High-end Munich (á la Perfect sense | Stockholm)

[Perfect Sense]

Here it goes...

I will be doing daily updates to our Facebook feed as well: https://www.facebook.com/PerfectSenseAudioMatters

Best. / Marcus

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[Perfect Sense]

The brand new Gryphon Diablo 300 shows a lot of promise, replacing the current Diablo who's been one of the most successful integrated amplifiers on this level worldwide for over a decade. The new Diablo 300 comes with an optional DAC and Phono stage.

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[Shadowfax]

Great pics, looking forward to the updates. Thanks!

[Perfect Sense]

The friendly people of PS Audio shows of their latest pride and joy - the giant killer BHK Stereo amplifier. The preamp is an early prototype scheduled 1-2 years ahead.

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[Mike]

Would love to hear your thoughts on gear that you get to hear at the show.

Thanks for the great pictures. Are those the Sonus Faber Amati Futura's in the new black?

[Golucid]

Mike, maybe now I am beginning to understand why you cycle through equipment. After looking at these photos, I want a refund on all my equipment.

[Perfect Sense]

Would love to hear your thoughts on gear that you get to hear at the show.

Thanks for the great pictures. Are those the Sonus Faber Amati Futura's in the new black?

I will come back to listening impressions after the show when I've got the complete picture and a more relaxed mind after a couple of intense days down here.

And yes - these are the Futuras in black looking magnificent in person. The late mr. Serblin might turn in his grave though...

[mauidan]

Great pictures!

Did PS Audio have the BHK plugged into the P10?

[Perfect Sense]

Mike, maybe now I am beginning to understand why you cycle through equipment. After looking at these photos, I want a refund on all my equipment.


Great pictures!

Did PS Audio have the BHK plugged into the P10?

Thank you :)

Yes - PS Audio used the DirectStream DAC into the new BHK Signature Stereo power amp through the P10 power conditioner together with the Magnepans.

[Perfect Sense]

A nightmare to photograph, but a true joy to experience. The Wilson Benesch / CH Precision room is one of the most impressive at the show. Neither words nor photos can do the level of engineering and finishing of these magnificent products the justice they deserve.

Wilson Benesch was debuting their R1 rack series. I have to tell you that nothing comes close in relation to engineering, build quality and finish. I'm saying that with the deepest of respect for Stillpoints, SRA and HRS.

CH Precision has completed their C1-series with the new P1 phono stage, which looks as promising as everything else from this cutting edge company.

Both these companies are backed up by the nicest and most supportive people in the business by the way.

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[Mike]

Mike, maybe now I am beginning to understand why you cycle through equipment. After looking at these photos, I want a refund on all my equipment.

David, you have wonderful gear....some of the best looking too! Don't doubt it for a second. However, I would encourage you to attend the shows if nothing else for the camaraderie. RMAF is a blast...hanging out...visiting rooms....going for dinner with a bunch of the guys from Audioshark, etc.

[Jerome W]

Hello Marcus,

I did not know that you were on AS. I am Jerome who bought your Nagra MSA.
Nice pics of Munich. Thanks !


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[Perfect Sense]

Hello Marcus,

I did not know that you were on AS. I am Jerome who bought your Nagra MSA.
Nice pics of Munich. Thanks !



Ahh... Good to "see" you :) I hope you're enjoying your beautiful Nagra!

[socfan12]

Marcus, great photos! Thanks for sharing!

Anything stand out to you thus far, good or bad?

[Jerome W]

Ahh... Good to "see" you :) I hope you're enjoying your beautiful Nagra!

Oh yes I love it on my Harbeth 40.1.
My Shindo amps are in an other league but the Nagra has its own personality and sounds amazing.
Did you listen to the new Classic 120 ?


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[Zero]

Man, those Sonus Fabers are downright lickable.

[Ritmo]

Very nice pictures and coverage Marcus!

[Mike]

Man, those Sonus Fabers are downright lickable.

Amen.

[annapolis Raider]

Hyperon, quick question..... (shot in the dark)... you didn't happen to ask them how they were using the Trinnov Amethyst in the CH Precision system??

