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The Best Amplifiers | Buyers Guide 2021
I love some of these picks!
The Best Amplifiers | Buyers Guide 2021 | Part-Time AudiophileFleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated. Luxman L-595aSE
NAD C 658 streamer.
First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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December 5, 2020, 08:17 PM #2Senior Member
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Thanks for posting Joe --I own the Mactone--great to see the brand getting some recognition since 1964
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Seriously good and superbly musical--I had Shindo, Jadis, in house and the Mactone smoked both brands.
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December 5, 2020, 08:22 PM #3Super Moderator
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Thank you Bruce. I keep seeing the Mactone but had no clue. I’m so happy you love it.
Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated. Luxman L-595aSE
NAD C 658 streamer.
First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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D-Sonic.com The Best Amplifiers | Buyers Guide 2021
A Professional REVIEW:
Look for the latest review at Hometheaterhifi
FROM a customer:
At avsforum go to post?id=59522972
"Now, I’m amazed at the quality and clean reproduction of the lower bass notes. From top to bottom it sounds as though I have upgraded my speaker system. I love trumpet music and I’ve always perceived that as FAST as Dizzy Gillespie is, he wasn’t completing the notes. He was blasting them out. Now I realize that my previous amplifiers from the last 12 years haven’t been fast enough to keep up with him. Now I am hearing how crisp and clean each note he plays is. Amazing. People often describe sound with depth and width. With this amp, I’m describing it as a “sound field” There is a comprehensiveness to what I’m hearing now that previously didn’t exist. I’ve never heard anything like this. In my system, this is even quieter than the PS Audio amps."
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I see my int 250 is mentioned in the integrated amps section. Nice to be validated.
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Love these lists. Give us stuff to talk about. Obviously any list that doesn’t include a Gryphon power amp in its list of best amps is fake news
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December 7, 2020, 02:42 PM #7Banned
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There can only be one "BEST"
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December 7, 2020, 02:56 PM #8Super Moderator
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Those are huge, omg!
Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated. Luxman L-595aSE
NAD C 658 streamer.
First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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December 7, 2020, 02:58 PM #9Senior Member
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Yep, the top plate alone must weight 50 pounds!
Originally Posted by joeinid
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December 7, 2020, 03:09 PM #10Banned
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Yeah, specs like these do require some physical heft...
1,500 W RMS at 8Ω
3,000 W RMS at 4Ω
6,000 W RMS at 2Ω
320 V peak-to-peak
113 V RMS
Output Current 400 A peak
Weight 570 lbs
Better use that back "support brace" when lifting...
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Have any of you guys heard them? I have.
For my money:
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Audionet Stern Linestage and Heisenberg Monoblocks | The Absolute Sound
Summing Up
Acknowledging the remarkable advancements we’ve witnessed in solid-state amplification over the past dozen years or so, especially those leveraged by a number of industry leaders, most notably from the U.S., Germany, and Switzerland, nothing else in my immediate experience better demonstrates the transistor’s ability to accurately and artfully combine delicacy with power, focus with bloom, resolution with body, detail with texture, and clarity with expressiveness than the Stern and Heisenberg. These flagship Scientist Series products from Audionet should be seen as more than merely the significant accomplishment of Thomas Gessler’s vision; they represent the embodiment of the most refined triple threat available today—class-leading design and build-quality, outstanding specifications, and landmark sonic performance.
might push the bottom tomorrow
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Haven’t heard the 3090s. That would be a heck of a shootout.
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ahh thats the 3000er series.
yes, a very good shootout.
renteless vs boulder3050 vs heisenberg
heard the renteless a couple of times at my dealer with the wilson chronosonic xvx. deeply beautiful.
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just remembered that i did agree with him to bring my audionet humboldt to do a shootout on the xvx vs renteless with hd pre.
sometimes next year maybe
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wow! the case work on those DD amps is incredible ...and, must account for at least 50% of COGS.
