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Mike
October 10, 2016, 09:46 PM
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JDLaudio
October 10, 2016, 09:56 PM
Are those yours ??

Mike
October 10, 2016, 10:00 PM
Are those yours ??

Yes.

Lowest noise floor I ever heard in my horn/SET system. So low it had me double checking everything was turned on.


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MDP
October 11, 2016, 07:13 AM
Awesome!!

still-one
October 11, 2016, 07:28 AM
Yes.

Lowest noise floor I ever heard in my horn/SET system. So low it had me double checking everything was turned on.


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My Denali was the easiest purchase decision I have made in some time.

BlueFox
October 11, 2016, 07:16 PM
Glad to see some of you are getting on the Shunyata train. You don't need to spend big bucks for great cables and power conditioners. :)

Mike
October 11, 2016, 07:58 PM
Day 2: The Sound of Silence. The Denali's not only deliver black backgrounds, but there is something else going on which is related: I'm hearing more into the recordings and noticing natural nuances like guitar and vocal decay that weren't there before.

Horn/SET lovers would not believe how quiet the Denali/Sigma cables made the system.


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RedSectorA
October 11, 2016, 08:45 PM
Horn/SET lovers would not believe how quiet the Denali/Sigma cables made the system.


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All systems become way quieter with Shunyata's current crop of conditioners and PC's, period! :D

the professor
October 11, 2016, 10:37 PM
Can't wait till you try them on your other systems Mike.

La Dolce Vita
October 12, 2016, 10:42 AM
:-)

hurwizle
October 12, 2016, 12:42 PM
Mike,

If you don't mind me asking, what was your previous power solution that you are changing from?

Mike
October 12, 2016, 12:43 PM
Mike,

If you don't mind me asking, what was your previous power solution that you are changing from?

In this system? APC S20. I'm also using the Niagra 7000 in my other system now. Both are excellent. In my SET system, the Denali is lower noise floor.


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Milk_vanilla
October 13, 2016, 06:55 AM
Does Denali isolate the noise between the ports within each zone? E.g. There's 3 zones on 6000 model, each zone consist of 2 ports.

Mike
October 13, 2016, 07:35 AM
Does Denali isolate the noise between the ports within each zone? E.g. There's 3 zones on 6000 model, each zone consist of 2 ports.

Yes.

Mike
October 14, 2016, 11:28 AM
The Denali's and Sigma PC's are breaking in nicely. Gave a quick listen again this morning. Caelin hit it out of the park with these babies. Wonderful performance. I hear no "strain" or constraint in the sound at all. Effortless, flowing music through black black backgrounds. :audiophile:

tunes
October 14, 2016, 02:48 PM
I'm a triton sigma user as well. Shunyata has done an incredible job with these.


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pessoa00
October 14, 2016, 09:17 PM
The Denali's and Sigma PC's are breaking in nicely. Gave a quick listen again this morning. Caelin hit it out of the park with these babies. Wonderful performance. I hear no "strain" or constraint in the sound at all. Effortless, flowing music through black black backgrounds. :audiophile:
I'm using a PS Audio P10 to power all my system as it seemed to be the best solution to solve the significant voltage swings I have in my home (something afaik no Shunyata product addresses) and am very happy with the result. How would you compare the 2 products? Do you think they'd work well together? (I know Shunyata advises against). Thanks

Mike
October 14, 2016, 09:24 PM
I don't think the Denali is going to control voltage swings. I would also not go from the Denali into to P10. The AQ Niagra 7000 might be an option, but as they say, if it ain't broke...

You may get more by adding some Shunyata Sigma PC's.


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arthurs
October 15, 2016, 07:38 PM
Does 6000 S or T come with power cord or do you have to get that separately?

Mike
October 15, 2016, 07:40 PM
Does 6000 S or T come with power cord or do you have to get that separately?

You need a 20amp IEC PC. It does not come with one. I recommend a Shunyata 20amp IEC PC. Alpha or go for Sigma.


