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    Mike,

    Which Tier do you sell the most?

    Do you feel some type of customers goes with certain Tier?
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    Quote Originally Posted by puroagave View Post
    Also missing are Ypsilon, Robert Koda and Zanden. I would rank Ypsilon above Lamm All-day-long, same for Zanden. I still think Rowland belongs in tier 1, who else had multi-axis CNC machines grinding out chassis' when Jeff thought of doing it back in the day...still waiting.
    Ypsilon makes wonderful gear.

    Another topic would be: great brands that are plagued by piss poor distribution.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SimpleSimonSays View Post
    I agree with you yet I don't think neither Lexus or Infiniti will ever achieve Tier 1 status... They are still perceived Tier 2 for some reason...
    Not so Lexus is tier one with their LFA stuff and F1 , Lemans participation, Infinity less so but their Skylines and sportscars participation give them street creed too .. Honda is Tier one with engines not so much their cars, Japanese BMW , BMW makes world class Tier 1 engines , tier 2 cars at best ..


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    Quote Originally Posted by SimpleSimonSays View Post
    Mike,

    Which Tier do you sell the most?

    Do you feel some type of customers goes with certain Tier?
    You Just had to pull that gear Huh ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Ypsilon makes wonderful gear.

    Another topic would be: great brands that are plagued by piss poor distribution.


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    Re: Top Tier Amps

    Listening to a Nad Purifi amp right now on demo going straight from Lumin X1 into amp and am seriously baffled; I’m thinking it sounds clearer and cleaner and less colored than my Pass and Naim amps which cost 3x to 5x more. Perceptions vs. brand snobbery vs. performance vs. value. From a value proposition, maybe it’s the novelty of listening to something new, but I’m putting this experience in tier 1! Who is to say one amp is “better” than another when that conclusion is totally subjective by individual? This hobby can sure cause confusion - audio nervosa defined.

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    Does it have more gain than the other amps ...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimpleSimonSays View Post
    Mike,

    Which Tier do you sell the most?

    Do you feel some type of customers goes with certain Tier?
    Tier 3 hands down. Great field of high value performers.


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    I'm sorry, but Infinity is definitely tier 3 at best... I'll give Lexus tier 2, but that is begrudgingly... Mercedes-Benz is very much tier 1 ... sorry, but no Japanese (and definitely not Korean, sorry Genesis) car compares to German... all there is to it .

    PS... McIntosh has to be higher than Tier 3... please tell me which piece is more sought after used then McIntosh? ..... <sound of silence>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Myers View Post
    I'm sorry, but Infinity is definitely tier 3 at best... I'll give Lexus tier 2, but that is begrudgingly... Mercedes-Benz is very much tier 1 ... sorry, but no Japanese (and definitely not Korean, sorry Genesis) car compares to German... all there is to it .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Myers View Post
    I'm sorry, but Infinity is definitely tier 3 at best... I'll give Lexus tier 2, but that is begrudgingly... Mercedes-Benz is very much tier 1 ... sorry, but no Japanese (and definitely not Korean, sorry Genesis) car compares to German... all there is to it .

    PS... McIntosh has to be higher than Tier 3... please tell me which piece is more sought after used then McIntosh? .....
    Sought after and public perception are two different things. I’ve probably owned more Mc than most here. Love it. The new Mc sounds though are quite different and not sure I’m a big fan of it. Joe dumped his 1.25kw’s fast for this reason.

    Price and perception put it at a strong 3 (in good company).

    Do others disagree? Are you saying the audiophile public at large would take a Mc 462 over a Soulution 711, CH M1.1, Boulder 3060, etc?

    This is why this question is so hard. Parking our personal preferences at the door and looking at the market objectively is hard!

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    Re: Top Tier Amps

    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Myers View Post
    I'm sorry, but Infinity is definitely tier 3 at best... I'll give Lexus tier 2, but that is begrudgingly... Mercedes-Benz is very much tier 1 ... sorry, but no Japanese (and definitely not Korean, sorry Genesis) car compares to German... all there is to it .

    PS... McIntosh has to be higher than Tier 3... please tell me which piece is more sought after used then McIntosh? ..... <sound of silence>
    Lemme guess, you don't own a Mercedes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Ayon is one of those brands that makes a good product, but not a lot of dealers carry it likely due to the distributor. I personally don’t have a lot of experience with it, other than shows (usually with Legacy speakers). What’s your thoughts? Tier 2?


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    Quote Originally Posted by puroagave View Post
    Lemme guess, you don't own a Mercedes?
    Hehe... Hmmmm, I think it has been mentioned once or twice 😎.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Sought after and public perception are two different things. I’ve probably owned more Mc than most here. Love it. The new Mc sounds though are quite different and not sure I’m a big fan of it. Joe dumped his 1.25kw’s fast for this reason.

