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April 8, 2020, 06:50 AM #1
Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
Any thoughts?
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April 8, 2020, 09:19 AM #2
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Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
Both have fine reputations (I have not heard either), but the Luxman can be upgraded to a mono configuration by adding a second M900u. This upgrade reportedly yields significant SQ improvements in addition to a 2X (4X?) increase in power.
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April 8, 2020, 10:01 AM #3
Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
As a former owner of the Rowland 625 (pre-S2) and currently running the Luxman M-900u I don't think there's necessarily a decisive winner in this comparison. I've also heard the 625 S2 extensively which is a significant evolutionary advance over the earlier version. Both amps are exceptional products and I think a preference is likely to come down to which is a better match to a given set of speakers as well as system synergy. I used to run Magnepan 3.7i and with them I'd give the nod to the Rowland which had greater dynamic swings and an overall effortlessness that the Luxman lacked. However I then changed to Dynaudio Contour 60 speakers and my preference shifted to the Luxman with amazing texture, harmonic integrity and overall musicality. Once you get to this level of gear I find that system matching and personal preference play a major role in determining which would be considered best.
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April 8, 2020, 11:08 AM #4
Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
Thank you very much gentlemen. I appreciate your thoughts.
I had and loved the C-900 preamp (still miss that one). I’m thinking about the M-900u for my non Avantgarde speakers. I think it’ll be a great match.
Plus the Luxman seems a little more flexible.Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
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April 8, 2020, 11:32 AM #5
Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
I should have noted that I also have the Luxman C-900u preamp, so there is likely some synergy in running matched amplification components which were designed to work optimally together.
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April 8, 2020, 11:49 AM #6
Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
I remembered that but I’m hoping that my GAT2, which is only single ended, matches well. The Rowland has only balanced inputs and I’m not crazy about adapters or some other conversion method.
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NAD C 658 streamer.
First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
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April 10, 2020, 01:49 AM #7
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Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
had the m900u on my Haileys and wasn't enough juice - considering the 625mk2 if it has gone back to the old Rowland sound.
OT- how was the SIT-3 vs XA25 on your Avantgardes?Brinkmann Bardo w/ EMT HSD-006 cart, MSB Reference DAC --> Linear Tube Audio MicroZOTL --> Ampzilla 2000, 2nd Edition --> Fyne Audio F1-12
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April 10, 2020, 07:47 AM #8
Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
Hi Keith,
Hands down, for my taste and ears, the SIT-3 is the clear winner. The XA25 was good but more typical solid state sounding than I’d like. My guess is that the XA30.8 could beat the XA25 on my AG.
The SIT-3 is absolutely wonderful. Dead quiet, sweeter and warmer, mid hall perspective with awesome vocals and piano.
The SIT-1 monos were great too but a lot more energetic. Since my room is on the smaller side for the Avantgardes, to me, they felt a little too much in my face. I love a more laid back sound like the SIT-3.
Regarding the Rowland, it’s probably one of their best sounding amps and conventional Class AB.
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First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
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April 10, 2020, 10:39 AM #9
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Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
Worth pointing out that Rowland is rumored to have a new major product just around the corner. I will post details as soon as I receive them from the factory.
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April 10, 2020, 12:18 PM #10
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Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
Synergy is everything at this level - thank you for your thoughts!
My eye has been on a set of Lamm hybrids if a set pops up, but maybe Rowland is worth a shot. At 600w into 4ohms, Rowland has the juice required and my system is fully balanced to begin with.
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April 10, 2020, 01:22 PM #11
Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
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April 10, 2020, 03:33 PM #12
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Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
Hello MEP, my apologies for not responding to an earlier post of yours... The silence was not intentional.
Unfortunately I am not a Rowland brand spokesperson. On the other hand, I freely confess of being an enthusiast of many Rowland products, and I keep up with matters Rowland.
