Thread: MSB Reference vs CH C1.2

Hi all members.
I have a Sonus Faber iL Cremonese ex3me and driving it with CH M1.1 and a MSB Reference Dac-Pre. I came to CH becouse Gryphon’s power rating is a bit short for sonus faber and i felt CH is more relaxed,refined and detailed.After coming from Gryphon Essence pre power combo i am not happy with the soundstage depth and scale.Maybe it is the difference of class A to AB or lack of active pre amp. I am a stream guy. I listen qobuz and tidal over roon.So i have two questions to ask .

1.My dealer offers to change the Msb dac with a C1.2 with stream card and tells me to use it as a pre amp. Then add a x1 powersupply.The snergy of being the same brand will be better than msb m1.1 combo. Sounds great but i read that most of the peple says dac’s pre will never be good as active pre amp like L1. I am on a budget now so is it better to go with L1 and add a relativly good dac from another brand OR get the C1.2 and solve it in one box and add X1 power supply with that budget.?

2.Or keep the MSB Reference as dac and stream only and add an L1 pre amp to drive M1.1 power amp?mIs MSB reference a better dac than Ch C1.2?

Thanks

Never had MSB but had and have lots of chp. An l1 will do more than using c1 as pre/streamer.

Thank you. So adding L1 is better upgrade than adding X1 to dac than? Dou you think it is that bad to use C1.2 as a pre at least for some time? I can use it that way and then add a L1 in the future. Or maybe keep msb and buy a L1 for pre.

Thank you.
You said they will sound diiferent for msb and ch dacs. What may be the difference to be expected?I tough both CF will make a synergy.
Msb amps are out of my reach cause the dealer here in istanbul does not carry them in stock.
I had problem with the speaker with gryphon because of lacking power.