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March 29, 2022, 06:51 AM #1
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I am considering going Integrated...Luxman L-590ax-ii discontinued?
As I am rethinking my audio space and shelf, I'm almost at the point where I may sell/trade-in My First Watt J2 and PS Audio BHK pre and go integrated. I like the idea, now, of a minimalist look on my audio shelf. The two integrated I am looking at is the Pass INT 30 and Luxman L-590ax-ii. For aesthetics, I'm leaning toward the Luxman line and would compare the built-in phono to my Elac PPA-7 with the possibility of getting rid of it as well. I've read that the L-590ax-ii is discontinued. One reason I heard is Luxman is replacing it with an updated version sometime in 2022. The other is that Luxman is getting out of the class-A game.
Does anyone have any info?
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March 29, 2022, 09:49 AM #2
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Re: I am considering going Integrated...Luxman L-590ax-ii discontinued?
Hi Arcman,
From what I have heard from a dealer, Luxman does not have a replacement for the unit. I just had my brand new unit delivered on Monday, possibly one of the last new units in the US. This will be a keeper for a long time, even if I move on and need more power!
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March 29, 2022, 10:26 AM #3
Re: I am considering going Integrated...Luxman L-590ax-ii discontinued?
We have one brand new 595se left. That’s the 590axii on steroids.
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March 29, 2022, 11:14 AM #4
Re: I am considering going Integrated...Luxman L-590ax-ii discontinued?
Kevin
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March 29, 2022, 02:56 PM #5
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Re: I am considering going Integrated...Luxman L-590ax-ii discontinued?
The 595Se is a beautiful, endgame piece IMO. However, it's quite pricey, especially being limited edition. You'll sell that unit quickly
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March 30, 2022, 12:08 PM #6
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Re: I am considering going Integrated...Luxman L-590ax-ii discontinued?
Doing some research, I probably could sell my PS Audio BHK pre, FirstWatt J2 and purchase a newer used L-590-axii without much cash out of pocket. I sent an email to Jeff Sigmund of Luxman USA (he has replied to my emails in the past) and see if there is going to be a replacement for the 590-axii in 2022. What I am guessing will happen (just me) is that Luxman will replace the 590 with a NON Anniversary, NON limited edition of the 595se. Basically, start phasing out VU meters. Again just a guess. McIntosh has done so with some components. I can't see Luxman doing an entire redesign for just 300 units.
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March 30, 2022, 12:23 PM #7
Re: I am considering going Integrated...Luxman L-590ax-ii discontinued?
Let me save you the time, there is no replacement for the 590. Luxman will not be making any more Class A amps for environmental reasons.
Our last 595se is one of the last ones left.
After this, the 507z, 509z, etc will be the future. AB designs. Maybe the 507z would be worth considering.
The meters are not the focus, the Class A is. The 507z will have meters.
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March 30, 2022, 12:42 PM #8
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March 30, 2022, 12:44 PM #9
Re: I am considering going Integrated...Luxman L-590ax-ii discontinued?
My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
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March 30, 2022, 01:08 PM #10
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Re: I am considering going Integrated...Luxman L-590ax-ii discontinued?
Thanks for info. Looks like the 507z will be in the same price ballpark. That stinks...I love Class A sound
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March 30, 2022, 01:28 PM #11
Re: I am considering going Integrated...Luxman L-590ax-ii discontinued?
My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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March 30, 2022, 01:56 PM #12
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Re: I am considering going Integrated...Luxman L-590ax-ii discontinued?
LOL.I wish I could...if I had the funds I would buy in a heartbeat. Thaks for the offer
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March 30, 2022, 06:41 PM #13
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March 30, 2022, 07:10 PM #14
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Re: I am considering going Integrated...Luxman L-590ax-ii discontinued?
for best sound you run your classA 24/7....some soak anything the wall provides
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March 30, 2022, 10:46 PM #15
Re: I am considering going Integrated...Luxman L-590ax-ii discontinued?
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March 31, 2022, 07:23 AM #16
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Re: I am considering going Integrated...Luxman L-590ax-ii discontinued?
I could see, if it's not already present somewhere or it's coming, companies having to keep "power usage" under certain levels similar to automotive CAFE standards. Eliminating Class A brings their overall product offerings power consumption down a bit.
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March 31, 2022, 07:30 AM #17
Re: I am considering going Integrated...Luxman L-590ax-ii discontinued?
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March 31, 2022, 05:19 PM #18
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Re: I am considering going Integrated...Luxman L-590ax-ii discontinued?