[nicoludio]

Hyperion, great photos :thumbup:

You mentioned that you saw the renderings for the new Wilson Benesch floorstanders in the Geometry series. Do you know if they will replace the ACT C60, and was there any indicative price?

The Gryphon Diablo 300 looks amazing too!

Cheers, and enjoy the rest of your Munich visit!

[Audioseduction]

Excelent photography work!

[Perfect Sense]

Absolare accompanied by Rockport Technologies has belonged to the strongest shining stars during the Munich show during recent years, with numerous "Best in Show" awards from leading reviewers worldwide. This year, Absolare debuts both their new monoblock (push-pull, 85W/8Ohm), but also a new two piece phono preamp that has been under development for several years. Cables (Echole) and resonance management (Stabilian) is also the fruit of Kerem Kucukaslan's solid work.

The result is a musical experience that breathes realism with a rare sense of naturalness. A wonderful contrast to the surprisingly large proportion of sterile and uninvolving systems at the show.

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[Perfect Sense]

Excelent photography work!

Thanks George - appreciate it!

/ Marcus

[Perfect Sense]

Very nice pictures and coverage Marcus!

Thanks Mike!

/ Marcus

[Perfect Sense]

Oh yes I love it on my Harbeth 40.1.
My Shindo amps are in an other league but the Nagra has its own personality and sounds amazing.
Did you listen to the new Classic 120 ?

Sounds great Jerome!

I only listened to the new (protoype) monos as part of a full Nagra system and Wilson Alexia speakers. Sounds (and looks) promising - no doubt!

[a.wayne]

Absolare accompanied by Rockport Technologies has belonged to the strongest shining stars during the Munich show during recent years, with numerous "Best in Show" awards from leading reviewers worldwide. This year, Absolare debuts both their new monoblock (push-pull, 85W/8Ohm), but also a new two piece phono preamp that has been under development for several years. Cables (Echole) and resonance management (Stabilian) is also the fruit of Kerem Kucukaslan's solid work.

The result is a musical experience that breathes realism with a rare sense of naturalness. A wonderful contrast to the surprisingly large proportion of sterile and uninvolving systems at the show.

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I do really like the designs used by Rockport, they seem to do a nice job, The Absolare amp is gorgeous. Have you seen the VTL amplfiers, the look is new to me, a new model? Luke is out in full force for sure .......




Regards.

[Perfect Sense]

I do really like the designs used by Rockport, they seem to do a nice job, The Absolare amp is gorgeous. Have you seen the VTL amplfiers, the look is new to me, a new model? Luke is out in full force for sure .......

Regards.

The finish, look and feel of the Absolares are one of a kind. I haven't seen any new VTL amplifiers at the show...

[Perfect Sense]

Hyperon, quick question..... (shot in the dark)... you didn't happen to ask them how they were using the Trinnov Amethyst in the CH Precision system??

I believe they only used the room correction of the Trinnov. I haven't got any details or particulars I'm afraid...

[Perfect Sense]

Hyperion, great photos :thumbup:

You mentioned that you saw the renderings for the new Wilson Benesch floorstanders in the Geometry series. Do you know if they will replace the ACT C60, and was there any indicative price?

The Gryphon Diablo 300 looks amazing too!

Cheers, and enjoy the rest of your Munich visit!

I can't tell you more about the new floorstander at this point I'm afraid... That said, it will be very reasonably priced. I'm predicting great success with this new model.

[nicoludio]

Thanks. Luke did say that the press release would come out in June so we'll have to wait. Your initial thoughts are quite encouraging though.

[Perfect Sense]

Thanks. Luke did say that the press release would come out in June so we'll have to wait. Your initial thoughts are quite encouraging though.

Good things comes to those who...:) The new floorstander sure looks amazing at a proposed price point that really surprised me!

[Perfect Sense]

Boenicke is one of the smaller and most interesting European (Swiss) speaker manufacturers during recent years. What Sven (Boenicke) creates with his massive CNC-milled wooden cabinets is special. These are small speakers with a soundstage much larger than expected, which partnered with great dynamics and a very natural tonality creates a lifelike and very engaging experience!


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[Ritmo]

Interesting design. Wood work looks terrific.

[Mike]

Hyperion - I am loving your wonderful pictures and really enjoying your thoughts and feedback. Wonderful job!