I know I had hinted in the past that I would work on a full review of the Rowland M535 bridged... M535 bridged are incredible for the price, and I posted informally about that amp, but a more formalized long-form review did not happen... I happen to suffer from Procrastinitis Furiosa, and the review fell victim to the malaise
Or are you talking about some other product eval that failed to materialize?
My current scribbling about the Daemon superintegrated is my first longish Rowland eval since I scribbled about M925 years ago.
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April 10, 2020, 04:04 PM #13
Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
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April 10, 2020, 04:19 PM #14
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Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
Hi Mep, now I understand... Sorry for the confusion.
My Daemon thread is the actual review in the form of a progressive diary/journal...
My original intention was to update the top post with each new journal-like entry.... Unfortunately, this turned out to be impossible, because there does not seem to be a way for me to edit/update the original post... As a result, updates to my Daemon adventure can be found only in subsequent posts of the same thread.
Saluti,
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April 10, 2020, 08:53 PM #15
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Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
Guido's been a well-known, passionate Rowland owner for years, nothing more. An asset to the audiophile community and likely has much better ears than we do
I've given constructive criticism at times over the years and he always has a totally legitimate response. Says a lot about his character.Brinkmann Bardo w/ EMT HSD-006 cart, MSB Reference DAC --> Linear Tube Audio MicroZOTL --> Ampzilla 2000, 2nd Edition --> Fyne Audio F1-12
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April 10, 2020, 09:32 PM #16
Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
Joe, I have yet to hear a SS amp that did not sound good with the GAT. It will certainly tell you what SS amp is better.
I use adaptors with my Nordost cable and no complaints with the sq - one day I will terminate it xlr, but then I will need adaptors for my tube mono'sSource: Technics SP10mk3 - Thales Simplicity II, TW Raven AC-3 - Graham Phantom, SME 3012-R, Exclusive P3,,Linn LP12 - Naim ARO
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April 11, 2020, 05:28 AM #17
Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
Thank you so much for the reassurance. The GAT2 is wonderful and really makes the most of an amp.
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First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
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April 11, 2020, 09:43 AM #18
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Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
Hello XV-1, you are right, the Rowland M625 S2 sports only balanced inputs. However, the factory can provide RCA2XLR adapter which they have tested not to degrade the signal... And you would still benefit from some of the noise reduction and intermodulation barrier of the device's XLR input coupling using Lundahl transformers.
Saluti, GuidoElectronics: Rowland Daemon 1500W Superintegrated, Rowland Aeris DAC+PSU, M925 430W monos, Esoteric X-01 transport
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April 11, 2020, 09:56 AM #19
Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
Micro Seiki SX-8000 air bearing table, SME 312s arm, SME 3012R arn, Dynavector XV-1s cartridge, Lyra Etna SL cartridge, ARC Ref 3 phono stage, Otari MX-55 2 track R2R, Ampex 350 tape repros, Roon Nucleus Plus music server, HiFi Rose 150B DAC, ARC Ref 6, ARC Ref 75 with KT-150s, Parasound JC5 amp , JBL 4345 speakers, Viero Equilibro Level 3 speaker cables, and Definitive Technology Ref subs.
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April 11, 2020, 10:50 AM #20
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April 11, 2020, 10:57 AM #21
Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
Micro Seiki SX-8000 air bearing table, SME 312s arm, SME 3012R arn, Dynavector XV-1s cartridge, Lyra Etna SL cartridge, ARC Ref 3 phono stage, Otari MX-55 2 track R2R, Ampex 350 tape repros, Roon Nucleus Plus music server, HiFi Rose 150B DAC, ARC Ref 6, ARC Ref 75 with KT-150s, Parasound JC5 amp , JBL 4345 speakers, Viero Equilibro Level 3 speaker cables, and Definitive Technology Ref subs.
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April 11, 2020, 11:27 AM #22
Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
Hi Guido, I like Jeff's gear a lot and him as a person. Ive owned quite a few legacy pieces and some from the 2000s. I asked you the same question MEP has, this was at WBF way back when. 5 posts in I thought this guy is a shill for Jeff, NO ONE likes any brand THAT much When I whittle down the list of worthy gear one should own at least once in their life JRDG seems to land in my top 5 more often than not.
