laps count ..


Regards

a.wayne
June 13, 2018, 09:11 AM
Its not the brakes that keep F1 from passing, ts the track and the top cars at the front. Plenty of cars are passing at the middle to the end of the pack. Its like that in any racing, cars bikes, boats.

Also, the semi-audto gear boxes have been around since 1986 when Williams started development followed by Ferrari in 89. . 95 percent of engine failures in the old days were caused by a driver changing down too early and over-revving the engine. The moment you have gear-shifting under electronic control, over-revved engines are out the door and life is much cheaper!”

That semi auto box is not what they have today , that original design was supplied to F1 by Weismann , ferrari was the first to my knowledge and the first to race with it . Plenty passes in Bike racing even at the front , only did 2 yrs of Boat racing not for me ...


Regards

Sean
June 13, 2018, 09:58 AM
Only been watching the past few years but watch documentaries and old races online. Does this discount my credibility? [emoji3]

I agree that longer braking distances would also help and would reward drivers who can demonstrate better finesse and handling skills. The countless remarks from drivers about not being able to follow closely because of bad air canít be a myth, though. Same goes for team engineers telling drivers to back off to protect the car.

I donít think DRS is all that bad but do see it as a way to just manufacture passing (as opposed to raw racing - drivers taking a better line, braking later, getting on the power earlier, etc.).

Hey, I would take more passing that renders each one less inherently effective. I donít necessarily think that it means only the last ten laps count but more that leading halfway doesnít mean youíve secured a probable victory. Either way, Iíd take the last ten laps counting over just the first couple like we have now. I think a good analogy of this is soccer (for me) - I enjoy highlights of goals cause they are fun but feel they are too few and far between during games. More scoring makes each goal slightly less valuable on paper but makes the end product more satisfying to watch.

I get that that the top couple teams will separate themselves - the cream always rises to the top. But overall, I just think F1 could be more exciting, and want it to be cause I enjoy it so much. Perhaps the rumors will be true and Porsche (and others) will enter F1 as an engine supplier and inject some balance by reducing the disparity of engine power across the teams.


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Sean
June 13, 2018, 10:05 AM
Iím confused on the transmission discussion - my understanding is that they are manual in the sense that the car wonít shift unless prompted by the driver via paddles. But not manual in the sense that there is a stick shift. So a sequential gearbox like in a motorcycle.


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Sean
June 13, 2018, 10:43 AM
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/technical/2018/6/tech-tuesday--2019-f1-rules-spice-up-racing.html


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CPP
June 13, 2018, 11:51 AM
That semi auto box is not what they have today , that original design was supplied to F1 by Weismann , ferrari was the first to my knowledge and the first to race with it . Plenty passes in Bike racing even at the front , only did 2 yrs of Boat racing not for me ...


Regards

Regarding the semi-autio. Its in the F1 rules for 2018

"Semi-automatic gearboxes are permitted but automatic gear changes and Constantly Variable Transmission (CVT) systems are not." Its how the paddles work for shifting, controlled by electronics.

More on Williams and the gear box http://www.racecar-engineering.com/technology-explained/formula-1-sequential-gearboxes/

Could never get into boat racing, something about having no control while zipping across the water and making turns at 100+ . Heck , my bassboat scared the crap out of me going 65 and I still had a lot of throttle left all while thinking I sure hope there is not a gator out front.

Kingsrule
June 13, 2018, 11:57 AM
Needed changes IMO:

More latitude in car designs
18" or bigger wheels
At least 6 engines/season 3 is too limiting
Get rid of the brake harvesting, batteries, electric motors
Get rid of staggered start...line em up in rows of 2 equally
Having to run 2 tire compounds is stupid, let em run as few or as many as they want
Another tire manufacture would be great

Kingsrule
June 25, 2018, 11:08 AM
France .....and the proper order is restored!

Jim Smith
June 25, 2018, 11:39 AM
France .....and the proper order is restored!

We must have seen different races.

Hamilton won instead of Vettel. :(

Even so, at least it was more interesting than the previous two...

Sean
June 25, 2018, 11:56 AM
Enough overtaking to be fun in France this weekend. Hopefully some of that action will be prevalent toward the front of the pack, too, for this weekís coming GP. A lonely race for Ham, I imagine.