Like others, I'm definitely looking at going to Munich next year.

[Bodhi]

Interesting design. Wood work looks terrific.It's a shame some kid stuck corks in the woofers though..:D

[Perfect Sense]

Kaiser Acoustics unveiled a maximized version of their amazing Kawero Classic speakers over the weekend with external crossovers. Together with four mono amplifiers from Swedish Engstrom & Engstrom (The Lars) and D / A conversion from Total DAC, they created one of the shows most talked about, seductive and touching experiences!


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[kzhtoo]

Boenicke is one of the smaller and most interesting European (Swiss) speaker manufacturers during recent years. What Sven (Boenicke) creates with his massive CNC-milled wooden cabinets is special. These are small speakers with a soundstage much larger than expected, which partnered with great dynamics and a very natural tonality creates a lifelike and very engaging experience!


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Any chance to get some info on the rack, Hyperion? Looks exactly like something I'm looking for.

Beautiful photography, BTW!

[Perfect Sense]

Any chance to get some info on the rack, Hyperion? Looks exactly like something I'm looking for.

Beautiful photography, BTW!

Here you go: Boenicke Swing Racks ? stereodesk (http://stereodesk.com/products/boenicke-swing-racks)

It's a very clever (floating) solution which is also used in a similar way for the W8 stands.

[wisnon]

A nightmare to photograph, but a true joy to experience. The Wilson Benesch / CH Precision room is one of the most impressive at the show. Neither words nor photos can do the level of engineering and finishing of these magnificent products the justice they deserve.

Wilson Benesch was debuting their R1 rack series. I have to tell you that nothing comes close in relation to engineering, build quality and finish. I'm saying that with the deepest of respect for Stillpoints, SRA and HRS.

CH Precision has completed their C1-series with the new P1 phono stage, which looks as promising as everything else from this cutting edge company.

Both these companies are backed up by the nicest and most supportive people in the business by the way.




Totally agree. CH stuff is gorgeous.

[Audiophon]

Would love to hear your thoughts on gear that you get to hear at the show.

Thanks for the great pictures. Are those the Sonus Faber Amati Futura's in the new black?

Hi Mike,

not sure you already received an answer. Yes they are, and they sounded great in every aspect: huge soundstage, sweet presentation with good bass and liquid mids. I like those speakers!

[wisnon]

Hyperion - I am loving your wonderful pictures and really enjoying your thoughts and feedback. Wonderful job!

Like others, I'm definitely looking at going to Munich next year.
Me too. So bummed I missed it this year....

[Perfect Sense]

Stenheim, CH precision and Zensati made a mutual effort during the show, hiding in one of the more secret rooms housed inside one of the major exhibition halls. Dynamics, scale and attack was prominent in the largest presentation to date from Stenheim debuting their Reference Statement speaker system.


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[Mike]

Beautiful! Thanks for sharing!

Looking forward to more of your thoughts and comments on what you heard (good) and what you heard (not so good).

[Perfect Sense]

Beautiful! Thanks for sharing!

Looking forward to more of your thoughts and comments on what you heard (good) and what you heard (not so good).

You're most welcome!

Well, I do focus on the rooms and systems that stood out to me - one way or the other. Also, I did skip some rooms with the camera. The Kondo Audio Note/Living Voice room is one of a kind - repeatedly year after year. I'm leaving that one out as it's becoming tiring to report the same thing every year ;), but also that price and size leaves it outside most minds and budgets.

[Perfect Sense]

Mark Levinson gave a very trustworthy presentation during the show along with Revel and JBL in a room that was well attended over the weekend. Premiered at the show was the new 536 monos, which was demonstrated side by side with the new integrated amplifier 585 - which was a popular discussion topic in the corridor outside.


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[Perfect Sense]

TW Acustic's amazing turntable Black Knight was showing off at the top of the pedestal in a room shared with Cessaros horn speakers. The unique electronics - including the monos- are custom made by Ypsilon for a customer with very specific requirements.


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[wisnon]

Hyperion, any feedback on Geoff Armstron's room with the cutting edge Computer audio front end (with Regen device on USB), Lampi B7, AudioPax amps and AvantGarde speakers? Did you hear the front end with and without HQ Player set to realtime priority? I am hearing great things…
Any of your gorgeous pictures will be welcome.