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La Dolce Vita
October 15, 2016, 11:34 PM
Does 6000 S or T come with power cord or do you have to get that separately?
It does not ship with one unless you request one specifically. They'll include a stock 20 amp iec cable for a nominal fee.

if you want to stay all Shunyata, buy a Sigma power cord. Remember though any 15 amp power cord should work fine with a 15 amp to 20 amp iec adapter. I prefer to use a Nordost Valhalla 1 with Denali.

Hope this helps.

Mike
October 15, 2016, 11:43 PM
Shunyata does not recommend the 20 amp IEC to 15 amp IEC adapter as a long term solution.

Jack
October 16, 2016, 12:24 AM
arthurs

If you don't want to spend another $2500+ on a power cord for the Denali take a look at this one and see if it fits your needs.

http://audiosensibility.com/blog/products-2/power-cables-2/#!/Statement-Power-Cable/p/11472112/category=2595837

With "audiophile" approved Furtech connectors for less than a fourth of the price after you take the discount and figure in the exchange rate. Or look for an equivalent Neotech PC. Another more than viable option is to contact Pete at Triode Wire Lab. His pricing will be in between the two but a highly respected product without the associated costs of the "big boys."

arthurs
October 16, 2016, 01:05 AM
Those using Denali, are you running amps through it or straight to wall?

cmarin
October 16, 2016, 01:13 AM
Those using Denali, are you running amps through it or straight to wall?

Running amps through Denali.


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Mike
October 16, 2016, 07:06 AM
Those using Denali, are you running amps through it or straight to wall?

I have two Denali 2000T's - one dedicated for each amp.

Dguitarnut
October 16, 2016, 08:19 AM
I have two Denali 2000T's - one dedicated for each amp.
I hate you fancy pants! lol
No, just envious!

Mike
October 16, 2016, 08:21 AM
I hate you fancy pants! lol
No, just envious!

Ha! Overkill perhaps, but I blame my Power OCD.

La Dolce Vita
October 16, 2016, 08:37 AM
Shunyata does not recommend the 20 amp IEC to 15 amp IEC adapter as a long term solution.

Of course not! You'd take a perfectly good cable and end up with a 15 amp termination that would not work! Not what I said...

The Sigma line is great and outperforms the Alpha. It's a great choice. The Alpha is a good choice if budget constraints do not allow for a new power cord that costs half as much as the conditioner itself.

BMW recommends only Castrol oil for my car's engine but I have been using Mobile1 for the last 50K Miles or 4-5 years. Drives great! [emoji6]


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Mike
October 16, 2016, 08:59 AM
Of course not! You'd take a perfectly good cable and end up with a 15 amp termination that would not work! Not what I said...

The Sigma line is great and outperforms the Alpha. It's a great choice. The Alpha is a good choice if budget constraints do not allow for a new power cord that costs half as much as the conditioner itself.

BMW recommends only Castrol oil for my car's engine but I have been using Mobile1 for the last 50K Miles or 4-5 years. Drives great! [emoji6]


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You said, "Remember though any 15 amp power cord should work fine with a 15 amp to 20 amp iec adapter."

I had a long conversation with Shunyata about this since I already have huge Rubbermaid containers full of 15amp IEC power cords. They strongly recommend against it as a long term solution noting that the adapter does negatively affect the sound. Fine in the short term, but not a viable long term solution for those looking to optimize the power foundation in their system.

P.S. I prefer Mobile 1 as well.

La Dolce Vita
October 16, 2016, 09:36 AM
You said, "Remember though any 15 amp power cord should work fine with a 15 amp to 20 amp iec adapter."

I had a long conversation with Shunyata about this since I already have huge Rubbermaid containers full of 15amp IEC power cords. They strongly recommend against it as a long term solution noting that the adapter does negatively affect the sound. Fine in the short term, but not a viable long term solution for those looking to optimize the power foundation in their system.

P.S. I prefer Mobile 1 as well.

Lol... yes I did indeed but you were speaking of a different adapter, one that converts a 20 amp to 15 amp termination which we both agree would not be applicable here.

Thanks for the insight. By the way there are different quality adapters. Some are cheap in price and quality and others are very premium. The one I am using is a $200 adapter, pure silver termination cryogenically treated I believe. It weights a ton and is a thing of beauty. Made by VooDoo cables for anyone interested.