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I'm sure they sound great. But why so ugly?The same with MBL, they will probably sound good but everything they make is ugly (gold bling). Originally Posted by TheOctopus
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really wouldnt mind the golden color
darTZeel NHB-468 monoblock amplifiers – Ana Mighty Sound
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"570 lbs ", holy crap ! Originally Posted by TheOctopus
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These would be my choice too. I’d love these! Originally Posted by u-sound
Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated. Luxman L-595aSE
NAD C 658 streamer.
First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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Originally Posted by u-sound
my choice too, listening to them right now and loving it! Originally Posted by joeinid
they really do it all in my system. i've had a few other fine amps in here but these just get out of the way of the music so well. and don't sound like tubes or solid state. they sound like music. i never get the sense i am hearing though something. just direct to the performance.
the gold anodized color is not my favorite, but in person the design 'works' and i don't mind it at all. it projects a very swiss 'Rolex' sort of vibe. i've seen these amps in black anoidized with silver accents and i prefer the gold.my system on Audiogon; https://www.audiogon.com/systems/615
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heard them at 2019 Axpona, and did not care for the system sound. but it was a Friday, first day of a three day show, and a very big and involved system. so no way to point fingers at specific gear. i think it's so hard to judge any gear outside a mature system where they can be optimized. top gear is never plug and play. Originally Posted by Mordante
i'm sure they can sound awesome. reports are very positive.my system on Audiogon; https://www.audiogon.com/systems/615
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Mike, Originally Posted by Mike
Have any of you guys heard them? I have.
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How does it compare to the Mephisto?
Thanks
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Come on over for a listen! Both are world class, but different. Mephisto impresses you with her massive soundstage, slam and bass that is just unreal. The Boulder gets to you in a more of a transparent, but smoooooth, totally un-solid state, almost tube like sound. One for your head, one for your heart. Pick your poison. Originally Posted by apdoc2004
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this is why dartzeel468 and heisenberg are sitting on the throne as they deliver the combination of soundstage/slam/bass AND transparent/tube-like on the highest level.
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after my post i started to read a review about the 468 and found this
" instrumental attacks and overall transient performance remained the best I've heard from a solid-state amplifier. No doubt, though, those who demand more tight-fisted control and bottom-end "slam" might look toward something from Boulder, for instance."
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"Those who prefer in a solid-state amp greater bottom-end "grip" and iron-fisted control may want to consider a different amplifier. As I mentioned above, I think the CH Precision M1.1s produce more weight and punch on bottom, and Boulder's amps tend to have more overall speaker grip. However, in my system, the darTZeel "sound" is ideal for all musical genres: good grip on bottom, natural transient performance, plenty of air on top if it's in the recording, and never even a hint of etch, grain, or edge."
so the boulder in this case seems to be the bassmonster.
and gryphon will kill you i guess
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I have heard them at the last Axpona...i think with Alexis speakers if i remember right..anyway..the sound was obviously very good but i would not trade my Chalice Audio 'Grail' SET mono blocks for them..My sound is just 'pure' in every respect.
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Innuos 'PhoenixNet' Switch
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nice to see the pass XA25 there , which is actually a decent size for real world living
and no wonder SIt 3 are so rare if omnly 250 made1]bel canto EIX/ F5 monoblocks . BC cd2, tannoy eaton legacy 2]bel canto pre 5 ,arcam a85 , black ice modded dac
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XA25 is a great performer. I bought 15 SIT-3’s and sold them all except one that I kept for myself. Now that’s a great amp! Originally Posted by hifinutt
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yes must put the XA25 on the list !!
1]bel canto EIX/ F5 monoblocks . BC cd2, tannoy eaton legacy 2]bel canto pre 5 ,arcam a85 , black ice modded dac
modded dac , marantz sa8005, Verity audio Rienzi
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That amp has the flux capacitor in the middle! That baby will take you back in time! :-) Originally Posted by Mike
Have any of you guys heard them? I have.
For my money:
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I upgraded the power supply on my Gigafoil v4 to a Weiss PSU 102. It’s very nice step up. But with the new model, you’re looking at $2000 before even investing in a SOTA linear power supply.
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