The Pass INT-60 may be a good alternative
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March 31, 2022, 06:05 PM #19
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Re: I am considering going Integrated...Luxman L-590ax-ii discontinued?
Maybe consider Devialet. I like the sound but not as polite as Pass.
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March 31, 2022, 07:51 PM #20
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April 1, 2022, 09:09 AM #21
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Re: I am considering going Integrated...Luxman L-590ax-ii discontinued?
The L-590ax-ii
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April 2, 2022, 06:53 AM #22
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Re: I am considering going Integrated...Luxman L-590ax-ii discontinued?
going thru various forums and Facebook groups, I'm surprised that there are quite a few people who went from Pass Lbs to Luxman integrated (a few the other way around as well).
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April 2, 2022, 08:56 AM #23
Re: I am considering going Integrated...Luxman L-590ax-ii discontinued?
The INT-60 might have a little more power than than the Luxman (after the first 30 watts in class A, up to about 80 watts in class A/B); most listeners have felt the Pass to be more detailed and dynamic, the Luxman more smooth, although like so many things the preference probably depends on the rest of your system (and I suspect the differences are minimal).
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April 2, 2022, 04:25 PM #24
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Re: I am considering going Integrated...Luxman L-590ax-ii discontinued?
I prefer smooth. I'm not into the "wooly" tube sound, however, a tad on the warm side of neutral is fine with me. Bright and harsh is the only thing I cannot handle. Once I heard an Onkyo A/V receiver with mid level (non heritage) Klipsch towers at an a/v store and the person playing it cranked it up super loud. The most irritating sound I ever heard and actually swore I would never consider Klipsch based on that encounter. The brightness hurt my ears. Now, I don't know if the person fiddled with any tone settings. That was 20 years ago and I have since heard Klipsch heritage speakers that sound super smooth and almost warm.
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April 7, 2022, 06:30 PM #25
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My BHK Preamp is SOLD!! Next is my FirstWatt J2 and then I will start shopping around for an Integrated. So Far Luxman, Luxman is what I am leaning toward.
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April 8, 2022, 08:18 AM #26
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How much do you want for the J2? BTW, I would keep it.......
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April 9, 2022, 08:59 AM #27
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Not certain if i would sell it. probably the $2200 range which is what most private sellers are asking (some higher) when they pop up.
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April 11, 2022, 10:56 AM #28
Re: I am considering going Integrated...Luxman L-590ax-ii discontinued?
I actually have a mint Devialet D400 that I might be willing to sell. Original owner. Been wonderful over the years but thinking of maybe making a change.
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April 12, 2022, 07:45 AM #29
Re: I am considering going Integrated...Luxman L-590ax-ii discontinued?
I received my new Luxman L595A-SE integrated on Saturday and have about two days of running time on it. So far, so fantastic.
I was concerned about the relative low output, but it is a perfect match for my Sonus Faber speakers.
I was coming from an all-tube system. The Luxman's Class A solid state sound keeps all the warmth but is more transparent and has a more even tonal signature.
Very nice so far.Kevin
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Bar: EAT C-sharp/Hana MH, and exaSound s82 > Luxman L-595SE amp. GolderEar One.R speakers. Shunyata power, Audioquest cables.
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April 13, 2022, 05:30 PM #30
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Re: I am considering going Integrated...Luxman L-590ax-ii discontinued?
did you buy new or used one. I saw a nice one on US Audio Mart for $9900.
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April 14, 2022, 07:50 AM #31
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New.
Very glad I did.Kevin
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Bar: EAT C-sharp/Hana MH, and exaSound s82 > Luxman L-595SE amp. GolderEar One.R speakers. Shunyata power, Audioquest cables.
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April 14, 2022, 01:47 PM #32
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Re: I am considering going Integrated...Luxman L-590ax-ii discontinued?
Many companies are focused on ESG and could be the reason. Then again, Luxman hasn’t sold a class A stereo amp in years.
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April 15, 2022, 05:00 PM #33
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I'm thinking to sell the 590axII. Let me know if anyone is interested.
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April 17, 2022, 08:30 AM #34
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Re: I am considering going Integrated...Luxman L-590ax-ii discontinued?
Hi, you could run a class A amp for 6 hours a week or class AB for 20, doesn't make any sense at all, wait until they start to faze out petrol and diesel cars out in 8 years, in a vast country like the states, you will be trapped at home, just about make work and back, don't believe the 280 mile range they quote,
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