I have tried all of the following... 1) Shunyata Sigma, 2) Shunyata Alpha, 3) Ansuz Diamond and 4) Nordost Valhalla. I'm sticking with the choice that sounds best to my ears and expect we each will do the same.

Thanks for the info Mike. Best wishes for a great Sunday!


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La Dolce Vita
October 16, 2016, 09:39 AM
I misspoke. It's not pure silver but here are the specs:

http://voodoocable.net/product/premium-silver-15-amp-to-20-amp-iec-adapter/


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the professor
October 16, 2016, 11:56 AM
I have used these also, but when you compare using the adapter to not using an adapter, its amazing how much difference it actually makes.


I misspoke. It's not pure silver but here are the specs:

http://voodoocable.net/product/premium-silver-15-amp-to-20-amp-iec-adapter/


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La Dolce Vita
October 16, 2016, 12:16 PM
I have used these also, but when you compare using the adapter to not using an adapter, its amazing how much difference it actually makes.

Well Jock I guess you and Mike have much better hearing than I do. Fair enough. If I could actually hear a difference I'd just send my power cord to Nordost and have it reterminated. Hell I may do that anyway...


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CGabriel
October 16, 2016, 12:44 PM
You said, "Remember though any 15 amp power cord should work fine with a 15 amp to 20 amp iec adapter."

I had a long conversation with Shunyata about this since I already have huge Rubbermaid containers full of 15amp IEC power cords. They strongly recommend against it as a long term solution noting that the adapter does negatively affect the sound. Fine in the short term, but not a viable long term solution for those looking to optimize the power foundation in their system.

P.S. I prefer Mobile 1 as well.

ALL Shunyata Research power distributors and power conditioners are rated at a full 20-Amp current capability and should NOT be used with a power cord rated less than that. The conductors in the power cord should be at least 12 gauge or better. Remember that wire gauge is rated inversely. As the wire gauge number gets smaller the actual size of the wire is larger. So, a 10 gauge wire is larger than a 12 gauge wire. For our European friends wires are rated in a more straight forward manner using the diameter of the wire in milli-meters or mm squared.

Also the DENALI Series uses an IEC C19 type inlet that is rated at 20-Amps. You cannot connect a standard C13-C15 type power cord into it. It is physically different. We use this type of connector because of the higher current rating and the fact that the contacts have a lower contact impedance and therefore better performance. The connector also has a much better grip on the power cords than the conventionally used type inlet.

RE: Power Cords
Although some people are using our reference power cable (Sigma) it works just fine with less expensive cables in our line up. The VENOM-HC is a great power cord with 20-Amp capability, 10 gauge conductors and superior molded connectors and plugs. It retails for less than US$300. If you want and can afford it - the best price to performance choice would be the ALPHA-HC at $1250.

La Dolce Vita
October 16, 2016, 12:47 PM
ALL Shunyata Research power distributors and power conditioners are rated at a full 20-Amp current capability and should NOT be used with a power cord rated less than that. The conductors in the power cord should be at least 12 gauge or better. Remember that wire gauge is rated inversely. As the wire gauge number gets smaller the actual size of the wire is larger. So, a 10 gauge wire is larger than a 12 gauge wire. For our European friends wires are rated in a more straight forward manner using the diameter of the wire in milli-meters or mm squared.

Also the DENALI Series uses an IEC C19 type inlet that is rated at 20-Amps. You cannot connect a standard C13-C15 type power cord into it. It is physically different. We use this type of connector because of the higher current rating and the fact that the contacts have a lower contact impedance and therefore better performance. The connector also has a much better grip on the power cords than the conventionally used type inlet.

RE: Power Cords
Although some people are using our reference power cable (Sigma) it works just fine with less expensive cables in our line up. The VENOM-HC is a great power cord with 20-Amp capability, 10 gauge conductors and superior molded connectors and plugs. It retails for less than US$300. If you want and can afford it - the best price to performance choice would be the ALPHA-HC at $1250.

Thank you Caelin.


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Mike
October 16, 2016, 12:48 PM
Thanks Caelin. In your opinion, would it not be advisable to use a 20 amp IEC to 15 amp IEC adapter even in the short term? Thanks. Just trying to clarify as Grant had told me "only in the short term" - as in, "a few days while you wait for your proper 20amp IEC cables to arrive."