[Perfect Sense]

Hyperion, any feedback on Geoff Armstron's room with the cutting edge Computer audio front end (with Regen device on USB), Lampi B7, AudioPax amps and AvantGuarge speakers? Did you hear the front end with and without HQ Player set to realtime priority? I am hearing great things…
Any of your gorgeous pictures will be welcome.

I'm sorry to say that I didn't visit that room. Wizard did though: http://audioshark.org/other-shows-139/munich-show-2015-a-6918-page17.html#.VVxlEtPtmko

[Perfect Sense]

AMG follows up the success with the top model Viella with the little brother called Giro, showing here with the AMG tonearm 9W. Build quality, precision and finish of the highest German order.

At the tip of the arm sits an optical (!) cartridge from DS audio, which we will surely hear more about:http://www.ds-audio-w.biz/


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[Perfect Sense]

Raidho has in a relatively short time managed to establish themselves as one of the most innovative manufacturers on an obviously very competitive market. The Danish company offers a full set of models in three series (X-C-D) who all share the qualities that we have learned to associate with Raidho - HiFi & Music in absolute union.


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[Mike]

Kaiser Acoustics unveiled a maximized version of their amazing Kawero Classic speakers over the weekend with external crossovers. Together with four mono amplifiers from Swedish Engstrom & Engstrom (The Lars) and D / A conversion from Total DAC, they created one of the shows most talked about, seductive and touching experiences!


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I'm very interested in more comments on this room. The new external crossovers are supposed to be a nice sonic improvement. Reviews on this speaker are stellar: SoundStage! Ultra | SoundStageUltra.com (UltraAudio.com) | Unconventional Success: Kaiser Kawero! Classic Loudspeakers (http://www.ultraaudio.com/index.php/twbas-menu/429-unconventional-success-kaiser-kawero-classic-loudspeakersf)

[Perfect Sense]

I'm very interested in more comments on this room. The new external crossovers are supposed to be a nice sonic improvement. Reviews on this speaker are stellar: SoundStage! Ultra | SoundStageUltra.com (UltraAudio.com) | Unconventional Success: Kaiser Kawero! Classic Loudspeakers (http://www.ultraaudio.com/index.php/twbas-menu/429-unconventional-success-kaiser-kawero-classic-loudspeakersf)

What would you like to know more specifically? I can start out by saying that this is my personal favourite speaker after having experienced quite a few of the usual suspects in my own well known environments and systems for the last couple of years. Add to that the compactness and world class finish (with a lot of options). It's also easy to drive.

/ Marcus

[Mike]

What would you like to know more specifically? I can start out by saying that this is my personal favourite speaker after having experienced quite a few of the usual suspects in my own well known environments and systems for the last couple of years. Add to that the compactness and finish (with a lot of options). It's also easy to drive.

/ Marcus

How is the tweeter? Smooth? Clean? Bright? Edgy? How would your describe its sonic attributes (musical? Clinical?). Is this a speaker that would be problematic in some rooms (due to bass)?

I love that it's very efficient and the external crossover option is outstanding and beautifully packaged, not to mention the plethora of gorgeous finish options.

[Gene]

Thank you for all the fine pictures...the gear is truly breathtaking...

[Mike]

Hi Gene - nice to see you. I LOVE your Avatar!!

[Perfect Sense]

How is the tweeter? Smooth? Clean? Bright? Edgy? How would your describe its sonic attributes (musical? Clinical?). Is this a speaker that would be problematic in some rooms (due to bass)?

I love that it's very efficient and the external crossover option is outstanding and beautifully packaged, not to mention the plethora of gorgeous finish options.

The (custom) RAAL ribbon tweeter is extremely natural sounding (sweet, smooth and organic) and never, ever bright or edgy - far from it. This tweeter is also used by Nola btw (another favourite speaker manufacturer of mine). The Kaiser's definitely belongs in the "musical" category being polar opposites in most aspects to Magico for example (sorry fans :). The bass woofer and configuration is optimized by Kaiser upon order in relation to the specific room characteristics of the client. It can also be changed and modified at a later time if/when moving the system to another room.

