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    Re: New amp to drive Sonus Faber Olympica III - Hegel? Coda? Mark Levinson?

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    Speaker cables?
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    Re: New amp to drive Sonus Faber Olympica III - Hegel? Coda? Mark Levinson?

    Boris - Of those 3 amps I'm only familiar with the ML 5805. This was amongst a dozen amps I bought or borrowed to replace tube amps I'd previously been using. It was quite good but not the best of the dozen.

    Someone mentioned GamuT - I had the D200 Mk III for a year or so. Personally I preferred the GamuT over the ML and would have kept it if it wasn't for my high sensitivity speakers that objected to Gamut's lack of soft start and stop circuit.

    You could look outside the box and consider a Purifi-based Class D amp. After testing the dozen amps, I chose the relatively cheap NAD M33. 200 / 380 watts 8/4 ogms, so plenty of power. You COULD better this, but it'll cost a great deal more than the amps on your list, I believe.
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    Re: New amp to drive Sonus Faber Olympica III - Hegel? Coda? Mark Levinson?

    I have digital combo already - Lyngdorf TDAI-1120 There is perfect baby with room correction. But anyway I think such modern devices sound synthetic. Now comparing Hegel 590 and Luxman 590. Both are in my room connecting to SF Olympica 3

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    Re: New amp to drive Sonus Faber Olympica III - Hegel? Coda? Mark Levinson?

    that should be interesting, which do you like better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boris99 View Post
    I have digital combo already - Lyngdorf TDAI-1120 There is perfect baby with room correction. But anyway I think such modern devices sound synthetic. Now comparing Hegel 590 and Luxman 590. Both are in my room connecting to SF Olympica 3
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    Re: New amp to drive Sonus Faber Olympica III - Hegel? Coda? Mark Levinson?

    Lyngdorf TDAI-1120 is very functional nice hi-fi. It has room correction which make them very useful. There is real advantage over other similar devices.
    Luxman L-590AxII - wool and silk :-) warm, wide and rich sound. Very well done. Real good old Japan quality. Very good companion for my Harbeths. But not enough powerful for my Sonus Oly 3.
    Hegel H590 hmmm...... powerful, good sound. It would be interesting to make comparison A/B test with Gryphon 300. I didn't compared DAC but believe to many reviewers that it is fine. However quality is disappointment.
    Cheap frame made of... sure not like tin but.... Noisy transformer. I even found microphone effect whet put it on floor near speaker.
    But Hegel can drive my Sonus which I like. Cheap frame - yes but light weight... Gryphon 300 is well done and gorgeous but more expensive and heavy.
    So, I will keep Hegel for Sonus. Lyngdorf for Harbeths in my study room. So sad but good-bye Luxman

    Thank you for advices everybody

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    Re: New amp to drive Sonus Faber Olympica III - Hegel? Coda? Mark Levinson?

    Boris, sounds like you made some excellent choices. Happy listening!
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    Re: New amp to drive Sonus Faber Olympica III - Hegel? Coda? Mark Levinson?

    Thank you

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    Re: New amp to drive Sonus Faber Olympica III - Hegel? Coda? Mark Levinson?

    If they are available to you look at Herbie's Audio for some isolation feet, they are very reasonably priced and work. Probably need Tender Foot and maybe one of the items to place on top, forgot the name.
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    Re: New amp to drive Sonus Faber Olympica III - Hegel? Coda? Mark Levinson?

    OREA Series | IsoAcoustics
    Will get this

    Still thinking about new speaker cables. Will try Absolute - top in Acoustic Zen. This cable is hybrid of copper/silver
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    Re: New amp to drive Sonus Faber Olympica III - Hegel? Coda? Mark Levinson?

    Have the CODA CSiB driving B&W 804 D3s, came to this thread after the fact you went with the 590 to power your SFs, seems like a good match 👍 for those speakers

    I have Transparent speaker cables, you might add them to your list to audition.

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    Re: New amp to drive Sonus Faber Olympica III - Hegel? Coda? Mark Levinson?

    What a journey! And a lot of great description. I'm going on a similar journey now, but don't have your skill to describe the experience.

    For speaker cable I'll suggest looking at Zu Audio and HiDiamond. Zu is not all too well known for their speaker cables but I doubt I'll ever part with mine - everything thing they touch becomes more clear and extended with improved soundstage. Close were the HiDiamond D8, just warmed things up slightly and that's not my preference. Zu is a US company so maybe not as easy to get for you, but HiDiamond is out of Italy.
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    Re: New amp to drive Sonus Faber Olympica III - Hegel? Coda? Mark Levinson?

    So. Iíve using new AZ Satori shotgun now. Generally fine. But thinking again that there are cables which sounds better :-). Also, power cord. I use Oyaide Tunami from wall to filter Isotek Sigmas and Saec 6000 from filter to Hegel. I bought Isotek few years ago when used few components on rack together. But why I need it now? I have just all-in-one combo Hegel H590, isnít it? So, I want to buy any suitable power cord 3m/10ft long to try sound without Isotek.