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La Dolce Vita
October 16, 2016, 01:31 PM
Thanks Caelin. In your opinion, would it not be advisable to use a 20 amp IEC to 15 amp IEC adapter even in the short term? Thanks. Just trying to clarify as Grant had told me "only in the short term" - as in, "a few days while you wait for your proper 20amp IEC cables to arrive."


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Relevant question for those who may elect to order or purchase another brand's 20 amp power cord. Barring some unforeseen production issue or stock issue, one can generally receive the Shunyata 20 amp power cord at the same time they receive the Denali unit so if going all Shunyata there's probably little need for the adapter. Another option is to request the stock 20 amp power cord with the Denali.


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CGabriel
October 16, 2016, 02:09 PM
Thanks Caelin. In your opinion, would it not be advisable to use a 20 amp IEC to 15 amp IEC adapter even in the short term? Thanks. Just trying to clarify as Grant had told me "only in the short term" - as in, "a few days while you wait for your proper 20amp IEC cables to arrive."
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Every inline contact junction affects DTCD (dynamic transient current delivery) which is a major factor in power cord and power conditioner performance. We go to incredible (obsessive compulsive) lengths to maximize DTCD performance. We manufacturer our own wire and connectors. The outlets have contacts that are made from solid copper - not brass or bronze. Use use cryogenically treated IEC inlets. We even make our own custom wiring terminals inside the DENALI. Our Alpha and Sigma power cords are made with our own connectors that are constructed of solid copper base metals. So any adapter that you may use inline will be detrimental to the performance.

However, there are practical concerns when doing a trial of one of the power conditioners. Some people have their own expensive power cord and want to use it. Fine, we understand - just understand that if you use an adapter, you are not getting the full potential of the power conditioner. You can use an adapter for a trial but we do not recommend it for long term use of the power conditioner.

There are other more practical concerns about adapters. We make adapters to convert C15 to C19 and C19 to C15 and they are very high quality. However, just by the nature of IEC inlets and connectors - they are just not that great for contact integrity. It is far too easy for the connector to become loose or perhaps it was not fully inserted. If a contact is not fully engaged, the components will work OK but there will be a build up of heat at the contact junctions. This thermal noise can affect the sonic performance and in some cases can become a hazard.

Entertainment systems have high powered amplifiers and multiple components which means that a typical system can pull as much current as a space heater. We use FLIR and thermal probes in the development of our products and you would be surprised how hot a properly functioning connector can become when under a typical load.

If you want to use an adapter to a single component - I don't have a huge problem with it even though it will degrade potential performance compared to a direct connection with a high performance power cord. However, I DO NOT recommend using any adapter between the power cord and a high capacity power distributor or conditioner.

La Dolce Vita
October 16, 2016, 02:14 PM
Every inline contact junction affects DTCD (dynamic transient current delivery) which is a major factor in power cord and power conditioner performance. We go to incredible (obsessive compulsive) lengths to maximize DTCD performance. We manufacturer our own wire and connectors. The outlets have contacts that are made from solid copper - not brass or bronze. Use use cryogenically treated IEC inlets. We even make our own custom wiring terminals inside the DENALI. Our Alpha and Sigma power cords are made with our own connectors that are constructed of solid copper base metals. So any adapter that you may use inline will be detrimental to the performance.

However, there are practical concerns when doing a trial of one of the power conditioners. Some people have their own expensive power cord and want to use it. Fine, we understand - just understand that if you use an adapter, you are not getting the full potential of the power conditioner. You can use an adapter for a trial but we do not recommend it for long term use of the power conditioner.

There are other more practical concerns about adapters. We make adapters to convert C15 to C19 and C19 to C15 and they are very high quality. However, just by the nature of IEC inlets and connectors - they are just not that great for contact integrity. It is far too easy for the connector to become loose or perhaps it was not fully inserted. If a contact is not fully engaged, the components will work OK but there will be a build up of heat at the contact junctions. This thermal noise can affect the sonic performance and in some cases can become a hazard.

Entertainment systems have high powered amplifiers and multiple components which means that a typical system can pull as much current as a space heater. We use FLIR and thermal probes in the development of our products and you would be surprised how hot a properly functioning connector can become when under a typical load.