[Perfect Sense]

Thank you for all the fine pictures...the gear is truly breathtaking...

My pleasure Gene - glad you like 'em :)

[Mike]

The (custom) RAAL ribbon tweeter is extremely natural sounding (sweet, smooth and organic) and never, ever bright or edgy - far from it. This tweeter is also used by Nola btw (another favourite speaker manufacturer of mine). The Kaiser's definitely belongs in the "musical" category being polar opposites in most aspects to Magico for example (sorry fans :). The bass woofer and configuration is optimized by Kaiser upon order in relation to the specific room characteristics of the client. It can also be changed and modified at a later time if/when moving the system to another room.

Thank you. How would you compare them to Gauder, Zellaton and Verity?

[Perfect Sense]

Thank you. How would you compare them to Gauder, Zellaton and Verity?

I haven't listened enough to Gauder to have a clear opinion. I do consider Gauder to represent a rather different ideal though. The ceramic drivers will give you some specific characteristics after all.

Zellaton's are excellent performers as well based on the experience from the recent Munich shows. Truly world class. Zellaton's in general are a bit harder to drive though, which might leave out most tube amps. A part of the characteristics of the Kaiser Classic at the recent Munich show is due to the upstream electronics after all, being tube based to a high degree. Zellaton is most certainly one of the very best speakers on the market for the typical solid state fan searching for the most natural presentation possible without loosing a high degree of definition, control and bass capabilities.

Verity are wonderfully musical speakers. I'm not sure if they can compete on this rather elevated level though in relation to the current competition... I did LOVE the Parsifal Anniversary/Reyimo presentation during the show though (at a lower price point). Just wonderful.

[Bodhi]

The Kaiser's definitely belongs in the "musical" category being polar opposites in most aspects to Magico for example.I can't agree with this clearly biased statement. Comments like this are misleading at best and a disservice to anyone considering Magico speakers, much like the inane "left brain" comments made by some other members.

[Perfect Sense]

Everything is relative and personal in the end, but I'm sure most people would agree regarding the claimed differences in between Magico and Kaiser, especially after having experienced the Magico and Kaiser rooms during the recent Munich show.

Vitus is a great match with Magico btw.

[a.wayne]

A pity some discussions get philes bent out of shape over subjective opinions, especially where no Malice is intended, I'm sure the Alloy guys could hear the vibrations on every box speaker at the show.. Then again , Saying a speaker is unmusical is pretty subjective and applies to uno, I mean it's not like hearing speaker overload and excessive port chuffing ..


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I will now duck under the desk ......... :shooting:

[Bodhi]

Everything is relative and personal in the end, but I'm sure most people would agree regarding the claimed differences in between Magico and Kaiser, especially after having experienced the Magico and Kaiser rooms during the recent Munich show.

Vitus is a great match with Magico btw.Fair comments Hyperion & agree re: Magico/Vitus. I agree with Myles comments that you haven't heard Magico speakers until you've heard them properly dialled in with a good source such as an R2R in a well sorted room. Magico has a long break in period & are sensitive to upstream gear and should be properly coupled to the room. For example, I've heard the S3's suck in a treated room which was too small for them, but sound amazing in a more suitable room with VA gear. I'm just suggesting you should not be so effusive in your comments.

Cheers.

[a.wayne]

Couldn't this be said and applied to all speakers, good or bad, how can anyone say they have heard or give their subjective opinion on any hi-fi gear if such standards are to be applied.



Regards..

[Marconi-B65]

The (custom) RAAL ribbon tweeter is extremely natural sounding (sweet, smooth and organic) and never, ever bright or edgy - far from it. This tweeter is also used by Nola btw (another favourite speaker manufacturer of mine). The Kaiser's definitely belongs in the "musical" category being polar opposites in most aspects to Magico for example (sorry fans :). The bass woofer and configuration is optimized by Kaiser upon order in relation to the specific room characteristics of the client. It can also be changed and modified at a later time if/when moving the system to another room.

Hi all,

I completly agree. Magico sound was not on par for what the represent in the industry. In Chicago the sound of Q7 was nothing special.

Check out mono and stereo magazine, they say Magico failed again. Q7 ok for show conditions but S7 was out of phase.


I need to hear this Kaiser speakers soon.