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Sean
October 27, 2018, 04:26 PM
24045

Podium finishers on their final lap in Austin last week.


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puroagave
October 28, 2018, 06:18 PM
Congrats to Lewis!:congrats:

I wish I were as good at predicting the stock market as I am F1 championships. I'd actually be driving/owning a McLaren Senna and Mercedes-AMG One instead of dreaming about it. :lol:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/formula-1/2018/10/28/TELEMMGLPICT000179150871_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqxXCI9Wh-V1PVtkHuRtXNlB4_49E1byQRqud4LAuqyTk.jpeg?imwidth=4 50

Ritmo
October 28, 2018, 11:17 PM
It was a great season.

I went to Austin last week and enjoyed the fight at the front for the last part of the race.

Mercedes and Lewis proved to be too much for the much improved Ferrari package. Congrats to Lewis’ on his 5th F1 Drivers Championship.

Unfortunatetly, the championship has been decided with two more races before the season is over.

Elberoth
November 11, 2018, 03:21 PM
Max vs Ocon after the race:

https://www.facebook.com/powrotrobertablogspotcom/videos/667717030290744/

imprezap2
November 11, 2018, 05:02 PM
reasonably polite from Max, Ocon cost him the victory by a not necessary move. (1 lap behind)

puroagave
November 11, 2018, 10:44 PM
reasonably polite from Max, Ocon cost him the victory by a not necessary move. (1 lap behind)

Reasonably polite?! its chutzpah (karma?) considering how many shunts Max himself has caused, gettin' a taste of his own medicine is more like it--and I'm a Max fan! I also followed Jos back in the day.

Ritmo
November 11, 2018, 11:56 PM
Good and competitive race today. Hamilton is very good and lucky. Max is very talented and young. His time will come. Ocon made a stupid move but thatís now history.

A shift taking place in F1. Former champions about to retire or close to retirement. New young talent coming in with lots to prove.

tube-vds
November 12, 2018, 07:00 AM
I think without Verstappen F1 would be very boring.

owldiscourse
November 15, 2018, 08:07 AM
Good and competitive race today. Hamilton is very good and lucky. Max is very talented and young. His time will come. Ocon made a stupid move but thatís now history.

A shift taking place in F1. Former champions about to retire or close to retirement. New young talent coming in with lots to prove.

Wait! Whoís retiring? Surely not Lewis?!?


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Ritmo
November 15, 2018, 09:26 AM
Wait! Who’s retiring? Surely not Lewis?!?


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Alonso is leaving F1. Kimi is moving to Sauber for his last 2 years. Two former world champions sunsetting their careers.

Sean
March 13, 2019, 09:58 PM
Pumped for the Australian GP this weekend! Lot of things Iím excited to see how they play out - new aero rules; Honda in the RB cars; drivers in a new cars; rookie drivers.


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owldiscourse
March 13, 2019, 10:03 PM
Pumped for the Australian GP this weekend! Lot of things I’m excited to see how they play out - new aero rules; Honda in the RB cars; drivers in a new cars; rookie drivers.


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VERY excited for this too, especially after seeing the Netflix F1 series in 4k which has been awesome at giving more insights into the other teams (besides Ferrari and Merc) and their challenges. Just finished watching the episode when Ricciardo changes teams from RB to Renault. They did an excellent job of putting this together and conveying the tension and pressure that the teams and drivers experience. The 4k and sound are AWESOME, too! Great appetizer for the main course this weekend is to binge the whole season!

Sean
March 13, 2019, 10:11 PM
I watched the Netflix special throughout this past week. They did a great job! Liberty is working hard to appeal to the US market.

The color correction and editing were incredible, I agree. And I only streamed in 1080p.


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Jim Smith
March 13, 2019, 11:04 PM
I am also excited to see if they escape the generally boring events of last year.


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puroagave
March 13, 2019, 11:34 PM
the only interest I have in watching the horsey cars from fiat is Leclerc. I predict he's going to show vettel a clean set of heels more often than not. Im also looking forward to the wheel banging between Max and Charles--one could hope. I'll keep my championship prediction to myself until the Chinese or azerbaijan gp.

