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    Burmester

    I just donít hear or read much about this brand anymore. Canít remember the last time I heard or read something about it. Ever since Dieter passed away in 2015, there hasnít been much action for the brand over here.

    Is it different in other parts of the world?


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    Re: Burmester

    Beautiful looking gear. Yes, Mike, havenít seen or heard anything new about this company in a while.
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    Re: Burmester

    Hi, thatís more or less always been the case. They donít make too much noise. Though they came up with their mighty 159 mono amps a few years back.

    I have been using the 911 mk3 mono power amps and the 088 Pre since 2010 and I love them. I have heard other amps but never felt the urge to change.

    One of the best amplifiers out there.

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    Very nice power amps. But Burmester have not really released anything interesting since the 911 mk3 almost a decade ago.

    They have launched a media player for 20k, and are partnering with Mercedes on car audio. But nothing that would excite me.


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    Re: Burmester

    Love my Burmester gear.
    I consider the brand a classic, like Mercedes.
    Don't need them to 'make noise'
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    Re: Burmester

    Me too, I very much enjoy my 077, 100 and 948. Some of the best stuff out there I also love the fact that they don't change models all the time.
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    Re: Burmester

    Busy releasing next Burmester equipped Porsche and Mercedes models.
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    Re: Burmester

    My Porsche TTS is equipped with their stereo option.
    Better than the lower Bose option, but nothing really exceptional in sound quality!
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    Re: Burmester

    Hi,

    Actually they have released their signature series mono amps and speakers in the last 3 years- they keep a relatively low profile. I find that their products compete with the best out there, regardless, in sound quality and build.

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    Re: Burmester

    Quote Originally Posted by FRO View Post
    My Porsche TTS is equipped with their stereo option.
    Better than the lower Bose option, but nothing really exceptional in sound quality!
    'Cos there is very little difference between the two. I have researched the subject on my Cayenne, which has Bose. As it turned out, the only part that might be supplied by Burmester is the AMT tweeter (but I doubt Burmester is manufacturing drive units themselves, so Porsche might be getting those tweeters directly from the manufacturer). The rest of the components - speakers, amps are almost the same for both Bose and Burmester and are made by the same OEM manufacturer (amps are made by Harman, if I remember correctly; speakers are probably made by Bosch/Isophon, as they make most drive units for VW/Audi/Porsche).

    So the whole "Burmester sounds system" or "Bose sound system" is a more marketing than anything else to me.

    I would not be surprised, if both systems were developed by the exact same inhouse audio engineers and Porsche only pays for the nice Bose or Burmester logo they stick on top.

    There is definately not a $5000 or what is the cost of upgrade between those systems in extra parts. More like $100-200 in OEM parts pricing. I bet Porsche managers are laughing on the way to the bank everytime someone orders the Burmester system
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    Re: Burmester

    The Stereo mag featured an article on the Burmester signature line a few months ago. Of course, this is not a technical article or review but gives some idea of what the company hasnít been upto on the home audio front.

    Stereo Magazine: Special: Signature Line on Schloss Gross Rietz

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elberoth View Post
    'Cos there is very little difference between the two. I have researched the subject on my Cayenne, which has Bose. As it turned out, the only part that might be supplied by Burmester is the AMT tweeter (but I doubt Burmester is manufacturing drive units themselves, so Porsche might be getting those tweeters directly from the manufacturer). The rest of the components - speakers, amps are almost the same for both Bose and Burmester and are made by the same OEM manufacturer (amps are made by Harman, if I remember correctly; speakers are probably made by Bosch/Isophon, as they make most drive units for VW/Audi/Porsche).

    So the whole "Burmester sounds system" or "Bose sound system" is a more marketing than anything else to me.

    I would not be surprised, if both systems were developed by the exact same inhouse audio engineers and Porsche only pays for the nice Bose or Burmester logo they stick on top.

    There is definately not a $5000 or what is the cost of upgrade between those systems in extra parts. More like $100-200 in OEM parts pricing. I bet Porsche managers are laughing on the way to the bank everytime someone orders the Burmester system
    I never knew that, but considering that Porsche is the most profitable car company (per car basis) I am not surprised.

    I was never impressed with the Bose or Burmester systems in Porsche. Porsche used to have a non branded audio system that is probably just fine when you consider that most folks want to listen to the engine. However, that barebone audio did not come with other features (like HD radio, BT, etc.) that were only offered with the Bose/Burmester packages. That was the way Porsche ďenticedĒ you to pay extra for the other audio packages. Of all the car audio systems that I have heard, Audiís B&O is the best sounding.

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    Re: Burmester

    Itís too bad Burmester doesnít do a better job of marketing/distributing their products in the US. They make some good stuff but it doesnít get promoted as well as other competing brands.

    Re: car audio. The best sound in a 911 is the flat 6.
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