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Thread: Top Tier Amps
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August 21, 2021, 07:35 AM #301
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I just went through the whole thread and honestly don’t know why.
At first glance it’s a “expensive is best” tier ranking but admittedly that got water down to more realistic criteria .
If I’m being honest having gone through the many suggestions on all tiers it’s been fun to be remember that I had a bunch of the manufactures through here.
One I don’t see , and likely brand recognition plays into this is Gamut. I have had their limited edition integrated and for a short period their monos. If sonics were the only criteria they would certainly be up on the list.... excellent amplifiers.
However the roller coaster stopped in its tracks when I heard a stereo amp from a niche inside of a niche builder at a friends house . I contacted a dealer in Canada and asked if he could get the St Louis builder to custom make a set of monos for me
The hidden genius of Wilson Shen from Clayton Audio built me a spectacular set of his M200’s and I have the amps that he has now determined is the lasted greatest iteration of that series
From a guy that has had and spent multiple times the money on amps I can say they are the best sounding most dynamic Claas A amps I have had through here....
They won’t qualify for this list no doubt but , after 40 years of amp roller coaster I have never been happier
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August 21, 2021, 07:44 AM #302
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Didn’t the chief designer/founder for Gamut leave and join Raidho and then go on to Gryphon?
Glad you’re enjoying your Clayton Audio. The challenge is, if you ask 100 audiophiles about Clayton Audio, I’m pretty sure 99 have never heard of it, and that one might be thinking Spatial Audio (Clayton Shaw). So, it’s a little difficult to rank and that’s the point of the list, but I’m glad you like it and I’m sure it’s good.My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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August 21, 2021, 08:10 AM #303
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You are correct Mike, I don’t actually know if Gamut is still doing anything other than speakers since the designer left... dam good amps though
And.... agreed on all points with Clayton.
They are obscure beyond a doubt . What has been great is that I didn’t feel the need to sell anything to help fund the purchase as they are (relatively) in expensive in quality amplification terms.
They are the only amp i have had in here that I literally stopped listening too or for
If that makes any sense what so ever
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August 21, 2021, 08:38 AM #304
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Makes total sense and as I’ve said many times, I myself have Tier 3 stuff. Heck, after spending so much time on the NAIM groups, I’m thinking more like Tier 4. LOL.
I remember talking to another dealer years ago and when GAMUT came up, he just looked at me and said “the stupidest name in audio. The name kills them.” It always stuck with me. But agreed, they made some really good stuff. Many times, they were best of show.
Maybe we need a list: “where are they now?” So many companies just fall off the radar. It doesn’t mean they don’t make great stuff, they do. But they just fall off the radar. Ayre, CJ, Krell to name a few. Would make for an interesting conversation. DynAudio for example was riding high about 10 years ago. Now? I never hear a customer mention them as even an option. And they DO build great speakers and build their own drivers. What causes the fall from grace? I see Revel starting down that path as there is no real replacement (yet) for their much beloved Salon 2. Do companies get distracted? Lose their core focus? Or is it more a tribute to the companies with such incredible staying power like Pass, Shunyata, McIntosh, B&W, Focal, Magico, Wilson? These are the names that come up CONSTANTLY, among others. But I haven’t heard much about Revel, DynAudio and many others in the last few years. I would imagine it all comes down to the sheer expensive of R&D and marketing. Must be astronomical. Can’t cut corners on either.My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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August 21, 2021, 08:54 AM #305
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August 21, 2021, 11:16 AM #306
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Mike, it's funny how you mentioned Gamut and Dynaudio. Last year i blew the woofer in my 10 year old Gamut L7 speakers and it took a long time to get a replacement from Gamut, so i was loosing my mind waiting and bought a pair of Dynaudio platinum C4's. i bought these speakers based on reviews and sounded like a speaker i would love. boy was i wrong, after the first day i had the C4's i know the Gamut L7's were a better speaker. one man's smooth sounding speaker is another man's boring speaker. The C4 's just didn't do it for me, now sold. john
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August 21, 2021, 11:39 AM #307
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All drifting off topic but I had a set of the Gamut M5’s... dollar for dollar an excellent speaker .... I tried many many speakers and finally got to Acoustic Zen Crescendo II’s as an upgrade to my preference.... same story with the Zens it took some time and many trials to move from them and ended up with Arteluthe Stilettos ....
Audio is a journey for us weirdos
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August 21, 2021, 02:46 PM #308
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*When* I win the lotto, I'd buy the big Boulders.