If you want to use an adapter to a single component - I don't have a huge problem with it even though it will degrade potential performance compared to a direct connection with a high performance power cord. However, I DO NOT recommend using any adapter between the power cord and a high capacity power distributor or conditioner.

Thank you Caelin. I will remove the power cord and use the Sigma.


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drabbish
October 22, 2016, 07:43 PM
ok so if someone has a standard 15amp outlet then they should not use a denali with it? I am a little confused now

CGabriel
October 22, 2016, 07:57 PM
All Denalis have a 20 amp "continuous" current rating. This is a maximum rating. Of course you can connect them to any circuit with a lower rating.

We use an IEC C19 inlet because it is rated at 20A @ 125V. This enables those that have 20A dedicated lines installed to use the full potential of the line.

What you can't do is use a standard power cord with a C15 or C13 connector because it won't physically fit into a C19 inlet. This is why some people are asking about adapters.

Does that help?

drabbish
October 22, 2016, 10:25 PM
ok thats what i thought, last question. if you use a 15a sigma to the denali from the wall does it make any sense to use a 20a from the denali to the components or the amp? my assumption is that both the 15 and 20 use the same gauge internally and that the connector plug is the only difference.

CGabriel
October 22, 2016, 10:44 PM
ok thats what i thought, last question. if you use a 15a sigma to the denali from the wall does it make any sense to use a 20a from the denali to the components or the amp? my assumption is that both the 15 and 20 use the same gauge internally and that the connector plug is the only difference.

The SIGMA Analog & Digital models use 8 gauge wiring internally while the SIGMA-HC has 6 gauge. The internal gauge of the wire is the same regardless of the connectors used.

bthomas9
October 23, 2016, 07:14 PM
Caelin, thanks for all the useful input on the Denali. I have a question about the HC zone with QR/BB of the 6 outlet models. If one needed only to use one of these outlets for a stereo amp, but needed 5 other outlets, is there any benefit or negative affect by using this outlet? If so, which type of equipment would be benefitted or hindered the most using it...DAC, Preamp, phono stage etc. Thanks


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GrantS
October 23, 2016, 08:23 PM
Caelin, thanks for all the useful input on the Denali. I have a question about the HC zone with QR/BB of the 6 outlet models. If one needed only to use one of these outlets for a stereo amp, but needed 5 other outlets, is there any benefit or negative affect by using this outlet? If so, which type of equipment would be benefitted or hindered the most using it...DAC, Preamp, phono stage etc. Thanks


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Hello,

There would be no compromise. We have run stereo Constellation and Luxman amps through the filtered outlets at shows and in homes that have multiple amps (5 channel)--with no audible drawback. Also, there are systems that have one stereo amp and 5 line-level components and sources where a DAC or Analog pre-amp goes through the high-current outlets by necessity.

Denali technology has no hard rules, in the same way that a Sigma Digital may differ from a Sigma Analog. Yes, there are small differences but in the end each model of power cord and each outlet on a Denali is a Swiss Army Knife of sorts in terms of application. Denali models maximize noise isolation and through-put of instantaneous current (DTCD).

To answer your question, I would run the stereo amp through one-half of the HC (high-current) duplex and the main pre-amp through the other half for best performance. If you are willing to experiment, you could try the phono stage as well if that is your main source but in general, the main pre-amp is likely best in that other HC spot.

I don't wish to be ambiguous, but I have tested these units every way imaginable, as have our close industry partners, reviewers, studios and medical. I believe you would have to go out of your way to make an error in application, even if you misapplied a Sigma Digital for a Sigma Analog, or plugged an amp into a filtered Denali outlet. The differences are there, but subtle. I would be happy to go over your specific system application if you care to call or e-mail. All of our products are essentially universal in performance but possess small specialities in terms of filtering, DTCD and parts-engineering. There are no big mistakes that can be made, only refinements toward an ideal.

Please let me know if I can be of any further help!