Elberoth
March 14, 2019, 03:40 AM
Sad news - FIA F1 race director Charlie Whiting died ahead of Australian GP

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/142088/fia-f1-race-director-charlie-whiting-dies

Ritmo
March 14, 2019, 07:31 AM
Whiting’s passing a big surprise and a significant loss to F1. RIP Charlie.

BTW, I’m hoping for a competitive season in 2019.

Speedskater
March 14, 2019, 10:39 AM
If only F1 was 10% as exciting as last week's 'IndyCar' open wheel race in St. Petersburg Florida.
But IndyCar has an amateur feel to it.
in race management
in team management
the drivers
in TV coverage

Sean
March 14, 2019, 11:03 AM
Iíve come to realize Qualifying should not be taken for granted, as far as viewer enjoyment. Itís where you really get to see each team, driver, and car show what itís capable of, turned up to 100. I always love seeing the onboard camera view for entire laps, especially in Q3.

That being said, hopefully this year proves to have fun, competitive, and exciting races.


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owldiscourse
March 14, 2019, 11:05 AM
If only F1 was 10% as exciting as last week's 'IndyCar' open wheel race in St. Petersburg Florida.
But IndyCar has an amateur feel to it.
in race management
in team management
the drivers
in TV coverage

And the slow pit stops lol

Speedskater
March 14, 2019, 03:46 PM
And the slow pit stops lol
And what could F1 do with the same (realistic) size pit crew and a small car fuel tank and a gravity feed hose?

Kingsrule
March 14, 2019, 05:20 PM
Come on guys, time to make 2019 predictions:

K: Constructor: Mercedes, Bulls, Ferrari. Botas comes in 3rd a bunch
Driver: Verstappen, Hamilton, Leclerc Lewis and Max down to final 2 races. Max hip checks Lewis for the championship....

Japanese do not like to be embarrassed Honda will be the power plant this year

Sean
March 14, 2019, 05:27 PM
As much as Merc and Sky F1 want us to believe Ferrari might have the edge, Merc has to be the favorite at the start. Saw a clip where Brundle spoke his mind and said as much, too. But it does appear that it will be even closer yet again this year.

Iím curious to see if the gap down to 3 has been closed by Red Bull with Honda now.

And the midfield looks to again be fun. I hope we get a couple wins from outside the top three teams; that would be neat.


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a.wayne
March 14, 2019, 09:30 PM
Come on guys, time to make 2019 predictions:

K: Constructor: Mercedes, Bulls, Ferrari. Botas comes in 3rd a bunch
Driver: Verstappen, Hamilton, Leclerc Lewis and Max down to final 2 races. Max hip checks Lewis for the championship....

Japanese do not like to be embarrassed Honda will be the power plant this year


Ha..!

Honda has been in the same embarrassing position for almost 3 decades now and you should add Danny to your drivers list, speaking of , Lewis does well when his teammates have to pull over ..

Regards ...

Kingsrule
March 14, 2019, 09:43 PM
Ha..!

Honda has been in the same embarrassing position for almost 3 decades now and you should add Danny to your drivers list, speaking of , Lewis does well when his teammates have to pull over ..

Regards ...

Really not interested in what I should change...stick it out and make your predictions..I'll bet u 100K "Danny" doesn't do dick.....

Kingsrule
March 16, 2019, 04:00 PM
Australia Qualifying....well the elephant danced amongst the chickens again...congrats to Lewis for kicking everyone's ass again. The best driver on the planet.

Ritmo
March 16, 2019, 04:50 PM
Yeap , unfortunately, more of the same. It’s a long season but Lewis and Mercedes are unstoppable these days.

Jim Smith
March 16, 2019, 05:16 PM
Boring...:boing::boing::boing:

Kingsrule
March 16, 2019, 07:14 PM
Boring...:boing::boing::boing:

U wouldn't be saying that if it was your boy Vettle

Don't watch.......

puroagave
March 16, 2019, 10:07 PM
Australia Qualifying....well the elephant danced amongst the chickens again...congrats to Lewis for kicking everyone's ass again. The best driver on the planet.

the King and I agreeing on something...who woulda thunk it :) A 6th drivers title for Ham is inevitable and he's quickly closing in on Schuey's record.

Sean
March 16, 2019, 11:53 PM
Though itís disappointing that Merc dusted everybody again today, Iím very excited about the race and upcoming season.

Letís wait and see!