Best regards

Michael

[Perfect Sense]

Fair comments Hyperion & agree re: Magico/Vitus. I agree with Myles comments that you haven't heard Magico speakers until you've heard them properly dialled in with a good source such as an R2R in a well sorted room. Magico has a long break in period & are sensitive to upstream gear and should be properly coupled to the room. For example, I've heard the S3's suck in a treated room which was too small for them, but sound amazing in a more suitable room with VA gear. I'm just suggesting you should not be so effusive in your comments.

Cheers.

I only did mention Magico in relation to Kaiser as a case in point. These are speakers not having very much in common, coming from two rather different companies after all. One uses aluminium for cabinet, bracing etc, the other one tankwood (an incredibly rigid, tough and well-damped type of beech ply) for cabinet (which explains the weight of 99 kg - about 220 lbs a piece for the Classic speaker).

I used to carry Magico, and I do know what they can do when properly setup and matched with the right electronics. I wasn't planning to comment on the Magico rooms as I've tried to focus on the rooms and systems that did impress me the most among the ones I managed to cover during the largest Munich show ever!

[socfan12]

Everything is relative and personal in the end, but I'm sure most people would agree regarding the claimed differences in between Magico and Kaiser, especially after having experienced the Magico and Kaiser rooms during the recent Munich show.

Vitus is a great match with Magico btw.


Marcus, first thank you for the pictures and commentary on an event I hope to attend one day. Great job, thank you!

Second, as you and I have discussed before, I do agree with your categorization of Magico vs. Kaiser. I've heard both speakers at the same venue, same electronics. Kaiser is a beautiful speaker that has a rich organic quality to the music. Magico can and does sound analytical (a tendency to precision and accuracy) compared to the Kaiser. But having said that, my preference is still Magico for its overall performance package. With the right electronics (Vitus and Pass seem to be a great pairing), they can be simply stunning...

[joeinid]

Michael,

Welcome to the forum, thank you for joining.


Hi all,

I completly agree. Magico sound was not on par for what the represent in the industry. In Chicago the sound of Q7 was nothing special.

Check out mono and stereo magazine, they say Magico failed again. Q7 ok for show conditions but S7 was out of phase.


I need to hear this Kaiser speakers soon.

Best regards

Michael

[Bodhi]

I only did mention Magico in relation to Kaiser as a case in point. These are speakers not having very much in common, coming from two rather different companies after all. One uses aluminium for cabinet, bracing etc, the other one tankwood (an incredibly rigid, tough and well-damped type of beech ply) for cabinet (which explains the weight of 99 kg - about 220 lbs a piece for the Classic speaker).

I used to carry Magico, and I do know what they can do when properly setup and matched with the right electronics. I wasn't planning to comment on the Magico rooms as I've tried to focus on the rooms and systems that did impress me the most among the ones I managed to cover during the largest Munich show ever!

Hyperion, I don't know why you're so surprised? :huh: You were always going to get a negative reaction/backlash with a comment like this...


The Kaiser's definitely belongs in the "musical" category being polar opposites in most aspects to Magico for example (sorry fans :))

[Perfect Sense]

Hyperion, I don't know why you're so surprised? :huh: You were always going to get a negative reaction/backlash with a comment like this...

Did I say or imply that I was surprised to get your reaction. I'm not :)

I believe we would need to start out by defining our personal definition of "musical" as a start to be able to discuss the individual qualities of these speaker brands if it's going to beneficial.

Anyway, I believe this is slightly of topic where I suggest we'll leave it at that.

[a.wayne]

Hyperion , I would like to hear your definition of musical , when is something considered musical to you...




Regards

[Bodhi]

Did I say or imply that I was surprised to get your reaction. I'm not :)...I suggest we'll leave it at that.You're right, this is where the conversation ends..

[Jerome W]

Just a side note...
panzerholz or "tank wood" used in the cabinet of the Kaiser speaker is the Lignofol used by Pro Audio Bono for its anti vibration feet. The acoustics damping of this material is just incredible.
I would be very curious to hear a speaker built in a Lignofol cabinet.

[Myles B. Astor]

Couldn't this be said and applied to all speakers, good or bad, how can anyone say they have heard or give their subjective opinion on any hi-fi gear if such standards are to be applied.