Best regards,

Grant

CGabriel
October 23, 2016, 08:30 PM
Caelin, thanks for all the useful input on the Denali. I have a question about the HC zone with QR/BB of the 6 outlet models. If one needed only to use one of these outlets for a stereo amp, but needed 5 other outlets, is there any benefit or negative affect by using this outlet? If so, which type of equipment would be benefitted or hindered the most using it...DAC, Preamp, phono stage etc. Thanks


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The HC zone was designed for very high current devices and those that may not require higher levels of noise isolation - like amplifiers. Zones 1 & 2 have very high levels of isolation which means they are ideal for noisy components: DACs, transports, turntable motors, etc. Preamps with integrated digital devices usually work best in the Z1, Z2 outlets also.

Simple preamps probably sound best in the HC outlet if it is not taken by another component.

FWIW the Z1 and Z2 are NOT low current outlets. They are rated at a full 15 amps of current unlike many competitors where the highly filtered outlets are only rated at 5 amps of current. Many people are using the Z1, Z2 outlets with certain amplifiers saying that they sound best through these outlets. We have general guidelines but a bit of experimentation with your own equipment is helpful.

Mike
October 23, 2016, 10:56 PM
Grant/Caelin - thanks for the responses. I plugged my Studer R2R and Doshi Tape Preamp into the Denali 6000 this weekend. Helped tremendously with noise floor and so much more. I found the Tape Preamp sounded best in one of the spare HC inputs on my 6000. I'm using two 2000's dedicated for my amps. I've NEVER had a lower noise floor than I do now. The Denali passes the 300b SET/horn speaker test with flying colors. [emoji573][emoji322][emoji324][emoji573][emoji322][emoji324]


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Mike
October 24, 2016, 12:21 AM
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cmarin
October 24, 2016, 01:40 AM
Hong Kong:

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Mike
October 25, 2016, 12:25 PM
Any Denali owners have additional feedback? Notice any changes after a week? Two?

My Denali and Sigma PC's are singing sweetly! LOVE how quiet the Denali has made my SET/horn system.

La Dolce Vita
October 25, 2016, 12:29 PM
Any Denali owners have additional feedback? Notice any changes after a week? Two?

My Denali and Sigma PC's are singing sweetly! LOVE how quiet the Denali has made my SET/horn system.

Great question Mike. No, not really. To me the beauty of the Denali is that it ships essentially burned in already and sounds great from Day 1.

Sounds/performs as wonderful today as it did Day 1...


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Dguitarnut
October 25, 2016, 12:40 PM
I am waiting for someone :rolleyes: that purchased the S model to sell it to me really cheap so he can get that Tower unit that he wanted all along! ..hmmmmmmmm......hopefully within driving distance.......of St Petersburg.....lol.

Mike
October 25, 2016, 12:42 PM
I am waiting for someone :rolleyes: that purchased the S model to sell it to me really cheap so he can get that Tower unit that he wanted all along! ..hmmmmmmmm......hopefully within driving distance.......of St Petersburg.....lol.

Ha! Once you hear it in your system, there will be no going back.


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RedSectorA
October 25, 2016, 01:45 PM
Great question Mike. No, not really. To me the beauty of the Denali is that it ships essentially burned in already and sounds great from Day 1.

Sounds/performs as wonderful today as it did Day 1...


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Same for me!

Ritmo
October 25, 2016, 10:04 PM
Very nice Mike!

Mike
October 25, 2016, 10:28 PM
Very nice Mike!

You can borrow mine Mike and try it. You'll be ordering one!


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bthomas9
October 31, 2016, 01:24 PM
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The audio fairy visited today. I've been a good boy apparently!!

Thanks Mike for the help with the decision and super quick turnaround! Top notch service again!!


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Dpod4
November 1, 2016, 05:17 PM
I love how Shunyata also paid attention to form and function. The fact the tower unit comes with a built in isolation base and internal isolation. The fact it stands upright so to save horizontal floor space and easier cable management. The fact it has the doohickeys that hold the heavy plugs from falling out (that to me was a "thank you for addressing my current biggest pet peeve with three prong connectors"). Love that it is passive. Love that it does not limit current. I assume 100 percent class A amps will work well with the QR/BB?


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drabbish
November 1, 2016, 10:21 PM
mike you running sigma's on all parts or just amps?