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owldiscourse
March 17, 2019, 01:25 AM
Boring...:boing::boing::boing:

Dullsville. Same as it ever was


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tube-vds
March 17, 2019, 05:42 AM
F1 is dead.

CPP
March 17, 2019, 10:14 AM
Lost interest last year, moved over to IMSA racing

Kingsrule
March 17, 2019, 01:28 PM
Binotto already showed he's a pussy with his drivers....Leclerc would have buried Vettle

KeithR
March 17, 2019, 02:49 PM
nice uncompetitive race to start things off...will skip the next few and check back in for Spain to see if any improvement

at least new Honda engine has some promise for Red Bull

Elberoth
March 18, 2019, 06:01 PM
Binotto already showed he's a pussy with his drivers....Leclerc would have buried Vettle

Hamilton wouldn't have wont 5 WDC titles if he hadn't have the full support of his team (read: team orders).

It seems Ferrari had learn sth from Marcedes afterall.

Elberoth
March 18, 2019, 06:02 PM
nice uncompetitive race to start things off...will skip the next few and check back in for Spain to see if any improvement

at least new Honda engine has some promise for Red Bull

Honda and Red Bull were certainly very happy after the opening race.

Kingsrule
March 18, 2019, 06:07 PM
Hamilton wouldn't have wont 5 WDC titles if he hadn't have the full support of his team (read: team orders).

It seems Ferrari had learn sth from Marcedes afterall.

I see u r a F1 expert as well as a stiff......

Elberoth
March 18, 2019, 06:33 PM
Define an expert. I've been closely following F1 for 30 years. I'm frequent F1 forums. Def. a well informed fan.

Kingsrule
March 18, 2019, 08:51 PM
Define an expert. I've been closely following F1 for 30 years. I'm frequent F1 forums. Def. a well informed fan.

OK stiff,

Name the race and incident for each of Hamilton's 5 titles where team orders gave him the WDC.....2 minutes should be long enough..........

a.wayne
March 18, 2019, 11:43 PM
Hamilton wouldn't have wont 5 WDC titles if he hadn't have the full support of his team (read: team orders).

It seems Ferrari had learn sth from Marcedes afterall.

Actually its the other way , ask Herr Schumacher ....!

a.wayne
March 18, 2019, 11:46 PM
Define an expert. I've been closely following F1 for 30 years. I'm frequent F1 forums. Def. a well informed fan.


Haa ha , Forums .. :)

There are Currently 3 Faux champions , 1 Faux 7 and 2 Faux 5’s ....



Regards...

Elberoth
March 19, 2019, 05:36 AM
Agreed, Schumacher had full Ferrari support which lead to 7 WDC titles.

Team orders are not only about switching positions during the race (both LH and MS guilty as charged here). It is about not attacking the leader during the race, covering his back deliberately slowing down or undercutting the competing driver by forcing him to pit in non optimal part of the race etc. It is also often giving the new / improved parts to the leader first, which we have seen in many teams in the past.

Any fan who is deep enough in F1 and tactics understands this.

Kingsrule
March 19, 2019, 11:20 AM
Agreed, Schumacher had full Ferrari support which lead to 7 WDC titles.

Team orders are not only about switching positions during the race (both LH and MS guilty as charged here). It is about not attacking the leader during the race, covering his back deliberately slowing down or undercutting the competing driver by forcing him to pit in non optimal part of the race etc. It is also often giving the new / improved parts to the leader first, which we have seen in many teams in the past.

Any fan who is deep enough in F1 and tactics understands this.

stiff

I know the scope of team orders and so does a.wayne. There is nothing "deep" here, just common logic. Contrary to what u seem to think you aren't the only knowledgeable racing fan here.

Why didn't u answer post #137?

Elberoth
March 19, 2019, 02:36 PM
I have answered your question in my last post. If you still don't get it ... then I'm sorry.

Kingsrule
March 19, 2019, 04:21 PM
I have answered your question in my last post. If you still don't get it ... then I'm sorry.

stiff

Just admit it. You didn't answer because contrary to your proclamation the facts are that none of Hamilton's titles actually came down to a team order....

Jim Smith
March 19, 2019, 04:27 PM
Come on guys. This is AudioShark, the good guys’ forum. No need to argue incessantly about F1 - these days especially...