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December 27, 2021, 01:07 PM #309
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AudioNote? I'm not familiar with their amps but I have an AN DAC and it bested everything I tried next to it, until I retired it.
I might argue that Ayre could move up a tier. While I havent heard more than 1 or 2 of the Tier 1 amps, I've heard several of the Tier 2, including some a/b against my MX-R Twenty's and thought the Ayre better to my ear. Certainly weren't inexpensive. That said, you certainly have far more experience with these things than I ever will!Main System
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December 27, 2021, 01:28 PM #310
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After living with the Block Audio amps and preamp for almost a year and directly compared to Soulution, Boulder, Gryphon, etc., I’ve added them to Tier 1.
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December 27, 2021, 03:50 PM #311
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December 27, 2021, 04:18 PM #312
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market perception is close to zero, how could these jump into tier1?
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December 27, 2021, 04:31 PM #313
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December 27, 2021, 04:36 PM #314
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My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
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December 27, 2021, 05:13 PM #315
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block audio is basicly unknown in europe, there is no shop who sells it, no reviews either, not present at shows, nobody talks about.
i do not doubt they sound excellent. the question is whether the criterias of the tread have changed to performance.
changing criterias has no name
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December 27, 2021, 05:20 PM #316
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I don’t agree. Block is catching on. I was watching the comments on Jay’s latest video and a bunch of folks thought his amps were Block! So much for “no one” knowing the name.
Maybe YOU don’t know about them!
By the way, you’re free to start your own list and have folks debate.
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"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
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December 27, 2021, 07:11 PM #317
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the hidden brand
block audio amplifier – Google Suche
only block itself, soundrebels, suncoast and high-end palace
try ANY other brand and you can see the difference
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December 27, 2021, 07:15 PM #318
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just as an example
pilium – Google Suche
pictures, dealers, systems, talk......evidence of marketperception
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December 27, 2021, 07:20 PM #319
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My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
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December 27, 2021, 07:42 PM #320
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no, i have not heard them. i would really love to. i love amplifiers and any new and good manufacture is more than welcome. block audio is welcome and i wish them the best only.
my issue is that you are saying block audio is among the worlds 10 most percepted high end amps.
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December 27, 2021, 07:51 PM #321
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They’ve been around longer than many on that list. You should hear them. They have the slam of Soulution, the bass of gryphon and the midrange liquidity of tubes. Class A beauty. Oh, and $60k/PAIR for the SE monos beating $180k amps IMO. One listen and you’ll know. Build quality out of this world. Love their matching stands too!
When I asked my Euro dealer/reviewer friends if they were T+A level or CH/Soulution/Dart level - they all said top tier! I totally agree.
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December 27, 2021, 08:12 PM #322
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well, looking at them leaves no doubt! beautiful clean sota design like ch for half the price.
the cooling ribs are my only concern. wife and me got hurt a few times by mark levinsons...
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December 27, 2021, 08:15 PM #323
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I never heard of Block audio, they look like beasts. In terms of popularity, if they're not reviewed in the big 2 audio magazines (Stereo Review and TAS) then they usually aren't mainstream high end IMO. Again, this has nothing to do with their sonic abilities or lack thereof.
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December 27, 2021, 08:19 PM #324
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This is an interesting point. Not speaking of Block, but more in general terms, I think it’s more important to have 5-10 reviews by soundstage, PTA, Enjoy The Music, PF, than one review by one of the big two. The reason? I’ve had customers say, “yah, but I can only find one review, the absolute sound review and nothing else…”
I’d rather have a plethora of reviews than just one in a big mag.
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"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
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December 27, 2021, 08:38 PM #325
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Sometimes with mainstream magazines it is somewhat of a pay to play. I haven't looked at them to see if Block Audio advertises in them but that could be part of the issue. The reviews of their products are listed at the Block Audio site - Reviews – Block Audio
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December 27, 2021, 11:05 PM #326
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I’ve heard them at Mike’s store. They are outstanding. Heard them driving a pair of Vivid G1 Spirits. Impressive to say the least.
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December 27, 2021, 11:27 PM #327
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I get it and I'm not a dealer so I don't have nearly as many data points as you. But from folks into audio that I know, many are vested in reviewers' feedback / reviews (think Fremer with analog). They could care less about other spurious lesser tier magazines.