Mike
November 1, 2016, 10:22 PM
mike you running sigma's on all parts or just amps?

All parts. I have two 2000T's - one for each amp and one 6000T for preamp and sources. Overkill, but why not? [emoji6]


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BlueFox
November 1, 2016, 11:51 PM
All parts. I have two 2000T's - one for each amp and one 6000T for preamp and sources. Overkill, but why not? [emoji6]

Not overkill at all. That is what you need for optimum performance. Don't forget that this setup also requires two power cords for each amp.

I suggested to Shunyata for a new product to have a single power cable with the Cyclop/Denali technology built in. Sort of like MIT cables and their network box.

Dpod4
November 17, 2016, 11:34 PM
Thanks to Mike I took delivery of a 6000T. Was able listen today for 2 hours and compare to other conditioners. There is most definitely a difference. Much greater articulation of bass. Starts and stops are much cleaner and tight. First time I understand the phrase "more space between notes". Always read that and wondered what it meant. Now I know. More precise placement of instruments and voices. Bass foundation more present so provides an anchor for other things to have their place and time. So all that was experienced just introducing the 6000T into my amps (two Luxman 800a). Compared to my isotek which retails for $16,000, the shunyata didn't have the musical flow but allowed me to hear into the recording and allowed details to pour out that provided ambiance and context to the music.

Then I replaced my $15,000 Jena labs sequoia (which beat out my previous audience Flagship conditioner). So amps being driven by isotek super Titan and sources driven by Denali. Wow / stage depth tripled. Stage breadth spread out across the entire room left to right. I almost cried when I heard this because my whole life I have wished for a significant "outside my speaker boundaries" presence. Not just a few notes but an entire presence. The Denali did this. It arrested my attention and I literally gasped when I heard it. A lateral landscape from left wall to right wall. Right there I knew my Magnepan 20.7s were finally showing me how much they could do. The one question I was wondering about was whether the Denali was removing some midrange magic compared to my more expensive reference conditioners. Cables were standardized (Cardas Beyond Clear). Then I realized they weren't removing any magic from the midrange but took so much noise and smearing out of bass and treble that my attention was focused on what was improved.

So I hit Mr Mike up for a 2000T. Will then know what 100 % Denali does.

Kudos to Shunyata. On par and in many ways exceeding gear costing 4-5x the price.


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Mike
November 18, 2016, 10:19 AM
Darrin - I'm so pleased you're enjoying the Denali. Mine made a substantial improvement in my system. It's going no where.

Dguitarnut
November 18, 2016, 10:36 AM
NOT TRUE! Your Denali's have wheels. It's been to St Pete I know for sure.
I'm gonna have to move. I can't afford to live this close to Mike.
I ordered a Denali 6000s and Alpha power cable. :S

Mike
November 18, 2016, 10:39 AM
I'm gonna have to move. I can't afford to live this close to Mike.
I ordered a Denali 6000s and Alpha power cable. :S

Ha! Wait until the store opens and we unbox more goodies to try.


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still-one
November 18, 2016, 11:23 AM
The Denali 6000T might be one of the most universally praised hi-fi components discussed on audiophile websites. I don't remember anyone having anything bad to say about the units. I am sure there are those whose position is to oppose anything between amps and the wall but other than that not much. I sure am pleased.

Dpod4
November 18, 2016, 02:38 PM
The Denali 6000T might be one of the most universally praised hi-fi components discussed on audiophile websites. I don't remember anyone having anything bad to say about the units. I am sure there are those whose position is to oppose anything between amps and the wall but other than that not much. I sure am pleased.

Yes I think the word of mouth from audio experts (many here whom I respect) peaked my curiosity. I have to say Shunyata is under-charging for these relative to competition. Maybe to a point that some are dismissing it as top of mountain reference grade.


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BlueFox
November 18, 2016, 10:52 PM
The Denali 6000T might be one of the most universally praised hi-fi components discussed on audiophile websites. I don't remember anyone having anything bad to say about the units. I am sure there are those whose position is to oppose anything between amps and the wall but other than that not much. I sure am pleased.

I have said it multiple times, and will again. Having a Cyclop v2 on each amp between wall and amp made a big, positive improvement.