Dguitarnut
March 19, 2019, 05:34 PM
Yeah.....NASCAR rules!
Naww.......Having attended the St Petersburg Firestone Grand Prix a couple of weeks ago I am into Indy Racing.

a.wayne
March 19, 2019, 05:53 PM
Ha,

Its like analog and Digital Larry , both can be good why make Them mutually exclusive ...



Regards

Dguitarnut
March 19, 2019, 05:58 PM
Indy cars are faster.......:popcorn:
F1 fans use Grey Poopon on their prosciutto sandwiches.

a.wayne
March 19, 2019, 06:01 PM
Nascar tidbit ,

A few years back , Hendricks and teams with Hendricks powerplants we're having quite a bit of engine failures in 500 mile races , turns out everyone using German made Mahle pistons where having these failures , apparently Mahle ( one of the best piston makers ) had under estimated piston stresses on big ovals and pistons were coming apart .

Nascar engines have higher piston mean speed than even formula one and Mahle underestimated what the good ole boys already knew ...


Regards

Elberoth
March 19, 2019, 07:42 PM
Higher piston mean speed than the previous generation F1 engines, that used to rev up to almost 20.000 RPM ?

What is the stroke and RPM limit on IndyCar engines ?

a.wayne
March 19, 2019, 10:26 PM
Higher piston mean speed than the previous generation F1 engines, that used to rev up to almost 20.000 RPM ?

What is the stroke and RPM limit on IndyCar engines ?

Yes , higher than F1 engines , they rev to just about 10K and have a stroke long enuff for porn. :)



F1 engines have a stroke thats more like a buzz by comparison ....

Kingsrule
March 20, 2019, 09:25 AM
Once again stiff is demonstrating his great knowledge regarding cars....

He can't keep straight the difference between F1 motors and NASCAR motors....

Kingsrule
March 20, 2019, 09:31 AM
F1 1.6L V6 15,000rpm

IndyCar 2.2L V6 12,000rpm

NASCAR 5+/- L V8 9000rpm

Sean
March 20, 2019, 10:03 AM
I believe current F1 displacement is 1.6L. Rev limit is 15,000, but because of fuel flow regulations (100 kg/hr), I think most cars donít go much higher than 13K.

Talks suggest the 2021 rules will raise both of those, though. Revs to 18,000.


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Kingsrule
March 20, 2019, 10:37 AM
Yep 1.6

The pistons in a NASCAR motor are like coffee cans compared to a can of fruit in the other motors....

I'd love to see the top of the F1 motors be 20,000.....

Sean
March 20, 2019, 10:49 AM
I couldnít agree more. It would have to help the sound of the turboíd V6ís. Iíve conceded the dream of revisiting V8/10/12ís but a high revving version of what we have now could be cool in its own way (reliability issues aside).


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Elberoth
March 21, 2019, 05:12 AM
I believe current F1 displacement is 1.6L. Rev limit is 15,000, but because of fuel flow regulations (100 kg/hr), I think most cars don’t go much higher than 13K.

Talks suggest the 2021 rules will raise both of those, though. Revs to 18,000.


Lets hope the fuel flow limit will get rised (THE limiting factor right now). Nothing will bring back the screaming sound of the NA F1 engines reving up close to 20.000 RPM though :/

a.wayne
March 21, 2019, 06:36 AM
It would be interesting to see how they deal with Turbo back Pressure at 20K .. :)

Kingsrule
March 23, 2019, 12:12 PM
Someone finally had the balls (Ralph Schumacher) to call it like it is..Claire Williams has got to adapt or step down if Williams is to survive.

Her "deputy team principle" title is stupid and tells it like it is...she hides in the shadow of her father's past instead of forging her own present.

I fear Williams will close or be sold and that would be sad........

Sean
March 23, 2019, 02:10 PM
Someone finally had the balls (Ralph Schumacher) to call it like it is..Claire Williams has got to adapt or step down if Williams is to survive.

Her "deputy team principle" title is stupid and tells it like it is...she hides in the shadow of her father's past instead of forging her own present.

I fear Williams will close or be sold and that would be sad........

I agree. Running a historic F1 team that spends $200 million + each year means your last name can only take you so far before people demand a return. Especially a prestigious team like Williams.


