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    Why no turntable?

    Iím curious, why donít more audiophiles at least consider a basic vinyl rig? Iíve heard the regular reasons: too much care and feeding, I sold all my records, Iím not buying anymore vinyl, itís too much hassle. But I personally donít find that to be the case.

    Wouldnít having a turntable in addition to a great digital setup be nice?

    The great thing about a turntable is that a great turntable today will be a great turntable in 10 or 20 years from now. Wouldnít that be a good investment?



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    Re: Why no turntable?

    I can see the attraction to vinyl, but for me personally I’ve been spoiled by the convenience of Roon and Lumin.
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    Why no turntable?

    When I got back into Audio I was going to build a budget system around a pair of Snell speakers I bought in 1993, this included a turn table - the budget was blown and no turntable.

    I now want to add a simple vinyl system, despite wanting Brinkmann, betting on my foundation will give a serious contribution in sound quality, and I am not going over the top, I canít and wonít!

    Right now I am interested in Clear Audio top of the line Concept and their balanced Phono Stage, for less then $5000 unless anyone else has a suggestion in this league.


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    Re: Why no turntable?

    Quote Originally Posted by UltraFast69 View Post
    When I got back into Audio I was going to build a budget system around a pair of Snell speakers I bought in 1993, this included a turn table - the budget was blown and no turntable.

    I now want to add a simple vinyl system betting on my foundation will make up the difference, and not going over the top, canít and wonít!

    I am interested in Clear Audio Concept and their balanced Phono Stage, for less then $5000.


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    Re: Why no turntable?

    Personally, I wouldn't be happy if all I had was a single source to play music in my system.
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    Re: Why no turntable?

    unpopular opinion, but I feel digital is much better at the lower levels.

    the analog investment for vinyl is high for playback as well as media. that said, analog re-masters on a good TT setup are the cat's meow and make it worth the effort. i have a half mastered Everything but the Girl album in transit that will never be on digital.
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    Re: Why no turntable?

    Vinyl lover

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    Re: Why no turntable?

    timely thread...

    two years ago i began building + remaking my system. at the time i chose to only focus on digital as a source, leaving the decision on analog to a later date. well, i am close to being finished which, therefore, puts me back at the point where i can consider adding analog as a source.

    i would really, really love to add analog but i would be starting from zero... i have no LP library and do not have much experience in "hi-end" analog. also, for all the reasons you list, i ask myself if it is really worth it. more importantly though, would i be able create an analog source that i am as happy with as i am my digital source?

    the extra effort, care + feeding, etc. would be totally worth it for me... IF i knew i could end up with an analog source that is at least as good as my digital source. problem is, i don't really know where to start and that makes it seem like a process of trial and error... and iterating through components to get to that point is probably inefficient / expensive.

    so from your perspective mike, there is probably a lot of product education that could be done, even for folks like me who grew up when vinyl was king. anything that would make it easier and give more confidence in the end result would, i think, induce more people jump into the pool... the last thing i would want to do is spend multiples of what my digital source cost to not end up with something i was happy with.
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    Re: Why no turntable?

    As much as I enjoy my digital CD and Streaming setup, I do like the physical media of an album that I can play with.

    I predict my usage will be

    Streaming/NAS - 80%
    CD - 5% - 10%
    Turntable 15% - 20%


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    Why no turntable?

    Quote Originally Posted by aKnyght View Post
    timely thread...

    two years ago i began building + remaking my system. at the time i chose to only focus on digital as a source, leaving the decision on analog to a later date. well, i am close to being finished which, therefore, puts me back at the point where i can consider adding analog as a source.

    i would really, really love to add analog but i would be starting from zero... i have no LP library and do not have much experience in "hi-end" analog. also, for all the reasons you list, i ask myself if it is really worth it. more importantly though, would i be able create an analog source that i am as happy with as i am my digital source?

    the extra effort, care + feeding, etc. would be totally worth it for me... IF i knew i could end up with an analog source that is at least as good as my digital source. problem is, i don't really know where to start and that makes it seem like a process of trial and error... and iterating through components to get to that point is probably inefficient / expensive.

    so from your perspective mike, there is probably a lot of product education that could be done, even for folks like me who grew up when vinyl was king. anything that would make it easier and give more confidence in the end result would, i think, induce more people jump into the pool... the last thing i would want to do is spend multiples of what my digital source cost to not end up with something i was happy with.
    Well, there is a great collective of expertise here on Audioshark. What I always start with is a budget. You will want:

    - a turntable
    - tonearm
    - cartridge
    - Phonostage
    - (maybe) turntable cable (some TTís come with cables)
    - AudioQuest record cleaning brush (cheap and good!)
    - record cleaning machine

    It isnít really an arduous task. Travel over to Acoustic Sounds and pick 10 of your favorite albums. Thatís it. Start with 10. Pink Floyd DSOTM perhaps? Fleetwood Mac Rumors perhaps? Or maybe youíre into classical or jazz? If jazz, the Music Matters Blue Noteís are amazing. Mobile Fidelity also has some wonderful albums.


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