    Price and perception put it at a strong 3 (in good company).

    Do others disagree? Are you saying the audiophile public at large would take a Mc 462 over a Soulution 711, CH M1.1, Boulder 3060, etc?

    This is why this question is so hard. Parking our personal preferences at the door and looking at the market objectively is hard!
    All true, especially personal preferences part. I guess it would be the perspective of the audio enthusiast, but I am 100% sure Mc sells many time more amplifiers then the others mentioned, probably even combined.

    Resale is a consideration in this hobby. It was difficult and took quite some time to sell my T+A amp (Tom got a very good deal on a very nice amp). I put a McIntosh piece up and it usually sells in a day or two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Myers View Post
    I'm sorry, but Infinity is definitely tier 3 at best... I'll give Lexus tier 2, but that is begrudgingly... Mercedes-Benz is very much tier 1 ... sorry, but no Japanese (and definitely not Korean, sorry Genesis) car compares to German... all there is to it .

    PS... McIntosh has to be higher than Tier 3... please tell me which piece is more sought after used then McIntosh? ..... <sound of silence>


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    Really??

    I am surprised by this! With all the amazing high end stuff you have, I'd thought your clientele was more Tiers 1 and 2...

    I guess it is good news then!

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    Quote Originally Posted by a.wayne View Post
    Not so Lexus is tier one with their LFA stuff and F1 , Lemans participation, Infinity less so but their Skylines and sportscars participation give them street creed too .. Honda is Tier one with engines not so much their cars, Japanese BMW , BMW makes world class Tier 1 engines , tier 2 cars at best ..


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    My take is that the Audi-BMW-Mercedes Benz crowd will always look down a bit at the Lexus-Infiniti-Genesis of the world... even though the comfort level is just as high in the latter...

    The Luxman built quality is often as good/better than Tier 1 brands...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Myers View Post
    ....

    Resale may also be considered a factor. Many of these brands would be extremely hard to resell while, McIntosh, ARC, etc., sell extremely easy and for top dollar.
    I agree with Randy. Resale value might be a good way to gauge in what tier an amp fits.
    Any expensive amp that loses 90% of its value on resale should not be in a top tier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoAudio View Post
    I'll just say that my personal opinion on the audio quality of amplifiers doesn't necessarily match with the perceived amount of prestige (or price).
    Your answer begs the question as to what amps you put in the high quality category which aren’t necessarily perceived as “prestigious “?

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    Good question. I’ll have to do a comparison with a sound meter.

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    So its all about resale value not sound ..??



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    Quote Originally Posted by SimpleSimonSays View Post
    Really??

    I am surprised by this! With all the amazing high end stuff you have, I'd thought your clientele was more Tiers 1 and 2...

    I guess it is good news then!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicoff View Post
    I agree with Randy. Resale value might be a good way to gauge in what tier an amp fits.
    Any expensive amp that loses 90% of its value on resale should not be in a top tier.
    Resale is definitely an important characteristic for determining tier. Ferrari’s hold their value better than Ford’s. It’s just a fact.

    The key is, don’t get bent out of shape that your favorite amp might not be tier 1. It doesn’t mean it’s not your favorite or bloody amazing. It’s market perception. Cache’. That’s what I’m trying to flesh out and make you think in an unbiased manner!


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    I certainly would not believe resale is the only criteria, but certainly one of them. Sound quality would of course be of major Importance. But I also assume all of these are pretty darn good 😁.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Myers View Post
    I certainly would not believe resale is the only criteria, but certainly one of them. Sound quality would of course be of major Importance. But I also assume all of these are pretty darn good Top Tier Amps.
    Ah...skewing with SQ. That’s another discussion. The general consensus is that Ferrari is top tier, but how many have owned one?

    SQ is another topic. This is about perception and perception because of price. We COULD add perception because of reviews, but our members are too seasoned to fall for just any review.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Ah...skewing with SQ. That’s another discussion. The general consensus is that Ferrari is top tier, but how many have owned one?

    SQ is another topic. This is about perception and perception because of price. We COULD add perception because of reviews, but our members are too seasoned to fall for just any review.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RDSChicago View Post
    Your answer begs the question as to what amps you put in the high quality category which aren’t necessarily perceived as “prestigious “?
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    If we were factoring resale value, Mcintosh would of course be higher on this list.

    The car analogy would be , if we were factoring in reliability and resale, you can say the Japanese brands.

    That being said, audio and auto would be boring if we all owned Mcintosh and drove Toyotas.

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    So what tier would my PS Audio BHK 300 monoblocks fall under?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Audiophilehi View Post
    So what tier would my PS Audio BHK 300 monoblocks fall under?
    Where do you think they are perceived? I would say Tier 4. It’s really the Parasound JC1+ shopper. IMO. That doesn’t mean it’s not great! Just perception....