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a.wayne
March 23, 2019, 09:10 PM
Firstly to save Williams , you gotta boot out whomever was involved in pulling Robert out of retirement ..


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a.wayne
March 23, 2019, 09:12 PM
I agree. Running a historic F1 team that spends $200 million + each year means your last name can only take you so far before people demand a return. Especially a prestigious team like Williams.


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Plenty was done to save Williams after Sennaís death, kinda hard to get by that fail ...

Frank Williams and Patrick head is Williams , Ron for all of his negative arseole tidbits is McClaren, same as Lotus without Chapman , the companies are driven by these personalities , difficult without ..!


Regards

a.wayne
March 23, 2019, 09:24 PM
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/miami-grand-prix-key-vote/4357364/

Sean
March 23, 2019, 09:27 PM
Plenty was done to save Williams after Sennaís death, kinda hard to get by that fail ...

Frank Williams and Patrick head is Williams , Ron for all of his negative arseole tidbits is McClaren, same as Lotus without Chapman , the companies are driven by these personalities , difficult without ..!


Regards

Iím not sure I understand. Are you saying Claire Williams is doing a sufficient job?


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a.wayne
March 23, 2019, 09:52 PM
No ,

Im saying she cant be Patrick Head and Frank Williams , Im saying she Is not the driving force behind Williams, very difficult shoes for Claire to fill ..

Speaking of Fail , Robert K is back , enuff said ...

Sean
March 23, 2019, 10:03 PM
No ,

Im saying she cant be Patrick Head and Frank Williams , Im saying she Is not the driving force behind Williams, very difficult shoes for Claire to fill ..

Speaking of Fail , Robert K is back , enuff said ...

I didnít say she had to be her dad or anyone else; just that she isnít getting it done. I agree that there are big shoes to fill, but she just isnít cutting it. And for that, I think she should step aside.


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a.wayne
March 24, 2019, 12:26 AM
I dont know how much of the blame is Claire’s , Paddy lowe was the Messiah from AMG to make things happen , both cars under his tenure are outright disasters, they took money for Kubicka seat which is not a good situation in itself , so , hard for me to say or agree if she should or shouldn't step down ..


Are Paddy Lowe fails Claires fault? did she fire him too late ? ... This is bigger than just Claire IMO ..

a.wayne
March 24, 2019, 12:37 AM
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Elberoth
March 24, 2019, 08:46 AM
You can have one bad car. But two horrid cars in a row ... that is beyound bad for such a respected team (that was considered 3rd fastest after Ferrari / Merc just 4 years ago!).

We do not know what is happening inside Wiliams. But from the rate engineers are leaving the team the situation inside the company must be as bad. And here I think Claire as a CEO is at fault.

They need new management to turn things around, show some promise and stop people quitting.

a.wayne
March 24, 2019, 10:30 AM
Two bad cars have nothing to do with Claire, Paddy lowe can attest to that , Lowe’s exit was mostly due to illegal parts on the car as per FIA , so not only a dud but an illegal dud ..

Lowe did not leave , he was sent packing ....

Easy to see the 19 car being a dud after 2018 model, due to the follow thru process . This year will most likely be a wash, as Williams will need a completly new chassis for 2020..

Totally expect the 2019 car to be a rolling test bed ..




Regards

Kingsrule
March 24, 2019, 12:00 PM
You can have one bad car. But two horrid cars in a row ... that is beyound bad for such a respected team (that was considered 3rd fastest after Ferrari / Merc just 4 years ago!).

We do not know what is happening inside Wiliams. But from the rate engineers are leaving the team the situation inside the company must be as bad. And here I think Claire as a CEO is at fault.

They need new management to turn things around, show some promise and stop people quitting.

stiff

CW is not the CEO, she's the Deputy Chief Administrator.....ie she's the face that carries out other's orders

Oly
March 24, 2019, 12:03 PM
I expect Williams to have difficulty getting sponsors for 2020 if this year continues like last year. Without adequate funding, the team will either be sold or cease to exist. Smedley’s departure at the end of last season was a no-confidence vote for this year.

a.wayne
March 24, 2019, 01:09 PM
Add Wood and De Beer names to that list , under Paddy lowe , the engineering and design team has been decimated ..

Lowe is coming from AMG, Williams run AMG power plants, the deal to run mercedes gearboxes was nixed in favor of their ally box where mercedes own box is carbon fibre ...