IMO the more data the better, reviews, dealer opinions, owners' feedback and of course, best of all listening to the prospective equipment on a similar system to mine is best.4x20A circuits | Shunyata Triton + Typhon | Source 1: HDPlex HD100 PSU -> OCX clock + EtherRegen -> Paul Hynes SR4T + HDPlex HD500 PSUs -> Music PC w/JCAT XE nic, Squeezebox, Roon, Tidal / Qobuz | TotalDAC Live PSU + D1 Twelve Mk II DAC + Mk II streamer | Source 2: Acoustic Signature Ascona TT | Kuzma 4 point tonearm | Koetsu Rosewood Signature cart | Pass XP-15 phono pre | Audionet Pre G2 preamp | Audionet Max mono blocks | Vivid Audio Giya Spirits | 4 JL Audio Fathom subs | Echole ICs /SCs / Siltech King jumpers, Shunyata/Audioquest PCs / Eth. Cs | Critical Mass CS2s -> components, Isoacoustics -> speakers + subs | Adona Altair reference and Eris II racks | Fully treated and dedicated 2 channel room
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December 27, 2021, 11:30 PM #328
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My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
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December 27, 2021, 11:56 PM #329
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4x20A circuits | Shunyata Triton + Typhon | Source 1: HDPlex HD100 PSU -> OCX clock + EtherRegen -> Paul Hynes SR4T + HDPlex HD500 PSUs -> Music PC w/JCAT XE nic, Squeezebox, Roon, Tidal / Qobuz | TotalDAC Live PSU + D1 Twelve Mk II DAC + Mk II streamer | Source 2: Acoustic Signature Ascona TT | Kuzma 4 point tonearm | Koetsu Rosewood Signature cart | Pass XP-15 phono pre | Audionet Pre G2 preamp | Audionet Max mono blocks | Vivid Audio Giya Spirits | 4 JL Audio Fathom subs | Echole ICs /SCs / Siltech King jumpers, Shunyata/Audioquest PCs / Eth. Cs | Critical Mass CS2s -> components, Isoacoustics -> speakers + subs | Adona Altair reference and Eris II racks | Fully treated and dedicated 2 channel room
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December 28, 2021, 10:59 AM #330
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I bought my Vivid B1 Decades after reading Doug's review several years ago. I bet he's turned quite a few folks on to Vivid b/c of his reviews. Shoot, now I have to move from my Tier 3 amp (Hegel H30) to Tier 2...thanks guys!
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December 28, 2021, 05:06 PM #331
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“Life’s too short to listen to bad audio.”
Big rig: Brinkmann Taurus DD TT + 12.1 arm + Lyra Etna Lambda SL MC + HRS M3X2/ Cardas Clear Beyond phono/ Stillpoints LPI/ Brinkmann Edison mk2 phono + RöNT II Tube PS/ Synology NAS with Roon + HD Plex linear PSU + Shunyata HD/ AQ Vodka RJ45 + Aqvox Network Switch SE + AQ Diamond RJ45 into DAC/ Brinkmann Nyquist mk2/ Audionet Humboldt/ Cardas Clear Beyond ICs/ Kharma DB9-S 1.1 LS/ Inakustik Reference LS 4004 AIR/ Audioquest Niagara 5000/ Shunyata Alpha power (HC, Analogue, Digital)/ Finite Elemente Pagode Rack/ Stillpoints Ultra SS/ Vicoustic panels + Stillpoints Aperture II.
Small rig: Naim UnitiServe/ Curious USB/ Tidal/ Linn Klimax DS3/ Shunyata Power cable/ Pass Labs INT-60/ Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II/ HiD Diamond 8/ Harbeth 30.2 40th Anniversary/ Shunyata Venom EU7 & Venom 3 HD.
HP rig: MacBookAir/ Tidal/ Auralic Gemini 2000/ Sbooster LPSU/ Audeze LCD-2 Classic + WyWires Red/ Shunyata HD/ Shunyata Hydra 2/ Shunyata Venom.
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December 28, 2021, 05:07 PM #332
Top Tier Amps
“Life’s too short to listen to bad audio.”
Big rig: Brinkmann Taurus DD TT + 12.1 arm + Lyra Etna Lambda SL MC + HRS M3X2/ Cardas Clear Beyond phono/ Stillpoints LPI/ Brinkmann Edison mk2 phono + RöNT II Tube PS/ Synology NAS with Roon + HD Plex linear PSU + Shunyata HD/ AQ Vodka RJ45 + Aqvox Network Switch SE + AQ Diamond RJ45 into DAC/ Brinkmann Nyquist mk2/ Audionet Humboldt/ Cardas Clear Beyond ICs/ Kharma DB9-S 1.1 LS/ Inakustik Reference LS 4004 AIR/ Audioquest Niagara 5000/ Shunyata Alpha power (HC, Analogue, Digital)/ Finite Elemente Pagode Rack/ Stillpoints Ultra SS/ Vicoustic panels + Stillpoints Aperture II.