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    I would have thought Tier 3
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    I would have thought Tier 3
    That makes sense.


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    MY coffee maker is Tier 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuoppis View Post
    No, it does not
    I agree... PS Audio, in my view is over hyped decent gear. I do believe possibly tier 4. Then again, model versus brand....

    PS Audio compares with "Luxman, Sim, Pass, Naim, Classe’, Bryston, Hegel, Accuphase, ARC, Ayre, Mcintosh," hmmm, not in my book...
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    What about conrad-johnson? I think it would be on the same tier with ARC
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    Quote Originally Posted by Q3Di View Post
    What about conrad-johnson? I think it would be on the same tier with ARC
    I do not disagree... certainly in the neighborhood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuoppis View Post
    Everyone, please feel free to bargain your amp up the ladder Top Tier Amps.
    Hehe... McIntosh should be Tier 1 .... just kidding , however if PS Audio is Tier 3 then McIntosh is definitely Tier 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Myers View Post
    I agree... PS Audio, in my view is over hyped decent gear. I do not believe it belongs on the list what so ever, but possibly tier 5. Then again, model versus brand....

    PS Audio compares with "Luxman, Sim, Pass, Naim, Classe’, Bryston, Hegel, Accuphase, ARC, Ayre, Mcintosh," hmmm, not in my book...
    Randy...have you listened to the PS Audio BHK 300's? I previously owned a McIntosh MC452 and really loved the amp but I do favor The PSA 300's.

    I trust Mikes opinions as I'm sure he has listened to just about all the amps listed. I haven't had the luxury to listen to any of the amps mentioned except the MC452 so I can't offer an opinion at all. I'm sure the same goes for most.
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    Accuphase is not tier 3 anyway you look at them and being mention in the same breath as PS audio or McIntosh is a joke. The ONLY reason they get so little love here and elsewhere, is the greed of the US Importer and that's a damn shame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Audiophilehi View Post
    Randy...have you listened to the PS Audio BHK 300's? I previously owned a McIntosh MC452 and really loved the amp but I do favor The PSA 300's.

    I trust Mikes opinions as I'm sure he has listened to just about all the amps listed. I haven't had the luxury to listen to any of the amps mentioned except the MC452 so I can't offer an opinion at all. I'm sure the same goes for most.
    I have not heard that particular model however I have owned multiple PS Audio amplifiers. I am not saying model for model, I am saying brand to brand... and this is where my opinion comes from (also I grew up in the shadow of McIntosh's factory in Binghamton so I admit my opinion is tainted) . I also prefer solid state amps to tube amps... (I have had several of both; ARC, Audio Mirror, Quicksilver, etc., for tubes) and I prefer to keep tubes in my pre-amp...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gene View Post
    Accuphase is not tier 3 anyway you look at them and being mention in the same breath as PS audio or McIntosh is a joke. The ONLY reason they get so little love here and elsewhere, is the greed of the US Importer and that's a damn shame.
    That’s a fair comment about their perception. Gene, would you say Tier 2?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Audiophilehi View Post
    Randy...have you listened to the PS Audio BHK 300's? I previously owned a McIntosh MC452 and really loved the amp but I do favor The PSA 300's.

    I trust Mikes opinions as I'm sure he has listened to just about all the amps listed. I haven't had the luxury to listen to any of the amps mentioned except the MC452 so I can't offer an opinion at all. I'm sure the same goes for most.
    My only reservation about putting them in Tier 3, is I don’t know if generally they are respected in the same general sense as others in that category. I put them in 3, but I really feel they are 4. Quality control and wacky crazy business practices I think knock them down in the eyes of the general audio buying public.

    As for my own experience with the BHK300’s, let’s just say they went out of my house with a bang.


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    Ypsilon makes wonderful gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    My only reservation about putting them in Tier 3, is I don’t know if generally they are respected in the same general sense as others in that category. I put them in 3, but I really feel they are 4. Quality control and wacky crazy business practices I think knock them down in the eyes of the general audio buying public.

    As for my own experience with the BHK300’s, let’s just say they went out of my house with a bang.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Myers View Post
    I agree... PS Audio, in my view is over hyped decent gear. I do believe possibly tier 4. Then again, model versus brand....

    PS Audio compares with "Luxman, Sim, Pass, Naim, Classe’, Bryston, Hegel, Accuphase, ARC, Ayre, Mcintosh," hmmm, not in my book...
    Try and find a Vintage PS Audio 200CX ...

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    Quality control and wacky crazy business practices I think knock them down in the eyes of the general audio buying public.

    As for my own experience with the BHK300’s, let’s just say they went out of my house with a bang.


    I don't even want to relate the conversations I have had with EJ and Rick and their experiences building OEM for PS Audio.
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    Try and find a Vintage PS Audio 200CX ...
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    ... I know PS Audio have their fans and certain models are outstanding...
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