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    Re: New amp to drive Sonus Faber Olympica III - Hegel? Coda? Mark Levinson?

    BTW , sometime we think about fidelity of our electronics, right?
    How it similar to real live music?
    I can say that Hegel 590 and SF Oly gave me good result - on half way to live sound at least :-)

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    Re: New amp to drive Sonus Faber Olympica III - Hegel? Coda? Mark Levinson?

    I have found quality power cords are a worth while improvement in sound.

    Power conditioners can be an improvement as well but you always want to compare the sound from direct to wall outlet. Some conditioners can degrade the sound or make a change you may not like. I remember trying a name brand device that went into the outlet then you plug your amp into that, a well known reviewer said he couldn't listen without his, well despite all that I did not like the result the device took some of the attack away.

    Some things help, some things don't, continue to experiment though for those that do help.

    Glad to hear you are liking the 590.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boris99 View Post
    So. Iíve using new AZ Satori shotgun now. Generally fine. But thinking again that there are cables which sounds better :-). Also, power cord. I use Oyaide Tunami from wall to filter Isotek Sigmas and Saec 6000 from filter to Hegel. I bought Isotek few years ago when used few components on rack together. But why I need it now? I have just all-in-one combo Hegel H590, isnít it? So, I want to buy any suitable power cord 3m/10ft long to try sound without Isotek.
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    Re: New amp to drive Sonus Faber Olympica III - Hegel? Coda? Mark Levinson?

    ExperimentsÖ Iíd like to press Pause :-)

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    Re: New amp to drive Sonus Faber Olympica III - Hegel? Coda? Mark Levinson?

    Boris, how is the evolution of your listening progress with the Hegel and Olympica IIIs so far?

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    Re: New amp to drive Sonus Faber Olympica III - Hegel? Coda? Mark Levinson?

    Briefly- good enough. Iíve using WiFi bridge for net connection, Kimber Palladian power cord and Acoustic Zen Satori shotgun speaker cables. Thatís all.
    Sure there are some amps which are much better than this Hegel. But I like it because of high power, light weight, all-in-one construction

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    Re: New amp to drive Sonus Faber Olympica III - Hegel? Coda? Mark Levinson?

    Hegel is not in the same league as Coda.
    Iím not even so sure Mark Levinson is.
    My grouping would be with Gryphon and Pass but certainly not better.
    What is you price bracket?
    Btw love Sonus Faber.
    Great sound best built cabinets.
    European craftsmanship.

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    Re: New amp to drive Sonus Faber Olympica III - Hegel? Coda? Mark Levinson?

    I can appreciate your enthusiasm but Pass builds amps that far exceed where Coda has gone, same with Levinson and Gryphon.

    I like the Coda older amps better than these new ones they are making, I bought an 8 and sold it, liked my Levinson better in the end. My Coda CSX is on par with my 532h it comes down to the sound you like. I prefer the Levinson's better transparency and better dynamics. The Coda seems to have more power and excels in the midrange though.

    I know people with the newer Coda amps and they seem to sound better with the Coda preamp.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tobb View Post
    Hegel is not in the same league as Coda.
    Iím not even so sure Mark Levinson is.
    My grouping would be with Gryphon and Pass but certainly not better.
    What is you price bracket?
    Btw love Sonus Faber.
    Great sound best built cabinets.
    European craftsmanship.
    Aurender ACS10 w/Audioquest Diamond USB,
    Mark Levinson #526, 532h, JBL 4367's
    Clearaudio Performance DC w/Maestro cart
    Clarus Concerto & their Crimson cables

    HT: Marantz AV8003, Linn 5125, JBL SAM3ha, Revel s30,
    SVS PC13 Ultra
    Transparent, Analysis Plus & Tributaries. PS Audio filtering
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    Re: New amp to drive Sonus Faber Olympica III - Hegel? Coda? Mark Levinson?

    That said wouldn't SF speakers with Pass, Gryphon or even ML be like putting chocolate syrup on chocolate ice cream? It's been awhile but I remember Sonus aber to be warm sounding speakers. Krell or Ayre if you got deep pockets.
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    Re: New amp to drive Sonus Faber Olympica III - Hegel? Coda? Mark Levinson?

    I would agree with that assessment, that's why I didn't like SF with Mac.

    Quote Originally Posted by steve59 View Post
    That said wouldn't SF speakers with Pass, Gryphon or even ML be like putting chocolate syrup on chocolate ice cream? It's been awhile but I remember Sonus aber to be warm sounding speakers. Krell or Ayre if you got deep pockets.
    Aurender ACS10 w/Audioquest Diamond USB,
    Mark Levinson #526, 532h, JBL 4367's
    Clearaudio Performance DC w/Maestro cart
    Clarus Concerto & their Crimson cables

    HT: Marantz AV8003, Linn 5125, JBL SAM3ha, Revel s30,
    SVS PC13 Ultra
    Transparent, Analysis Plus & Tributaries. PS Audio filtering
    Sony XBR-75X940D & BDP
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