I can see Williams not wanting to close their gearbox dept and layoff those workers , once lost you cant regain ...


we will see ...



Regards

Elberoth
March 24, 2019, 03:32 PM
IMO if they want to stay competive, they have to switch to Mercedes gearboxes. There is just no other way at this point.

puroagave
May 21, 2019, 10:18 PM
An F1 legend passed today. RIP Niki

"A lot of people criticize Formula 1 as an unnecessary risk. But what would life be if we only did what was necessary?" -- Niki Lauda

Kingsrule
May 24, 2019, 05:07 PM
Vettle's Lauda tribute helmet looks awesome......

puroagave
September 29, 2019, 09:39 PM
the only interest I have in watching the horsey cars from fiat is Leclerc. I predict he's going to show vettel a clean set of heels more often than not. Im also looking forward to the wheel banging between Max and Charles--one could hope. I'll keep my championship prediction to myself until the Chinese or azerbaijan gp.

Its been slow around here so here goes...I don't often quote myself but how can I resist (gloating?) who can ignore the fact LeClerc out qualified Vettel TEN TIMES in a row. Clearly, Leclerc is the faster driver (at least over a single lap).

The horsey cars have found speed the later part of this season which is a pleasant surprise, maybe we'll have some real on-track drama before the season is up. Ham will be WC this year, no doubt about that.

the ONLY voice that matters in F1 re post race debriefs: Peter Windsor. If you don't know who he is look him up...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo3HeSrLcik

Jim Smith
September 29, 2019, 10:59 PM
It has been slow.

And the races are boring. The top 3 or 4 after 5-10 laps are still at the top at the finish line.

LeClerc & Verstappen could bring it back - at least make it interesting.

CPP
September 30, 2019, 11:17 AM
The races are almost predictable. Boring,

puroagave
November 4, 2019, 09:30 PM
No love for Ham? the year is effectively over with a few races left, both drivers and constructors championships have been decided...and please don't post to this thread if you're one of the F1 is "boring" or "predictable" crowd. We heard you. Sheesh :rolleyes:

Nico did a great job of extracting the awesome atmosphere of an F1 weekend...the production quality of his channel keeps improving, like, exponentially:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu2U4wnQm7Q

Sean
November 4, 2019, 09:51 PM
I always enjoy the COTA track; onboard video is always fun but especially here, for me.

The finish with Bottas and Ham was exciting this year. I was pleasantly surprised Maxís Red Bull put up as much of a fight up front as he did.

In a general note, Iím really hopeful the 2021 regs increase the competitiveness both in the standings and within each race. Itís disappointing the car weight went up again. Small, and light cars that can be wheel-to-wheel is a solid recipe formula for fun racing. Will Ham claim his 7th before the regulation overhaul? It certainly looks plausible, barring any reliability issues next year. Bottas canít consistently hang with him, as it stands now.


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Kingsrule
November 5, 2019, 10:38 AM
Nico vids very nice

Can't help but have the feeling Hamilton could have won the race but it was contrived for Botas to win but who really knows......

Ritmo
November 5, 2019, 11:13 AM
Lewis is a special talent driving the best car on the grid for a team that has proven to be superior at innovation, reliability and strategy.

I thought Michael Schumacher records would last for a long time. Lewis is quickly moving to surpass 7 world titles and 91 GP wins.

Lastly, for the last 25 years, I have been watching F1 and attending some races. My favorite team has been Ferrari. I had high expectations for this year and, while this year’s car has been better, Vettel is not extracting the best out of the car, reliability has not been perfect and team strategy has been lacking. The one pleasing surprise, LeClerc.

And, yes, nice video by Nico.

Kingsrule
November 5, 2019, 07:36 PM
OK lets really get to it:

Nico is a douche and lucked out into his title. He knew it and didn't return. A lucky opportunist.....

Schumacher was a dirty driver with no elan at all. An arrogant prick. Fuck him....

Ferrari...they constantly make dumb decisions. Drivers, managers, principles... If they didn't have the veto vote they would be nowhere. They do have an opportunity with LeClerc. But I say he's screwed by all the red baggage

Hamilton..a true sportsman. If he wasn't on top right now F1 would be like Indy Cars. Like who cares........