Small rig: Naim UnitiServe/ Curious USB/ Tidal/ Linn Klimax DS3/ Shunyata Power cable/ Pass Labs INT-60/ Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II/ HiD Diamond 8/ Harbeth 30.2 40th Anniversary/ Shunyata Venom EU7 & Venom 3 HD.
HP rig: MacBookAir/ Tidal/ Auralic Gemini 2000/ Sbooster LPSU/ Audeze LCD-2 Classic + WyWires Red/ Shunyata HD/ Shunyata Hydra 2/ Shunyata Venom.
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December 28, 2021, 06:14 PM #333
Top Tier Amps
My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
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December 28, 2021, 09:33 PM #334
Re: Top Tier Amps
I’ve decided I’ll now be bringing the Block Audio gear (with Vivid G1 Spirits) for Florida Audio Expo attendees to hear.
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"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
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December 29, 2021, 01:08 PM #335
Re: Top Tier Amps
Kevin
Main: VPI Aries 3/Grado Reference3, and Aurender N200 > PS Audio DS DAC. Luxman L-509Z integrated amp. Sonus Faber Elipsa SE speakers. PS Audio P10 power. Transparent Audio, Cardas and Audioquest cables.
Bar: EAT C-sharp/Hana MH, and exaSound s82 > Luxman L-595SE amp. GolderEar One.R speakers. Shunyata power, Audioquest cables.
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December 29, 2021, 01:13 PM #336
Re: Top Tier Amps
Coincident is another brand to consider adding to the list. Been around a while (yet quietly), and really sound great. They were part of one of the best sounds at the Capital Audio Fest.
Also Atma-Sphere.Kevin
Main: VPI Aries 3/Grado Reference3, and Aurender N200 > PS Audio DS DAC. Luxman L-509Z integrated amp. Sonus Faber Elipsa SE speakers. PS Audio P10 power. Transparent Audio, Cardas and Audioquest cables.
Bar: EAT C-sharp/Hana MH, and exaSound s82 > Luxman L-595SE amp. GolderEar One.R speakers. Shunyata power, Audioquest cables.
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December 29, 2021, 01:21 PM #337
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My Gear- Mains System-Pass X250 amp, BAT VK-51se preamp, Luxman DA-06 DAC, Magnepan 1.6's, Thorens TD-145 TT, Dual Martin Logan Subs, Vintage Luxman T-110 Tuner, Cables-WW Platinum 7 USB, Cardas Parsec XLR, AQ Columbia DBS 72v XLR, Belden 8402 XLR.
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December 29, 2021, 01:27 PM #338
Re: Top Tier Amps
Jim
D'Agostino Momentum M-400's MxV’s & HD Pre-amp
Wilson Alexandria X2 Series 2 speakers
Digital: dCS Vivaldi APEX DAC, Clock & Upsampler
Analog: SME 20/3 with Esoteric E-03 Phono
Transparent Opus Speaker Cable & Interconnects & Opus Power Cords
Power Cords on Digital: Shunyata
Power Conditioner - Shunyata Everest
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December 29, 2021, 03:28 PM #339
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December 29, 2021, 03:45 PM #340
Re: Top Tier Amps
My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
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December 30, 2021, 12:02 AM #341
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Re: Top Tier Amps
I have heard the Atma Sphere MA1's and the M1 preamp (which sound great by the way) but not their top of the line amps. I would put them Tier 2. Same for BAT but I have not heard their latest and greatest REX gear. You really don't hear much about both brands lately though.
I really like both as well.My Gear- Mains System-Pass X250 amp, BAT VK-51se preamp, Luxman DA-06 DAC, Magnepan 1.6's, Thorens TD-145 TT, Dual Martin Logan Subs, Vintage Luxman T-110 Tuner, Cables-WW Platinum 7 USB, Cardas Parsec XLR, AQ Columbia DBS 72v XLR, Belden 8402 XLR.
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December 30, 2021, 11:30 AM #342
Re: Top Tier Amps
Might not be possible to really answer this, but hypothetically, how do you compare a "lower-end model" from a "higher tier" manufacturer, to a higher-end model from a lower-tier manufacturer.