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April 11, 2020, 11:41 AM #23
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Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
I don't need a disclaimer and just treat all posts / reviews the same. If read enough from an individual, you know the bias and then consume accordingly.
IE with Guido, big Rowland fan boy and believes in LONG break-ins so I consume his post with the bias in mind. No knock on Guido or Rowland.
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April 11, 2020, 01:16 PM #24
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Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
Hmmm, I'm afraid that I might be more of a fan old gent than a fanboy by now *Rolls Eyes!*
More seriously, over the years I have observed a few top flight SS power amplifier brands that IMO share musical/sonic philosophy with Rowland, although they apply different technical solutions to achieve it.
Namely Bel Canto (particularly Black and the old REF1000 MK.2), Luxman, DartZeel, and Soulution. I always enjoyed enormously listening to Bel Canto and Luxman. DarTZeel is for me astonishingly immersive, and Soulution simply stunning.
My positive bias towards these brands stems from my musical interests, which largely revolve around classical music from the middle ages to modern times, for which IMO these five brands excell for their goldielockian approach to bandwidth, harmonic exposure, dynamics, low level detail, and minimizaation of intermodulative artifacts.
Particularly Solution and DartZeel I have found to be close to the best Rowland sound I have experienced, namely M925 and Daemon. Why not M625 S2? Because I have not heard M625 S2, thus all I know about it is some details about internals, and mostly glowing third party reports about its musical behavior.
Saluti from an unrepentant music fan-geezer, GuidoElectronics: Rowland Daemon 1500W Superintegrated, Rowland Aeris DAC+PSU, M925 430W monos, Esoteric X-01 transport
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April 11, 2020, 02:48 PM #25
Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
Guido,
Thank you very much for your continued updates and thoughts on Rowland. I’m looking forward to more information on the upcoming new product announcement from Rowland. Please let me know what it will be. Maybe by the time it’s ready, I’ll be ready too.
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April 11, 2020, 03:48 PM #26
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Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
Hello Joe, I will let you know about the upcoming Rowland product as soon as the pre-release fogger is lifted.
Far as I know, the wait should not be too long
Saluti, Guido (obsessive fan-geezer)Electronics: Rowland Daemon 1500W Superintegrated, Rowland Aeris DAC+PSU, M925 430W monos, Esoteric X-01 transport
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April 11, 2020, 07:15 PM #27
Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
I recall seeing a Rowland dealer's video that claimed there's a new version of the 725 mono amps coming soon.
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April 11, 2020, 07:30 PM #28
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Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
Hmm... An M725 monos successor? ... What a fascinating conjecture!
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Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
I think Rowland will be releasing a new Class AB 735 mono-amps.
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Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
I would love to try the Luxman C900u preamp with my JR 625 S2 amplifier.
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Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
Hmmm... Like Caspar Weinberger once said.... "I will neither confirm nor deny!" *Grins!*
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April 11, 2020, 09:37 PM #32
Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
Hahahaha
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April 11, 2020, 10:21 PM #33
Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
Sounds like I got it...
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Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
I agree with your post and you know I respect your opinion. I would like to hear the C900u with my 625 S2 in my system. Usually, but not always there isn't a night and day difference between components that are considered on the same level. Will the C900u be a real game changer in my system or a lateral move? My next move for now is going from dual REL Carbon Limited subs to a REL no. 25.
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Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
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April 16, 2020, 09:59 AM #37
Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
Hello... The answer to your question is an enthusiastic YES regarding the Magnepan 3.7i since I had that exact combo and it is exceptional! Effortless dynamics, smooth, musical, and spacious! Regarding the 20.7 I can't definitively say since I've never had them or heard them driven by the 625, but my guess would be that they'd be similarly well matched. Hope that helps.
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Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
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Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
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Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
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Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
I've now had the pleasure of having both amps in my YG Hailey 2 -based system.