BlueFox
November 18, 2016, 10:55 PM
Yes I think the word of mouth from audio experts (many here whom I respect) peaked my curiosity. I have to say Shunyata is under-charging for these relative to competition. Maybe to a point that some are dismissing it as top of mountain reference grade.


The engineer in me loves the science and technical explanations of their products. The consumer in me loves their business philosophy of not screwing the consumer versus how some of the competition operates.

Dpod4
November 18, 2016, 11:55 PM
The engineer in me loves the science and technical explanations of their products. The consumer in me loves their business philosophy of not screwing the consumer versus how some of the competition operates.

The designer/architect in me loves the problem solving / user interface (e.g. Cable holders).


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Dguitarnut
November 29, 2016, 07:17 PM
I got my Denali 6000S today along with an Alpha HC cable and an SRZ1 outlet.
I noticed it was shipped to SunCoast Audio business address! Am I your first customer shipped to the official store Mike? Wanna know if it's a collectors item now.
It sounds awesome.....very black background now......makes me believe I don't need that Dave you loaned me............of course can I imagine now how THAT would sound now!
It never ends!.......my condo in St Pete is for sale .......I'm moving to Alaska

Mike
November 29, 2016, 07:27 PM
Larry - Suncoast Audio Alaska is opening next week. You can run, but you can't hide. When the store opens in a few weeks, it will be even more dangerous. Everything will be on display. I will load up your SUV. You're doomed!

Congrats on the Denali. :congrats:

Mark Jones
November 29, 2016, 09:00 PM
I have a 6000T - WOW - Loving it.

Dpod4
November 30, 2016, 12:57 AM
Just received my 2000T to drive my mono amps so I can use the 6000T for source components. Thanks Mike!!


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Dpod4
November 30, 2016, 12:58 AM
PS, I must live close to Shunyata because I placed an order with Mike and UPS delivered the next day. Or Suncoast Audio owns a fleet of audio drones!


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Mike
November 30, 2016, 12:59 AM
PS, I must live close to Shunyata because I placed an order with Mike and UPS delivered the next day. Or Suncoast Audio owns a fleet of audio drones!


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We're everywhere and psychic too. Just ask Larry.


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bzr
November 30, 2016, 03:34 AM
We're everywhere and psychic too. Just ask Larry.


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Is that code for nuts? :D

the professor
November 30, 2016, 12:08 PM
Congrats guys :woot:

Dguitarnut
November 30, 2016, 12:59 PM
YEP, it's the code alright.....Mike had that "psychic look" on his face when I picked up the Denali and he said......anything else I can give ya to try out Larry?......or maybe that was the look I gave back to him! Lol

bzr
November 30, 2016, 04:57 PM
YEP, it's the code alright.....Mike had that "psychic look" on his face when I picked up the Denali and he said......anything else I can give ya to try out Larry?......or maybe that was the look I gave back to him! Lol

Seen it too... Here's Mike after hockey...

http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g338/_bzr_/1200_zpsfhgyxzai.jpg (http://s1096.photobucket.com/user/_bzr_/media/1200_zpsfhgyxzai.jpg.html)

Mike
November 30, 2016, 05:11 PM
Seen it too... Here's Mike after hockey...

http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g338/_bzr_/1200_zpsfhgyxzai.jpg (http://s1096.photobucket.com/user/_bzr_/media/1200_zpsfhgyxzai.jpg.html)

Ha! Here is me playing last week at Amalie Arena (where the Tampa Bay Lightning play). This was a program called "Rink of Dreams" sponsored by the Tampa Bay Lightning NHL team, where we are NHL players for the day (only much older, fatter, slower, etc.)

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161130/a7202acd2a6e3ceec66f3a400a0a7bda.jpg


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the professor
November 30, 2016, 05:36 PM
Looks like fun Mike!!!!!

Justin
December 1, 2016, 11:32 AM
My Denali 6000T arrives Saturday. Replaces a Shunyata PS8. Should be a heck of an upgrade!


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bzr
December 1, 2016, 03:47 PM
My Denali 6000T arrives Saturday. Replaces a Shunyata PS8. Should be a heck of an upgrade!


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Geez... talk about going off topic :D :D :D