For instance, might we expect that the Ayre VX-r Twenty is equivalent to/better/worse than, the T+A A 200? Legit question in a way, since I'm actually considering those, but have only heard the Ayre and have no way of hearing the T+A although it's now interesting since it was rated well by @Mike and gets rave reviews.Main System
Lumin X1 > Boulder 1161 > Scansonic MB3.5 B
Headphones
Home: HiFiMan Susvara > Schiit Lyr+
Portable: Focal Radiance > AQ Dragonfly Cobalt / Chord Hugo 2
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December 30, 2021, 12:06 PM #343
Re: Top Tier Amps
It’s a very fair point and one I had to think about when I put my own amp in Tier 3, even though, it’s the 500 in the series and second from the top. I think it’s fair to say that any brand can move up or down a peg based on the model being discussed in light of the brand itself, etc.
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"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
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December 30, 2021, 12:53 PM #344
Re: Top Tier Amps
Sorry to further this threads’divergence but I heard Mike’s Block Audio mono SE amps and preamp yesterday with all Nordost cabling, an Aurender N30SA and Esoteric K1X going into a pair of Kharma Elegance DB11-S and it was one of, if not the best, sounding systems I have ever heard.
Main Equipment: Kharma Elegance dB11-S, JL Audio F113v2, Block Audio Line & Mono SE Amplification, Bricasti M21 DAC, Antipodes Kala K-50 Server, Marantz TT-42
Power: 3 x 20 Amp Lines, Shunyata Everest 8000, Sigma XC v2, Shunyata Sigma v2 NR, Block Audio Power Cords, Defender, ADDPowr Wizard
Grounding: Shunyata Altaira CGS - Alpha CGS cables
Network : Supra Cat 8+, Twin (Nenon Modified) Buffalo GS2016 Switches powered with Keces P3 LPSU,
Cables: Wireworld Platinum Starlight 8 USB, Wireworld Platinum Eclipse 8 SCs, 1M & 6M Tubulus Concentus ICs,
Other: Isoacoustics GAIA I footers on the Kharmas, GIK/Vicoustics/Stillpoint Apertures, Stillpoint Ultra SS, Furutech GTX - Gold outlets, Adona Rack
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December 30, 2021, 01:31 PM #345
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December 30, 2021, 01:53 PM #346
Re: Top Tier Amps
And also worth considering is that many times lower tier models use a different tech then higher tier models... case in point is the T+A A200. It is using the Purifier Class D tech. I think this tech is fantastic (I own the NAD C298 using the same tech), however it is completely different then previous model (I owned the T+A Amp 8 for example), and other models in their lineup. However I totally trust T+A and if they are offering it I personally believe it is worthy.
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January 2, 2022, 01:26 AM #347
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Re: Top Tier Amps
Mike,
I'm intrigued by the Block amps.
As they are Class A, do they run hot inside a cabinet, or just warm?
BarrySpeakers; Wilson Audio Alexx
Amp; D'Agostino MxV 400
Source; MSB Select II
Power: Stromtank S2500Q
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January 2, 2022, 11:26 AM #348
Re: Top Tier Amps
Kevin
Main: VPI Aries 3/Grado Reference3, and Aurender N200 > PS Audio DS DAC. Luxman L-509Z integrated amp. Sonus Faber Elipsa SE speakers. PS Audio P10 power. Transparent Audio, Cardas and Audioquest cables.
Bar: EAT C-sharp/Hana MH, and exaSound s82 > Luxman L-595SE amp. GolderEar One.R speakers. Shunyata power, Audioquest cables.
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January 2, 2022, 11:32 AM #349
Re: Top Tier Amps
Hi Barry,
They are fabulous amps and beat some costing 3 times as much in our shootouts. I would however never put them in a cabinet. They are best out in the open and best on their own amp stands.
You’re talking about $60K/pair for amps beating amps costing much more. They deliver 200 watts/channel of pure class A plus another 300 watts/channel of AB beyond the first 200 of class A. They have the slam of Soulution, bass of Gryphon and a tube midrange and top end.
They also work best with the matching preamp as it controls the amps, reads the temperature on the front display and can put them into eco mode when not in use (but staying on).
But like all class A amps, they run hot when in use.
Mike
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January 29, 2022, 02:36 PM #350
Re: Top Tier Amps
Where would Bakoon or Enleum hit your list?
Have to say I think I’m happier with the Enleum than I was with the Ayre MX-Rs or AX-5. Different system so hard to compare but the Enleum wants for nothing immediately obvious to me.Main System
Lumin X1 > Boulder 1161 > Scansonic MB3.5 B
Headphones
Home: HiFiMan Susvara > Schiit Lyr+
Portable: Focal Radiance > AQ Dragonfly Cobalt / Chord Hugo 2
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