I don't feel there is a generic winner or loser, although the JRDG drives the Haileys much better. The Luxman has more texture, but a smaller soundstage with a slightly shelved top end. The JRDG excels in microdynamics and has better bass than the Luxman with really silky, sweet highs. The Luxman is more midrange focused, while the JRDG is more top down I'd say at this point. Neither are bright of course. The 625 does lack some low midrange/upper bass weight - we are going to play with some speaker positioning today and see if that changes things. The cello for instance isn't quite fleshed out enough in classical music.
I've also had my trusty Ampzillas in session with these big boys and they aren't embarrassed. They aren't as transparent as either, but are very musical, dynamic, and perhaps more even top to bottom on the Haileys. The Zillas lack some decay that the Rowland provides and I feel would pair better with a tube preamp than my Music First.
Now you guys understand what I've been doing in quarantine. I've been trying to find an amp that doesn't cost as much as a D'agostino S250, but will provide similar enjoyment.Brinkmann Bardo w/ EMT HSD-006 cart, MSB Reference DAC --> Linear Tube Audio MicroZOTL --> Ampzilla 2000, 2nd Edition --> Fyne Audio F1-12
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June 20, 2020, 12:41 PM #45
Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
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June 20, 2020, 05:24 PM #46
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Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
Well Mike, I'm not done evaluating the various amps in my stable yet although the PS Audios just went up for sale. They had poor synergy with the YGs. The Pass 260.8s and Parasound JC1+s are probably the only other amps out there interesting in my price range. I wonder which one is warmer, as this speaker requires that.
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June 20, 2020, 06:00 PM #47
Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
Well, I could have told you that! Just be glad they didn’t pass DC and destroy your speakers!
The 260.8’s are fabulous with a touch of warmth. Can’t speak to the JC1+’s as I haven’t heard them yet. They are monsters whereas the 260.8’s are a more manageable size.
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Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
My Gear- Mains System-Pass X250 amp, BAT VK-51se preamp, Luxman DA-06 DAC, Magnepan 1.6's, Thorens TD-145 TT, Dual Martin Logan Subs, Vintage Luxman T-110 Tuner, Cables-WW Platinum 7 USB, Cardas Parsec XLR, AQ Columbia DBS 72v XLR, Belden 8402 XLR.
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Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
I'm very happy, I have received my Magnepan 3.7i two days ago.
It's a great combination with Jeff Rowland Model 625 (First version)
I listen them since two days...So they run 4 hours yesterday and 16 hours today...
It's fabulous !Marantz SA7S1/GRIMM AUDIO CC1/MARK LEVINSON 360S+TECHNICS SL1210 MKII/ORTOFON X1-MC/VPI CLASSIC 3 in rosewood/Audio-Technica ART-9/ESOTERIC E03+TAG MC LAREN T32R+JEFF ROWLAND CORUS+JEFF ROWLAND MODEL 625+Magnepan 3.7i+Cables line: all Furutech lineflux+power cord DIY
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Re: Rowland 625 S2 vs Luxman M900u? What’s better?
Hey Audio.bill,
You have right. It's a great combination.
I'm very happy with them !
It's unbelievable.
I watch movies too : I use the bypass entry with home theater preamplifier.
I love this Magnepan !!!
During the day, the volume is between 70 and 80 !!!
During the night, the volume is near 60 on the Jeff Rowland Corus.
Cables are Furutech Lineflux and Speakerflux.
Thanks Bill again !Marantz SA7S1/GRIMM AUDIO CC1/MARK LEVINSON 360S+TECHNICS SL1210 MKII/ORTOFON X1-MC/VPI CLASSIC 3 in rosewood/Audio-Technica ART-9/ESOTERIC E03+TAG MC LAREN T32R+JEFF ROWLAND CORUS+JEFF ROWLAND MODEL 625+Magnepan 3.7i+Cables line: all Furutech lineflux+power cord DIY
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