Regards..

That unfortunately is the problem defined. Shows are the worst forum to evaluate anything.

[ashandger]

Hello Marcus, many thanks for the great photos. Do you have any info on the larger models Kaiser are meant to be working on? Also, do you carry Lars amps and have you had a chance to hear them and new Monica pre in other systems yet? Would be very interested in hearing your thoughts on these amps. Thanks. Ash

[Perfect Sense]

Hello Marcus, many thanks for the great photos. Do you have any info on the larger models Kaiser are meant to be working on? Also, do you carry Lars amps and have you had a chance to hear them and new Monica pre in other systems yet? Would be very interested in hearing your thoughts on these amps. Thanks. Ash

First of all, sorry for the late reply - I didn't notice this until just now.

Kaiser are indeed working on a new SOTA speaker to be launched early next year. That's all I can say on the subject at the moment I'm afraid...:)

I don't carry Engström & Enström (The Lars/Monica). My focus is Absolare on this most elevated level which has obvious and proven synergy with Kaiser.

[Perfect Sense]

Crystal Cable makes speakers that are candy for the eyes and a caress for the soul :). The smallest monitor Minissimo was introduced in an upgraded Diamond version (new tweeter + internal cabling from the Absolute Dream series) along with a matching subwoofer (CCDB ) which can either be placed freely in the room or being used as a "stand" for the monitors in the series.


"One of my Five Most Significant Exhibits" according to Jonathan Valin/TAS:
http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/munich-high-end-2015-loudspeakers/ (http://www.theabsolutesound.com/.../munich-high-end-2015-lou.../)

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[ashandger]

First of all, sorry for the late reply - I didn't notice this until just now.

Kaiser are indeed working on a new SOTA speaker to be launched early next year. That's all I can say on the subject at the moment I'm afraid...:)

I don't carry Engström & Enström (The Lars/Monica). My focus is Absolare on this most elevated level which has obvious and proven synergy with Kaiser.

Many thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated and no worries at all about late reply. Look forward to the new SOTA speaker from Kaiser. Next time my wife and I are in Stockholm will drop into your showroom. Many thanks.

[Perfect Sense]

Many thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated and no worries at all about late reply. Look forward to the new SOTA speaker from Kaiser. Next time my wife and I are in Stockholm will drop into your showroom. Many thanks.

You're most welcome. My door is always open.

[FlexibleAudio]

Did anyone have the opportunity to hear the new Kuzma 4Point 14 inch arm at the show? Any impressions?

[FlexibleAudio]

A pity some discussions get philes bent out of shape over subjective opinions, especially where no Malice is intended, I'm sure the Alloy guys could hear the vibrations on every box speaker at the show.. Then again , Saying a speaker is unmusical is pretty subjective and applies to uno, I mean it's not like hearing speaker overload and excessive port chuffing ..


:)


I will now duck under the desk ......... :shooting:

A more benign comment may have been to say the speaker was "un-Magico." Most readers, be they Magico haters, lovers or agnostics, would have understood the point.

[Bodhi]

Hi all,

I completly agree. Magico sound was not on par for what the represent in the industry. In Chicago the sound of Q7 was nothing special.

Check out mono and stereo magazine, they say Magico failed again. Q7 ok for show conditions but S7 was out of phase.

Best regards

Michael
Interesting Michael. Well you might be interested in this comment posted in TAS...


Mathias Ruud van der Meel (http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/munich-high-end-2015-loudspeakers/#comment-2047891737) • 2 days ago (http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/munich-high-end-2015-loudspeakers/#comment-2048096316) Just because someone with a negative agenda mumble some nonsense about some “phase” problem, does not mean you have to repeat it. The guy from Mono Stereo went out of his way to trash Magico, I just happen to know why, and sound quality had nothing to do with it, so don't believe everything you read. I actually thought that the S7 sounded better than the Q7, and I was not alone.
Very good show, and very nice report.

[a.wayne]

You're most welcome. My door is always open.

Great to hear , :)


I must have missed your response on your definition of musical , what makes a loudspeaker "musical" or not ..?



Regards

[Perfect Sense]

Wrapping it up - finally!

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